is he in programming/it support/network?

Everyone seem like working in the local company or one leg kick in that company.
Mostly those boss know nothing in IT.
I have the same experience last time, so that I can understand.
The only solution is:
Jump to another company which will appriciate your work.
Do not suffocated by those boss.
Then only you will find the interest behind the IT related job

Erm, now i know actually there are so many ppl have same "nasib" like me...anyway, guess i will leave when i finish learn all the necessary skill....thanks guys

yes. learn, improve, then leave. that's my plan anyhow. 2 more years.

im in the same boat i think..
It is because only IT people know what they're doing.. This is the main point i believe..

It depends, you might end up as a contract staff rather then being a permanent staff if you read the other posts here whereby some people are only offered contractual positions at Shell.

wow..i just started my degree...and hearing stories from you guys...feels kinda depressing and wonder if i picked the right course or not...

I have the same idea when I still with that company.
After I jump, I only regret I should jump earlier.
Sometime those experience that you have learn from that kind of company can't really apply to reality.

Quoted for truth (in my experience).

He does all three but at his work, he is mainly support. He is good with programming also but networking, not so much I guess - nobody is perfect afterall.

Even if you are contractual, you can still be a permanent staff if you pass their assessment. My friend got in as permanent after his first try. But most that I know starts as contractual > permanent.

This post has been edited by Pennywise: Nov 1 2006, 10:49 AM

But the truth is, ALL companies need IT! Because there are so many dump/idiot people around who know next to nothing about the PC. The demand is there, the next thing to do is depends on what smart ways you can have to eat that piece of pie.

All companies need Accountants also what... A lot of people knows no shit about IT. Some people can even brag when they only know a little about MCSE and CCNA and all the other buyable professional certifications.

When it comes to working, it all boils down to how you handle situation and how you deal with people.

Quoted for truth.

I feel u all...

I see thing... They are all over the place... I see stupid users...

The doctor I went to said I was too much stress, depress, easily irritated. I need to be more relax and take things easy... The thing I saw was my imagination... They didn't believe me nor able to help me...

But finally I met this guy & he believe my story & solve my problem... That's only one cure for this... Beeeer... Hmmm....

But if you check most companies, the IT portion of the company is always the COST part of the company, it doesn't bring the company any amount of money but it tends to help streamline some of the other businesses around as well as save the company on cost. No matter what, it is still a cost thus not all companies are willing to spend big bucks on it only the bigger MNCs who do realise the potential of a powerful IT arm to help streamline business processes and reduce operational costs.

for non IT company, of course their IT dept is a non profit dept. their role just like a support for the company.

So, IT dept of non IT company is playing a similar role of the cleaning department or estate dept(handyman) as well. Support support support, and make the staff happier and works faster.

We are barely a bunch of high tech high paid(in HR prospective) slaves. Which is far from high paid.

Basically yes, IT dept or IT personnel on non-IT company are just supporting roles. How should I put this? Supporting roles are important too. Without you, they'd die as well.

Its like how you play an online game. Example: Ragnarok Online. Do you think a Knight can tank Osiris without his Priest friend? Impossible, right? Well, just look at it that way and you can see the pict.

same here also, i feel jz like a fool and sad in my company cz :

1. my basis RM 1350, my job function as technician, but beside IT technical support, i have to handle:
a. server administration and security system
b. mail server, user email transaction monitoring
c. give IT training for boss / end user
d. IT hardware and software asset audit
e. company website design and website visit counter monitoring
f. networking
g. 5 companies IT facilities monitoring (1 headquarter, 4 subsidiaries), but my salary paid by headquarter only.
h. security system, CCTV, door access, guard alarm
i. telephone system
j. call cost saving monitoring, bill statement checking
k. color printing, scanning.
l. maintenance job like wiring/cabling, repair photostat machine, repair air cond, repair telephone, repair printer, repair flouresent light
...... and many more, can say that my job function is BSBH.

2. some stupid end user
a. who always show off, act as know all of IT knowledge, so they no need IT people help.
b. who keep on challenging my skills and post since they assume they know very well in IT field.
c. when thing goes wrong, some stupid end user also denied that they never did anything wrong.

3. my stupid boss who doesn't understand IT:
a. assume IT as nothing but wasting resources and money.
b. doesn't approve my request to hire 1 more assistant since i'm the only one handle in IT DEPT and have to handle 5 companies IT facilities.
c. always ask repeated question althought i answered it before, somehow they also ask a lot of nonsence question and task.
d. always give insufficient time for any difficult task, they think IT people is easily handle.
e. when they need help or you help them settle their IT problem, they will praised you, once they no need any help, they see you jz like s***.

really feel upset...........

This post has been edited by hunterseek: Nov 2 2006, 10:18 AM

True. If they are so great, they dont need support in the first place. But they hired IT personnel anyway.