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Investment Bandar Rimbayu V4, The Township Nature Perfected, Green Township by IJM Land

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post Nov 11 2015, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(phonixloo @ Nov 11 2015, 06:51 PM)
biggrin.gif  Perennia already VP......

blush.gif  This is the condition.  Market very competitive.  Some owner throw in aircond, auto gate, kitchen cabinet to attract tenant.
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So total Chimes & Perenia 1000+ units! blink.gif If half renting their units then how la to get good rental? blush.gif Got to top up a lot leh or treat it as weekend home! biggrin.gif
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post Nov 12 2015, 02:55 AM

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QUOTE(BRE @ Nov 11 2015, 06:13 PM)
So total Chimes & Perenia 1000+ units! blink.gif If half renting their units then how la to get good rental? blush.gif  Got to top up a lot leh or treat it as weekend home! biggrin.gif
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I understand Chimes and Perennia a lot of investors. But I dont think all these investors are looking for rental as their prime investment target. Majority should be flip bfore hold to flip in the short term or longer term, some may consider rent out if they keep in long term, bcz it requires some 20-30k reno or touch up. That is a cost to set up a rental investment. Btw, Thats quite common for new landed township if we see occupancy is slow and many flippings, it impacted by the current market situation.

It needed time to justify. Some ppl plan to move in, but they rather aware if their neighbours are moving in at the same time.

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post Nov 12 2015, 03:03 AM

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QUOTE(BRE @ Nov 11 2015, 05:31 PM)
Yah, got to have strong holding power, I think nt less than 5 years to get good ROI.

I heard now Chimes cannot sell with good price in the subsale market, 1 of the reason is because buyers are waiting for Penduline? blush.gif
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Its because "timing", market conditions and grace period for the township to mature. Occupancy just starting, not yet reach the stage of filling in.

SEH, EM and all new major townships be the same. Guess PH also not booming in 2 yrs time but it took more than 10 years.

Btw, I predict its not because of Penduline.
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post Nov 12 2015, 06:35 AM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Nov 12 2015, 03:03 AM)
Its because "timing", market conditions and grace period for the township to mature. Occupancy just starting, not yet reach the stage of filling in.

SEH, EM and all new major townships be the same. Guess PH also not booming in 2 yrs time but it took more than 10 years.

Btw, I predict its not because of Penduline.
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Well say boss. I agreed is "timing". Now property going into winter, all new township facing hard time to rent out, not only Chimes. Hopefully can get good ROI in years 2017 smile.gif
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post Nov 12 2015, 07:10 AM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Nov 12 2015, 04:03 AM)
Its because "timing", market conditions and grace period for the township to mature. Occupancy just starting, not yet reach the stage of filling in.

SEH, EM and all new major townships be the same. Guess PH also not booming in 2 yrs time but it took more than 10 years.

Btw, I predict its not because of Penduline.
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Yes bro, PH now oredi 15 years old so more or less quite matured oredi. Why do you predict is is not because of Penduline bro? During slow prop market time, ppl tend to look for lower valued prop to buy so I guess some potential subsale market buyer may be swayed to buy Penduline instead.
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Nov 12 2015, 03:55 AM)
I understand Chimes and Perennia a lot of investors. But I dont think all these investors are looking for rental as their prime investment target. Majority should be flip bfore hold to flip in the short term or longer term, some may consider rent out if they keep in long term, bcz it requires some 20-30k reno or touch up. That is a cost to set up a rental investment. Btw, Thats quite common for new landed township if we see occupancy is slow and many flippings, it impacted by the current market situation.

It needed time to justify. Some ppl plan to move in, but they rather aware if their neighbours are moving in at the same time.
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I think it is quite normal for the first 2 phases in new townships to be filled with investors as they would not want to stay in new townships that lack the amenities and facilities.
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QUOTE(BRE @ Nov 12 2015, 07:13 AM)
I think it is quite normal for the first 2 phases in new townships to be filled with investors as they would not want to stay in new townships that lack the amenities and facilities.
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New township if wait for 5-7 years, capital gain shd be very good smile.gif
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I think it is more worthy to buy DSH at this price compared to Semenyih
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Nov 12 2015, 09:21 AM)
New township if wait for 5-7 years, capital gain shd be very good smile.gif
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Yes bro, min 5-7 years should be good enough for the township to mature, then the ROI will be thumbup.gif

U didnt sapu any unit in BR bro? This one oso South Selangor ma! nod.gif
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post Nov 12 2015, 09:47 AM

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with loan installment around RM2500-3000 for chimes.

who are you targeting for rental? what is the rental profile?

isn't it high for this area? bandar saujana putra is much cheaper to rent.

