My friend asked me to find her Sales Agent since her agent very good in fund recommendation. Is this sort of like upline and downline?
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Apr 17 2021, 03:23 PM
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My friend asked me to find her Sales Agent since her agent very good in fund recommendation. Is this sort of like upline and downline?
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Apr 17 2021, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(yiyan @ Apr 17 2021, 03:23 PM) My friend asked me to find her Sales Agent since her agent very good in fund recommendation. Is this sort of like upline and downline? i maybe wrong,...but i think it meant, your friend got a sales agent that had been very good in fund recommendation....and your friend wanted you to seek the service of that sales agent |
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Apr 17 2021, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(yiyan @ Apr 17 2021, 03:23 PM) My friend asked me to find her Sales Agent since her agent very good in fund recommendation. Is this sort of like upline and downline? U ask ur frien which fund she/he recommended that making profit? Since which year?I oso invest in public mutual, my agent recommended fund just a guide line for me, i do my own decision after read through all comments in this forum đ This post has been edited by ironman16: Apr 17 2021, 04:33 PM |
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Apr 18 2021, 12:14 AM
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Apr 18 2021, 12:43 AM
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QUOTE(jorgsacul @ Apr 18 2021, 12:14 AM) Looks like there are 1, 2, 3, 5 n 10 yrs range...2 images in that posting |
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Apr 19 2021, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Apr 17 2021, 11:45 AM) Yes. We are greedy. We want to max our return The local ut industry is regulated and the annual fees (both management and trustee) are pretty much standard across all fund companies.This is solely my perspective But at the same time we need to diversify our risk. So we allow some money to parked in these fund, especially the moment we start having kids and plan for their education that's where fixed income and managed portfolio kicks in. Most of the fund does promise in the brochure of protecting your savings for your next generations etc etc If you want to get rich, unit trust is not the way to go bro Back to the statement on a good cat and a good managed fund Fund A. Charge you a cumulative 2 percent per annum for managed and sales fees but you get 6 percent returns nett Fund B. Charge you a cumulative 1.6 percent per annum but you get 6.2 percent returns nett The difference is there and I would say... People will always compare woah fund A so ripped off. But if your purpose is to protect your savings... Can you say fund A is a lousy fund? The main point to take note of is "net returns". The performance reports are based on net returns. And the funds to invest in are short-listed and based on their past performance and returns. The annual fees should not be a consideration at all if the investor wishes to buy any ut funds. Talking about annual fees is just like talking about any profit gained by any business enterprise. Just like selecting which restaurant to have dinner, we don't care how much profit the cook makes. We may base the decision on the menu, price, and ambiance of the restaurant, but never the profit the restaurant makes. QUOTE(squarepilot @ Apr 17 2021, 02:19 PM) Generally. Those who opt for public mutual still prefer investment that still provide human touch. Their agent is willing to drive to your house or nearby cafe to review your investment with them. Of cause these comes with a higher fee. That may be 20 or 30 years ago... now it is online and the reason for this thread and forum. To share and learn how to do it on your own.People here who like to get best returns and know how to use Internet to manage their money via fund will probably buy through FSM If you are comfortable on your returns, you wouldn't have kira so much on their high sales charge. Just saying I buy also because of friends doing Public mutual. But I pick those riskier fund. Pay so high management fees of cause must go for high risk one đ This post has been edited by j.passing.by: Apr 19 2021, 07:01 PM erichor liked this post
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Apr 19 2021, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 16 2021, 09:58 AM) QUOTE(yiyan @ Apr 17 2021, 03:23 PM) My friend asked me to find her Sales Agent since her agent very good in fund recommendation. Is this sort of like upline and downline? You can learn to do it on your own.Try looking at the above post 2 pages back, where it has 2 attachments showing the past performances of all the funds in RHB for 1-year to 10-years. You can look up similar past performance of all funds in Public Mutual and other companies too. There are many funds, don't let it overwhelm you. You are not buying all the funds â only 3 to 5 equity funds. Just narrow down and shortlist the top 3 or 5 funds that are giving good and great returns based on the past performances in 1-yr, 3-yr, 5-yr and 10-yr periods; all the many other funds can be disregarded. Then make an investment plan to invest into the selected funds REGULARLY FOR AT LEAST 5 YEARS (preferably 10 years and more). The first purchase into any ut fund must be at least RM1,000. So the REGULARLY depends on your investment budget, it can be 1 month or maybe every 6 months or annually. I think the best would be 3 every months; which is also same as EPF-MIS scheme (Members Investment Scheme) into unit trust funds. erichor liked this post
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Apr 19 2021, 08:23 PM
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Refinitiv Lipper Fund Awards 2021: Public Mutual biggest winner with 34 awards
https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/publ...inner-34-awards Legitimate wins, or tooting own horn (read: 'paid to win' awards)? đ¤đ¤đ¤ This post has been edited by DragonReine: Apr 19 2021, 08:25 PM |
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Apr 19 2021, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Apr 19 2021, 08:23 PM) Refinitiv Lipper Fund Awards 2021: Public Mutual biggest winner with 34 awards https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/publ...inner-34-awards Legitimate wins, or tooting own horn (read: 'paid to win' awards)? đ¤đ¤đ¤ |
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Apr 21 2021, 09:52 PM
