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post Dec 3 2015, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Dec 3 2015, 08:25 PM)
Is there such a thing as Christian culture?
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Yes there is, unfortunately. Can be good or bad in some sense.
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post Dec 3 2015, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Dec 3 2015, 09:38 PM)
How are you able dictate what exactly is a person should be when you know nothing of the life that each of them individually goes through?

Like I said, it's NOT a pretentious thing simply because it did not fit your worldview of how things should be. That's called stereotyping, and you're doing exactly that, because you think that people are being pretentious if they do not ACT in the way they're supposed to be, when in fact you can't possibly tell what's really going on in each of their lives.

And while both Eastern and Western cultures are good, it is absolutely UP TO THEM to choose how to live their lives, even if they have chose to discard the culture that they are born with. By who's authority, and by which law in stone, that you can say that such an endeavor is wrong in the first place?

It's more than just being influenced globally. It's CHOICE. And if you think choice = pretentious, then you are obviously stereotyping them, because the only times when they're not being "pretentious" is when they fit your own world view of which culture they're supposed to behave accordingly.

If you do not like stereotyping, then no matter how westernized or easternized a person is, it should not even matter. Why not get to know them personally uniquely as an individual rather than trying to put them into stereotypical boxes, i.e. "Oooh, you're Chinese, why are you acting westernized?"

So live life your own way. If you don't want others to peg you, or stereotype you accordingly, then it's only fair that you also do not stereotype others. There's simply no rule or law in the universe that says a person cannot be westernized nor easternized, and calling them pretentious is merely because they did not fit into your worldview of how things should be.

Nothing's wrong, if one has too much of either culture, east or west. We're human beings at the end of the day, aren't we? Why would it be considered be pretending for embracing something belonged to all human beings? At the end of the day, stop stereotyping. Each person is unique, and he or she can be both east and west, all east, and all west if he or she chooses to be. No such thing as being pretentious here, because each of them are unique, so it shouldn't matter what their origins are.
This is also called stereotyping, because you can only accept and expect people who are raised in a Western country to be westernized. What happens when one of them wishes to go to China and decided to adopt their culture? There are plenty of them who are currently doing this. In all fairness, they should be allowed to do so. Similarly, those who are raised in the East should also be allowed to be westernized if they so choose to be.

Remember. It's choice. And you have no right to fault a person's choice by calling them pretentious. That's just stereotyping.
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In the context of my friends, of course I know their life. I just tell them subtly. We just laughed about it. No hard feelings.

On a broader horizon, I cannot change the way people behave. Duh..

How can it not be pretentious? But I'm not stereotyping.

Its pretentious in a sense when they talk funny, which is not their own original way of communication. What's wrong with communicating with your own natural style?

Stereotyping and racial profiling cannot stop, and it does not mean that I support both. Of course I do not agree with mainstream media.

When you see advertisements, for certain products, they used certain "models." Yes?

Same goes with Hollywood movies, you see certain characters being protrayed by certain ethnic race?

Example, Germans are always protrayed as villains in Hollywood movies. vmad.gif vmad.gif

I'm just saying do not forsake one own culture just to feel "modern" or whatever.

I keep it real yo. tongue.gif

QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 3 2015, 09:46 PM)
Yes there is, unfortunately. Can be good or bad in some sense.
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Example?
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post Dec 3 2015, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Dec 3 2015, 10:13 PM)
I'm just saying do not forsake one own culture just to feel "modern" or whatever.

I keep it real yo.  tongue.gif

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People are not born being prisoners to their culture in the first place. Why would they be forsaking their own culture if they have decided what's best in their lives?

And how do you know people aren't keeping it real? Do you think of that because they're not keeping it as real as you do?

That's stereotyping.

As for the communication, it is understandable how there are those who have decided to emulate the way how other cultures speak, but this does not means that they're being pretentious. They just like to do it that way. Who's to say that you are only allowed to communicate only in the same way as your ancestors have communicating?

Take me for example. I am absolutely fascinated by the British accent, and there are times I speak like that. But why would I be pretending for showing a genuine interest in the language and accent itself? With that in mind, it is understandable that one may not sound as natural as you think they are, because they've probably only started not too long adopting a specific culture. But why would you be the one stopping them from living the lives they want to, just because you think they aren't being "natural"?

The main point here being is that you should be less concerned how people aren't "natural". None of us are, as we live our everyday lives, shaped by our everyday experiences, and living completely different lives everyday, and possibly learning how to change as we experience new things along. There's no need to keep tabs on the "natural", if you know you can at least be friends with them, because they're sincere friendfs.