worst, rent out at RM1500 and top up?
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QUOTE(halo5 @ Nov 12 2015, 09:47 AM)
with loan installment around RM2500-3000 for chimes.

who are you targeting for rental? what is the rental profile?

isn't it high for this area? bandar saujana putra is much cheaper to rent.

worst, rent out at RM1500 and top up?
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I think normally bought landed investor, basically they are waiting for appreciation not actually rental yield.
So maybe they will hold long term, so in mid way can collect rental.
Not sure there can rent how much there.
But like kemuning utama, if now bought subsales RM800k++, installment around RM3500. But rental is around RM2000-RM2200.
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QUOTE(halo5 @ Nov 12 2015, 09:47 AM)
with loan installment around RM2500-3000 for chimes.

who are you targeting for rental? what is the rental profile?

isn't it high for this area? bandar saujana putra is much cheaper to rent.

worst, rent out at RM1500 and top up?
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Wise investor dont foresee to rent it out as this is a brand new township, in case renting then rental will be low no doubt.

If one is targeting high and fast return, stock market or forex he should go instead of property, high risk cum high return but it is a double sided blade.
property era has gone, current trend is slow but steady, worst case for good return is to wait a longer time, which mean holding power is the key.
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QUOTE(eastken @ Nov 12 2015, 10:02 AM)
I think normally bought landed investor, basically they are waiting for appreciation not actually rental yield.
So maybe they will hold long term, so in mid way can collect rental.
Not sure there can rent how much there.
But like kemuning utama, if now bought subsales RM800k++, installment around RM3500. But rental is around RM2000-RM2200.
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2k rental that good ? Corner unit ?
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post Nov 12 2015, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(wong8981 @ Nov 12 2015, 10:08 AM)
2k rental that good ? Corner unit ?
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Sometimes i saw people post for Rent at that area intermediate unit, around this range with partial furnished.
But i got friend rent out his unit RM1500 3-4 years back. few months back, heard him said people rent out RM1800, no furnish.
Kemuning apartment there with sf700++, my friend rent out RM950.
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post Nov 12 2015, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(eastken @ Nov 12 2015, 10:25 AM)
Sometimes i saw people post for Rent at that area intermediate unit, around this range with partial furnished.
But i got friend rent out his unit RM1500 3-4 years back. few months back, heard him said people rent out RM1800, no furnish.
Kemuning apartment there with sf700++, my friend rent out RM950.
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Rental at Rimbayu will be lower then Kemuning in the initial years. I don't think landed houses in Rimbayu can fetch a higher rental than Kemuning.

Investors better be ready for negative cash flow for the first few years assuming that they can find a tenant for their unit. There will be easily hundred of units available in the rental market, so competition will be stiff....

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post Nov 12 2015, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(LDP @ Nov 12 2015, 10:38 AM)
Rental at Rimbayu will be lower then Kemuning in the initial years. I don't think landed houses in Rimbayu can fetch a higher rental than Kemuning.

Investors better be ready for negative cash flow for the first few years assuming that they can find a tenant for their unit. There will be easily hundred of units available in the rental market, so competition will be stiff....
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Yes, agree. still new there, confirm is very low for these few years.
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Frankly speaking, I think IJM is rushing..as its approaching end of the year. Next year the market should be bad or spooky...so I think they want to sell whatever they can before end of the year holiday...:-)
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QUOTE(LDP @ Nov 12 2015, 11:38 AM)
Rental at Rimbayu will be lower then Kemuning in the initial years. I don't think landed houses in Rimbayu can fetch a higher rental than Kemuning.

Investors better be ready for negative cash flow for the first few years assuming that they can find a tenant for their unit. There will be easily hundred of units available in the rental market, so competition will be stiff....
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Yes, more than 1000+ Chimes & Perenia in the market now, difficult to get good rental some more got to compete with existing props in KK, Tiger Hill & KU - oversupply of landed props for rental in that area now? blink.gif
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QUOTE(LDP @ Nov 12 2015, 10:44 AM)
Frankly speaking, I think IJM is rushing..as its approaching end of the year. Next year the market should be bad or spooky...so I think they want to sell whatever they can before end of the year holiday...:-)
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I dun think this is the reason, this is actually under their masterplan too. Their style, always half a year new launch, from phase 1 until now.
Even their service apartment also delay around 6 months to launch.
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QUOTE(eastken @ Nov 12 2015, 11:45 AM)
I dun think this is the reason, this is actually under their masterplan too. Their style, always half a year new launch, from phase 1 until now.
Even their service apartment also delay around 6 months to launch.
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Then how come the brochure and other marketing material for this launch is not available yet ?

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