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Investment SETIA ECOHILL (VERSION 13A) [Owner's Thread], An Inspiring Eco Township in Semenyih

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Jasoncat
post Jun 11 2015, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(cheryee @ Jun 11 2015, 01:47 PM)
Apply from SP or MPKJ?
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Should start from SPS/ JMB first, once ok then probably MPKJ depends on the reno whether requires local authority approval. Should this be the case TKJ?
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post Jun 11 2015, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Jun 11 2015, 01:51 PM)
Should start from SPS/ JMB first, once ok then probably MPKJ depends on the reno whether requires local authority approval. Should this be the case TKJ?
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It's MPKJ vs DMC with SPS = legally dun have a clear cut answer to this sweat.gif

Need to do some case law study then only will know what's the precedent like
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post Jun 11 2015, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(cheryee @ Jun 11 2015, 02:01 PM)
It's MPKJ vs DMC with SPS = legally dun have a clear cut answer to this  sweat.gif

Need to do some case law study then only will know what's the precedent like
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I think should follow MPKJ
If the sub sale buyer dun sign the DMC? hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Jun 11 2015, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(Rabel @ Jun 11 2015, 02:07 PM)
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I think should follow MPKJ
If the sub sale buyer dun sign the DMC? hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Legally speaking, 1st step = MPKJ, 2nd step = SPS but what if MPKJ consented but SPS rejected? Then have to go court lo ... so lawyer ada kerja buat tongue.gif

Before issuance of the individual title, the sub-sale purchaser is compelled by the developer to sign the DMC but upon issuance of the individual title, then the developer will not have such compelling power anymore. Hence, the sub-sale purchaser is actually at his own discretion to reno his property as long as consent is obtained from MPKJ sweat.gif
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post Jun 11 2015, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(cheryee @ Jun 11 2015, 02:38 PM)
Legally speaking, 1st step = MPKJ, 2nd step = SPS but what if MPKJ consented but SPS rejected? Then have to go court lo ... so lawyer ada kerja buat  tongue.gif

Before issuance of the individual title, the sub-sale purchaser is compelled by the developer to sign the DMC but upon issuance of the individual title, then the developer will not have such compelling power anymore. Hence, the sub-sale purchaser is actually at his own discretion to reno his property as long as consent is obtained from MPKJ  sweat.gif
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very true, grey area if DMC not signed.
But I did asked SA before. He/She (Don't even rmb the person lol) said need submit to SPS for approval, then they will submit to MPKJ to obtain approval on behalf.

That was 2 years ago, not sure if things change.

Definitely a question to ask during the briefing.

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QUOTE(robert82 @ Jun 11 2015, 02:53 PM)
very true, grey area if DMC not signed.
But I did asked SA before. He/She (Don't even rmb the person lol) said need submit to SPS for approval, then they will submit to MPKJ to obtain approval on behalf.

That was 2 years ago, not sure if things change.

Definitely a question to ask during the briefing.
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If the project fully completed ? SPS Oredy hand over all the houses. Still need to submit to SPS for approval?
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post Jun 11 2015, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(Rabel @ Jun 11 2015, 02:55 PM)
If the project fully completed ? SPS Oredy hand over all the houses. Still need to submit to SPS for approval?
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That's what i said grey area.
Cause it is something I didn't thought about that time and didn't ask them.
Will need to raise this up.
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post Jun 11 2015, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(robert82 @ Jun 11 2015, 03:02 PM)
That's what i said grey area.
Cause it is something I didn't thought about that time and didn't ask them.
Will need to raise this up.
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IC. If I go there one day. I will try to ask oso.
By the way, I still think should be follow MPKJ coz DMC should not over right government regulation. Tak logic
But if government law over right DMC. sound more logic hmm.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Rabel @ Jun 11 2015, 02:55 PM)
If the project fully completed ? SPS Oredy hand over all the houses. Still need to submit to SPS for approval?
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Tak kira the project completed or not, the principal purchaser is bound by the DMC. Problem is sub-sale purchaser without DMC sweat.gif
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QUOTE(cheryee @ Jun 11 2015, 03:16 PM)
Tak kira the project completed or not, the principal purchaser is bound by the DMC. Problem is sub-sale purchaser without DMC  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Rabel @ Jun 11 2015, 03:12 PM)
IC. If I go there one day. I will try to ask oso.
By the way, I still think should be follow MPKJ coz DMC should not over right government regulation. Tak logic
But if government law over right DMC. sound more logic hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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True, DMC shall not overrule a local government's regulations but SPS (if they wanna wan yeh) can initiate a legal action on the purchaser for breach of covenants in the DMC sweat.gif
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is there a way where subsales can be prevented if DMC not signed?
There's quite a number of G&G with individual titles, I am sure there is a way they manage this.

Plus SPS experience from managing Eco Park should be handy.

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QUOTE(robert82 @ Jun 11 2015, 03:22 PM)
is there a way where subsales can be prevented if DMC not signed?
There's quite a number of G&G with individual titles, I am sure there is a way they manage this.

Plus SPS experience from managing Eco Park should be handy.
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1) Yes before issuance of individual title but no upon issuance of individual title

2) Have to ask ppl in SEP jor, really no idea doh.gif
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post Jun 11 2015, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(cheryee @ Jun 11 2015, 03:26 PM)
1) Yes before issuance of individual title but no upon issuance of individual title

2) Have to ask ppl in SEP jor, really no idea  doh.gif
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just write all the ambiguity down and bring to the briefing.
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QUOTE(robert82 @ Jun 11 2015, 03:34 PM)
just write all the ambiguity down and bring to the briefing.
Bring along popcorns smile.gif
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post Jun 11 2015, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(cheryee @ Jun 11 2015, 03:22 PM)
True, DMC shall not overrule a local government's regulations but SPS (if they wanna wan yeh) can initiate a legal action on the purchaser for breach of covenants in the DMC  sweat.gif
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At the end, lawyer make money tongue.gif tongue.gif
Can the purchaser claim the agreement is unfair since tis DMC oredy overrule government regulation?
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QUOTE(cheryee @ Jun 11 2015, 03:16 PM)
Tak kira the project completed or not, the principal purchaser is bound by the DMC. Problem is sub-sale purchaser without DMC  sweat.gif
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TKJ, what about a stratified G&G community which is governed under Schedule H - the DMC which is signed btw developer and original purchaser can bind the subsequent subsale purchasers or not?

Also, what about upon the time the JMC has already been formed and the developer no longer in the picture, the original DMC has any impact to the subsale purchasers?
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post Jun 11 2015, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(cheryee @ Jun 11 2015, 03:26 PM)
1) Yes before issuance of individual title but no upon issuance of individual title

2) Have to ask ppl in SEP jor, really no idea  doh.gif
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Regardless the DMC restriction, many houses in SEP have done exterior renovation. Some with major one.
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QUOTE(schowin @ Jun 11 2015, 03:49 PM)
Regardless the DMC restriction, many houses in SEP have done exterior renovation. Some with major one.
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SEP DMC got mention can not do exterior renovation?

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post Jun 11 2015, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(Rabel @ Jun 11 2015, 03:53 PM)
SEP DMC got mention can not do exterior renovation?
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Okay, only my assumption. I don't own one in SEP

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