Otherwise, why would anyone be friends with someone who is so judgemental of their origins to the extent of calling them pretentious?

Stop stereotyping, and repeat the mantra as much as possible as needed.

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Dec 3 2015, 02:26 PM)
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Whoa, this is the first time I've heard about the symbolic significance of forbidden food.

Most of the time I hear it's because they're unsanitary. Which is true: those food sources are dangerous to be eaten especially in those times. Wild non-cud chewing animals can have pretty bad parasites. Mollusks are filters and the water quality of accessible places, really kotor. Frogs and other amphibians may eat toxic insects.

Carrion eaters, 'nuff said. They're the DBKL of nature. Sure a health hazard.
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post Dec 3 2015, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Dec 3 2015, 10:38 PM)
People are not born being prisoners to their culture in the first place. Why would they be forsaking their own culture if they have decided what's best in their lives?

And how do you know people aren't keeping it real? Do you think of that because they're not keeping it as real as you do?

That's stereotyping.

As for the communication, it is understandable how there are those who have decided to emulate the way how other cultures speak, but this does not means that they're being pretentious. They just like to do it that way. Who's to say that you are only allowed to communicate only in the same way as your ancestors have communicating?

Take me for example. I am absolutely fascinated by the British accent, and there are times I speak like that. But why would I be pretending for showing a genuine interest in the language and accent itself? With that in mind, it is understandable that one may not sound as natural as you think they are, because they've probably only started not too long adopting a specific culture. But why would you be the one stopping them from living the lives they want to, just because you think they aren't being "natural"?

The main point here being is that you should be less concerned how people aren't "natural". None of us are, as we live our everyday lives, shaped by our everyday experiences, and living completely different lives everyday, and possibly learning how to change as we experience new things along. There's no need to keep tabs on the "natural", if you know you can at least be friends with them, because they're sincere friendfs.

Otherwise, why would anyone be friends with someone who is so judgemental of their origins to the extent of calling them pretentious?

Stop stereotyping, and repeat the mantra as much as possible as needed.
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You mean like copying other culture? Yeah that's assimilation right? hehe..

Remember, I'm talking in context of my friends here. I'm not bothered about other people.

I know they don't keep it real. I keep it real.

That's not stereotyping. tongue.gif

You mean if I talk like Chinese with a Chinese accent, people don't find it funny? blink.gif

Why would I do that?

Ah those bloody British, our long lost cousins. They are full of bollocks you know. hehe..

Why you still think I want to "stop" them? Hast du ein wahn oder was?

Yeah of course they are sincere friends, we have our disagreement from time to time (due to football matters), but they are still my friends. hehe...

I told them they are pretentious, they know it. They told me, "Bugger off you German @#!" Of course I laughed because the accent sounds so funny. We all laughed about it.

Please, I don't stereotype. I think you are mistaken.


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Its friday...

May God bless everyone...Have a smooth day
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post Dec 4 2015, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Dec 3 2015, 10:43 PM)
Whoa, this is the first time I've heard about the symbolic significance of forbidden food.

Most of the time I hear it's because they're unsanitary. Which is true: those food sources are dangerous to be eaten especially in those times. Wild non-cud chewing animals can have pretty bad parasites. Mollusks are filters and the water quality of accessible places, really kotor. Frogs and other amphibians may eat toxic insects.

Carrion eaters, 'nuff said. They're the DBKL of nature. Sure a health hazard.
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I agree with Pehkay, it is symbolic but it may also not be the reason of hygiene...though of course this is how we concluded though not recorded in the Bible as the reason.

Do you remember, there's a story of where God send Ravens to Feed the Prophet Elijah? (1 Kings 17:6)

How clean is that? I mean bread in the mouth of Raven and pass on to Human mouth? And Yet God fed Elijah that way. as Far as I understand birds, they have very viscous saliva.

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post Dec 4 2015, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(cute_miao @ Dec 4 2015, 07:19 AM)
Its friday...

May God bless everyone...Have a smooth day
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Wsup Dude.

So early in the morning to post this?

you're student or working?

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post Dec 4 2015, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Dec 3 2015, 10:13 PM)
Example?
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I collectively lump in Church culture and Church tradition to be almost the same thing.

For example, some Christians refuse to worship God in a building that doesn't look like a Church.

or that

Christian must have a certain kind of look and clothing or should only listen to hymns, modern contemporary are the works of the devil. rolleyes.gif
Because of Church traditions and culture, some Christians are willing to go as far as calling Hillsong Worship as the Babylonian Whore.
And this coming from Christians.

I know there's a American Chinese Pastor who wear Flip Flop on purpose and preach every Sunday just to prove this point.