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Public e-Islamic Pioneer Entrepreneur 40 Fund (PeIPE40F) Minimum investment of only RM100 via Public Mutual Online. Invests in up to a maximum of 40 stocks in a portfolio primarily consisting of Shariah-compliant pioneer entrepreneur stocks^. Invests 75% to 98% of its net asset value (NAV) in Shariah-compliant equities globally. Initial Issue Price: RM0.25 per unit during the Offer Period (21 April to 11 May 2021) Sales charge = 3.75% Sectors of Focus for PeIPE40Fâs Equity Portfolio PeIPE40F may target to invest in Shariah-compliant stocks of founder-led companies listed on the global markets that offer attractive growth prospects and resilient earnings profiles within sectors such as technology and consumer as well as selected cyclical industries. https://www.publicmutual.com.my/Menu/Campai...unches/PeIPE40F https://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...8%3d&portalid=0 https://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...8%3d&portalid=0 https://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...c%3d&portalid=0 This post has been edited by ironman16: Apr 21 2021, 09:52 PM emkay_2020 liked this post
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Apr 22 2021, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Apr 21 2021, 09:52 PM) Public e-Islamic Pioneer Entrepreneur 40 Fund (PeIPE40F) Minimum investment of only RM100 via Public Mutual Online. Invests in up to a maximum of 40 stocks in a portfolio primarily consisting of Shariah-compliant pioneer entrepreneur stocks^. Invests 75% to 98% of its net asset value (NAV) in Shariah-compliant equities globally. Initial Issue Price: RM0.25 per unit during the Offer Period (21 April to 11 May 2021) Sales charge = 3.75% Sectors of Focus for PeIPE40Fâs Equity Portfolio PeIPE40F may target to invest in Shariah-compliant stocks of founder-led companies listed on the global markets that offer attractive growth prospects and resilient earnings profiles within sectors such as technology and consumer as well as selected cyclical industries. https://www.publicmutual.com.my/Menu/Campai...unches/PeIPE40F https://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...8%3d&portalid=0 https://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...8%3d&portalid=0 https://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...c%3d&portalid=0 |
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Apr 23 2021, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE(kakashial @ Apr 22 2021, 10:48 PM) i think is GLOBAL asset allocationthis fund invests to a maximum of 40 stocks in a portfolio primarily consisting of Shariah-compliant pioneer entrepreneur stocks / giant company (Tencent, FB, Google etc) up to 20% of the Fundâs net asset value (NAV) may be invested in other Shariah-compliant stocks listed on the global markets. >> i think it mean it can invest (max 20%) in the company not under pioneer entrepreneur stocks .... hope my understanding wont miss far from it.... This post has been edited by ironman16: Apr 23 2021, 01:26 PM |
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Apr 23 2021, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Apr 23 2021, 01:24 PM) i think is GLOBAL asset allocation Yes. This is what my agent told me. this fund invests to a maximum of 40 stocks in a portfolio primarily consisting of Shariah-compliant pioneer entrepreneur stocks / giant company (Tencent, FB, Google etc) up to 20% of the Fundâs net asset value (NAV) may be invested in other Shariah-compliant stocks listed on the global markets. >> i think it mean it can invest (max 20%) in the company not under pioneer entrepreneur stocks .... hope my understanding wont miss far from it.... No plan to buy yet. Sales charge 3.75% |
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Apr 23 2021, 09:20 PM
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Apr 24 2021, 01:17 AM
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Apr 24 2021, 08:29 AM
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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Apr 21 2021, 09:52 PM) Public e-Islamic Pioneer Entrepreneur 40 Fund (PeIPE40F) Minimum investment of only RM100 via Public Mutual Online. Invests in up to a maximum of 40 stocks in a portfolio primarily consisting of Shariah-compliant pioneer entrepreneur stocks^. Invests 75% to 98% of its net asset value (NAV) in Shariah-compliant equities globally. Initial Issue Price: RM0.25 per unit during the Offer Period (21 April to 11 May 2021) Sales charge = 3.75% Sectors of Focus for PeIPE40Fâs Equity Portfolio PeIPE40F may target to invest in Shariah-compliant stocks of founder-led companies listed on the global markets that offer attractive growth prospects and resilient earnings profiles within sectors such as technology and consumer as well as selected cyclical industries. https://www.publicmutual.com.my/Menu/Campai...unches/PeIPE40F https://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...8%3d&portalid=0 https://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...8%3d&portalid=0 https://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...c%3d&portalid=0 |
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Apr 24 2021, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE(izzudrecoba @ Apr 24 2021, 08:29 AM) If managed to get a breakdown by number of sectors, industries, countries, then if hv the % allocated into each of them then can judge more clearerThis post has been edited by MUM: Apr 24 2021, 09:32 AM |
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QUOTE(izzudrecoba @ Apr 24 2021, 08:29 AM) invests in up to a maximum of 40 stocksfrom the above mean max is 40 stock, who know, may b the fund manager able to pick 30 stock aje.... but too diversified not good? u afraid it will drag down the performance? if like this ETF boleh tutup kedai oledi...... u wanna make big profit, try buy the stock.....sure big profit if rally, but if dip, u dun cry aje ..... |
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Apr 25 2021, 12:53 AM
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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Apr 21 2021, 09:52 PM) Public e-Islamic Pioneer Entrepreneur 40 Fund (PeIPE40F) Minimum investment of only RM100 via Public Mutual Online. Invests in up to a maximum of 40 stocks in a portfolio primarily consisting of Shariah-compliant pioneer entrepreneur stocks^. Invests 75% to 98% of its net asset value (NAV) in Shariah-compliant equities globally. Initial Issue Price: RM0.25 per unit during the Offer Period (21 April to 11 May 2021) Sales charge = 3.75% Sectors of Focus for PeIPE40Fâs Equity Portfolio PeIPE40F may target to invest in Shariah-compliant stocks of founder-led companies listed on the global markets that offer attractive growth prospects and resilient earnings profiles within sectors such as technology and consumer as well as selected cyclical industries. https://www.publicmutual.com.my/Menu/Campai...unches/PeIPE40F https://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...8%3d&portalid=0 https://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...8%3d&portalid=0 https://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...c%3d&portalid=0 |
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