Please don't get work up. It is a fact that stock Iswara 1.3 manual cannot achieve 180 km/h in reality. If still don't believe, ask your friends/relatives (with actual technical & cars knowledge) or even google. If still not convinced, try to ask your friends/relatives to try out top speed together, so you can get benchmark results. I trust your posted picture is real but as I said before, your speedometer is faulty or out of calibration.

My current stock Iswara is 1.5i (pre-installed fuel injection kit by Proton, only available to limited units in the year 2000) automatic but is for sure 170 km/h is achievable and the speed verified with my friend driving a Waja following behind.

Regarding the brochure, I'm not sure about it but car manufacturers won't bullshit (even if they do, they will state a higher top speed than actual, rather than lower) on their top speed as they tested their cars in ideal conditions.

Wah, the speed our friend generalwh did on his camry is really quick... Obviously u were going to the airport to pick someone up lah, unless u were a bit late and had to rush eh?

so i can take your case and apply it then... i chase down a waja at that speed, over took him and he try to tail gate me but i am pulling away albeit very slowly...


so u are trying to tell me the waja max is 160 then ?

ps: cut the long story short..... wanna ride in that car so that i can show you? this time i will hit 190 so that what ever doubt about 10% error will be solved...
technical skills eh.... come on, practical and theory is 2 different thing... car manufactures calculate the top speed mostly based on theory...

This post has been edited by kcng: Oct 31 2006, 09:37 AM

i think last time my Kelisa 850 manual reached 160km/h.

You won't get accurate results by doing so with someone you don't know on the road as you won't know whether that person is driving at maximum speed or not. Try it out with someone you know, so you can have a much more accurate benchmark result.

I'm not sure about the real top speed for Waja manual but should be higher than my Iswara 1.5i auto. My friend claimed it is capable of over 190 km/h. That time I asked my friend (driving Waja manual) to purposely follow behind to gauge my top speed, so I can get an accurate benchmark result.

If you had a chance ever visit a car research & development plant, you will know that they do try out their top speed in practical not theory. In overseas (not sure about Proton though), the car manufacturers will even test top speed of their cars on an ideal condition speed circuit.

And yea, I would like to ride on your car to see it touches the limit of 180 km/h & how's the speedometer condition. Personally I had not driven an Iswara (1.3 manual & 1.5i auto) capable of reaching 180 km/h on the speedometer (disregard its faultiness & out of calibration), so it is a good experience for me.

This post has been edited by ben83: Oct 31 2006, 10:08 AM

i'm using AHM chamber currently...quite good actually...with matching injector/minjet size+sprocket size can reach 160-170kmh...the only drawback is u got 2T leftover splattering over ur no. plate but previously i was using a custom-made chamber...bought at 1 wokshop that participate in the cub prix....bought it for rm160 per pc...topspeed: finish the speedometer but no matter what kind of exhaust u use certainly need a good tuner lah...

a modded rgv can easily reach 190kmh!!
the reason why yamaha detuned the engine bcoz 125z chassis is very2 light!

pictures please.....

nope they did not do it on any circuit... in fact they do it on highway....ofcoz driven by expect for testing cars..... coz i know a case where this is read scenario... how they test a car and top speed is they run on highway... from tanjung malim plant to kl den back.... and he was testing gen2... in the website stated top speed of 195 but the tester flat out the speedo meter.... ofcoz they put 195km/h in the net.. coz thats not the safe speed for u to travel... and pls dun follow the website detail so much k... maybe the kerbweight or others are truth but not all... btw.. what others car u driven b4 btw.... and yes waja can go up to 200 even with auto

ya..try post up some shots.
my cousin's modded EVO3 engine wira can reach 210-220km easily..but he say it's extreamly dangerous and ur eyes must pay 100% attention.LAst time his bonnet sudd FLIED up and broke the windscreen!!and his face was hurt and luckily everything still can be handled.
Too bad he sold his car to a Malay with only RM30k(full modded somemroe=.=)last year and got a FIAT Coupe.

Yes, that new saga really can do 180km/h. My fren's 2004 saga can do that speed as well but i have to admit it needs a long stretch of road to reach that....

Anyway, i dont see any of our members who own those monster rides to post their top speed here. hhmmm........

maybe its because he could not do it that is why he dont want to believe it...
so much for his technical knowledge eh....

i have a feeling that he will deny that gen 2 cannot go over 200 even with all the pictures posted here...

Well, i notice that the old iswara although using the same engine isnt that good for top speed and i'm surprise that the new saga can do 180km/h. I also noticed that the early batch of saga in 2004 has better performance and stiffer suspension. I notice the 1.3 is being matched with a factory 4-2-1 extractor. hhmmm.....

hahahaha....hmmm....
i am also wondering...

I know they do on highways too but what I said is that overseas car manufacturers do it on special circuit too in order to test the really maximum speed achievable by the car they manufactured.



As I said many times, it is a faulty & out of calibration speedometer. Another possibility as pointed out by gouki is the 4-2-1 extractor.

Another point is that I had raced with a few unknown Iswara/Saga 1.3 manual (Limited Edition & LMST) before on highways, none surpassed my Iswara 1.5i auto (peaked at 170 km/h). Whether these people are doing full speed or not, I'm not sure but none of these cars which tried to tailgate or race managed to smoke my car before. I need to contact any of my old friends whether they own any last batch of year 2004 Iswara/Saga 1.3 manual, so I can test & know the actual fact of the 4-2-1 extractor existence.

By the way I had not test driven a Gen2 before, therefore I cannot make any comments.



It comes with the 4-2-1? If it really do then the story is different. That thing used on my friend's Wira 1.5 manual & really exhausted his car's engine.

This post has been edited by ben83: Oct 31 2006, 01:41 PM

For what wanna post top speed here? to show off? Any car also can reach 180/200 km/h but my question here is how fast can u reach from 100 - 200 km/h?

Well, i was surprised too when i take a look at his engine bay. And the 1st batch of LMST saga in year 2004 has better performance and stiffer/firmer suspension. Batches after that seems aint that great anymore for a 1.3L car.

Well, i only know mine is definitely much slower than yours....

my car very slow only, max i go 120kmph.....

i'm waiting for a merc driver who comes in and tell he clock the speed at 280km/h..pwns all

1000cc bike can do 300, and we have a lot of those here. I think one forumer has an R1.

But the trouble is, how do you snap a picture while balancing your bike and staying out of wind's way at 300km/h?