The Problem with this is that it Hinders the Spirit of God to reach out to the Lost.


I'm willing to bet with you, if a Prostitute with Low Mini Skirt walks into a Tradition Church, All Eyes would be open wide in contempt and the feeling of uncomfortable and first reaction is to escort her out to stop from distracting Sunday Service when the Church SHOULD BE reaching out to them.

I seriously feel the Catholics and Some Protestant Church have this self righteous problem.

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Dec 3 2015, 08:25 PM)

Sadly my willpower is limited thus I don't dare to play games often unless I'm stress or got nothing to do.

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To each their own, like they said 'prevention is better than cure'

QUOTE(tinarhian @ Dec 3 2015, 08:31 PM)
But the Jews does not eat pork because they still follow the Old Testaments. Sheesh...
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Yeah, they follow their Kosher diet seriously even when it comes to wine which they make it themselves.

I have not personally encountered or have Jewish friends so I based this on what I learned in college and facts.
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Dec 3 2015, 11:18 PM)
You mean like copying other culture? Yeah that's assimilation right? hehe..

Remember, I'm talking in context of my friends here. I'm not bothered about other people.

I know they don't keep it real. I keep it real.

That's not stereotyping.  tongue.gif

You mean if I talk like Chinese with a Chinese accent, people don't find it funny?  blink.gif

Why would I do that?

Ah those bloody British, our long lost cousins. They are full of bollocks you know. hehe..

Why you still think I want to "stop" them? Hast du ein wahn oder was?

Yeah of course they are sincere friends, we have our disagreement from time to time (due to football matters), but they are still my friends. hehe...

I told them they are pretentious, they know it. They told me, "Bugger off you German @#!" Of course I laughed because the accent sounds so funny. We all laughed about it.

Please, I don't stereotype. I think you are mistaken.
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I wouldn't comment further on your friends, because they're yours not mine. Just don't be harsh on them, because if they want to be assimilated, that's fine, it's not wrong.

If you fascinated with a specific accent, why not? It is normal when people find it objectively weird at first, but why would it be pretentious if yo love that accent and wishes to speak it? Is there a law or rule in stone that says you're not allowed to?

And if you have read my points carefully, it is common to feel fake at first because you're either new to the accent or language, but if you love saying it, pretentious isn't really the word if all you do are stopping people from doing what they love to do.

It's fake not because one doesn't keep it real. It's because people cannot accept that a person is capable of speaking many different accents and languages at the same time.

If anyone kept it real, it is your friends who can speak more than 1 languages, and including those who can speak in more than 1 accent.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 4 2015, 09:12 AM)
Wsup Dude.

So early in the morning to post this?

you're student or working?
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You jelly? WAke up early to have a morning prayer for every1
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post Dec 4 2015, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(cute_miao @ Dec 4 2015, 01:01 PM)
You jelly? WAke up early to have a morning prayer for every1
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Yea in a way jelly, I use to have that sort of time..Now I just pray every morning in my car while driving.
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I just wana to have a peace prayer btwn god n me..tats wai wake early daily

I dun drv.....makes me more frust n nearer to the satan
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QUOTE(cute_miao @ Dec 4 2015, 01:20 PM)
I just wana to have a peace prayer btwn god n me..tats wai wake early daily

I dun drv.....makes me more frust n nearer to the satan
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no no...that's something good. Dun worry about it.

Not many Christians that I know of does that nowadays..



Waking Early to Pray is very powerful.



Yea about driving...every Christians have that challenge.

I think malaysian in general can bcome monsters behind the wheel at times.
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But in kopitiam tered, im devil..lolx
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QUOTE(cute_miao @ Dec 4 2015, 01:29 PM)
But in kopitiam tered, im devil..lolx
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If God can give you the strength not to be a "devil"

Will you welcome that?


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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 4 2015, 01:44 PM)
If God can give you the strength not to be a "devil"

Will you welcome that?
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Lolx....

Its only a thread in a forum. Dont think that will commit sin..
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QUOTE(cute_miao @ Dec 4 2015, 01:44 PM)
Lolx....

Its only a thread in a forum. Dont think that will commit sin..
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The Christian life is not so much about Law..what you can do or cannot do that will commit sin.

It has to do with how you threat people. I mean Jesus was very concern on that.

In real life or forum is the same.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 4 2015, 01:51 PM)
The Christian life is not so much about Law..what you can do or cannot do that will commit sin.

It has to do with how you threat people. I mean Jesus was very concern on that.

In real life or forum is the same.
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Strt to regret n repent soon...cz i always say nearlee pandan

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