I was just talking to prasys on InsanelyMac about Rapidshare.

Their download limit is very interesting.



I think this is awesome. So a little suggestion to TM Nut. Cap everyone at 4 mbit. Sell your bandwidth like its supposed to: by data transfers.

500 MB / day - RM 44
1000 MB / day - RM 66
2000 MB / day - RM 88
5000 MB / day - RM 128
10000 MB / day - RM 188

All data accounts can accumulate to up to 20,000 MB download. If you run out of data credit, software throttle us to 128 kbit. Fair play for everyone, right? And please, don't throttle anything! We pay for the bandwidth, if you think we're doing something illegal, press charges! Don't just act like a girl and discreetly throttle us.

Heavy downloaders like myself will like the upper two plans. People who online 24/7 but just to check e-mail and webcam on Skype / MSN will like the rm 44 / 66 plan.

If that really happend I think no one will want to BT or P2P anymore cause playing online game may also cost a lot~

Heh i still prefer the "don't throttle us, don't limit us" plan
To accept anything less means we're agreeing to a lesser service at the same price.
For broadband connection we shouldn't really be counting how much we download. Kinda makes me think we're back to the dial-up days.

I think this calculation is still too expensive. It is more reasonable if adding one more "0" at the back, so it will become as belowed:

5000 MB / day - RM 44
10000 MB / day - RM 66
20000 MB / day - RM 88
50000 MB / day - RM 128
100000 MB / day - RM 188

As for me i'd go with something like this

1500 MB / day - RM 44
5000 MB / day - RM 66
10000 MB / day - RM 88
25000 MB / day - RM 128
45000 MB / day - RM 188

I dont really mind about p2p throttling but giving bandwidth transfer quota is just too much! and they self claimed as the largest ISP in SEA my foot!
besides those packages wont make any difference because its just close to the theorical limit of maximum bandwidth transfer per day based on each package speed.

ISPs especially TM Net can't charge for their services using this pricing structure as it makes revenue earnings extremely unpredictable. Meanwhile, the international links cost are fixed regardless of more or less been used. TM Net will go bankrupt if they did this and this pricing structure discourages the use of internet as well which is 100% against what the government is trying to achieve.

Yeah I prefer no quota's as well, best logic

1. Even nowadays, TMnut revenue earnings is unpredictable. It will not making any differences if using pricing structure.
2. If international links cost are fixed (regardless of more or less been used), TM nut is definitely wrong to throttle BT. TMnut must increase international link.
3. TMnut is earning BIG BIG money every year because it monopoly Malaysia's broadband service. How TMnut will bankrupt ??
3.Actually, BT is functioning through internet. Increasement of BT usage is accouraging internet usage and it is just perfectly match with government's achieve.

Everyone wishes for that but TMnet won't favor you on this, so in order people are starting to come up with the quota per month deal and hopefully TMnet implement that so that they can unthrottle us on BT.

and after the implement of quota, TM must not throttle BT anymore.

f*k!!! 100Gigs a day? Porn servers feeding 10 HDTV monitors 24/7?? Seriously, that's too much lor. Try to start an ISP and check out the real prices of b/width. You'd be surprised. 100 mbit unshared cost US$5,000 with tier 1 ISPs per month.

Maybe I should make it more clear. These are per day allowances.. meaning you won't run out of bandwidth and speed at the end of your calendar months. The counter resets at midnight!

0.5 MB / day - RM 44
1 GB / day - RM 66
2 GB / day - RM 88
5 GB / day - RM 128
10 GB / day - RM 188

If you want something with no quota, and you want 90% of advertised speeds 24/7, low pings, try TM Direct. You won't be disappointed! 1 mbit symmetric (up/down) connection at rm 12,000 / year. Confirm happy wan!

sounds like you want to pay more to TM ??
and do you think one 2M speed line can download up to 100GB per day ??

You fail to realise that price is after adding a factor of most probably 200% for profits because they (TM Net) are charging a company which makes profit from the use of the internet. Whereas we do not make any profits unless we open vcd/dvd stalls or sell thru the internet.

This post has been edited by TC_Boy: Oct 25 2006, 04:05 PM

Correction: 0.5 GB / day - RM 44

I feel that some people are overpaying while 10% of Streamyx users are underpaying. Obviously, common sense would tell you that the 10% would feel the pinch harder!

Imagine going to the buffet, and the restaurant manager looks at you, and say, "Ok... you're thin, can't eat much. I'll charge you $20. Then a fat dude comes in, looks very hungry and he says, hmm.. you're likely gonna eat much so its $40 for you, sir"

Internet bandwidth and restaurant buffet might not be the same, but the concept is similar. Perhaps if we make the bandwidth commodity like petrol and offer "unlimited fillings per month". The intention is that, you can drop by at the petrol station any time you want. But due to abuse, people go to the petrol station and suck all the petrol. Some honest users will use less whereas the top 10% users suck out 80% of the petrol. Unfair for the other 90% honest paying users. Not to say the top 10% users are cheats... but by right, they should pay more.

Payment by transfers is the way to go to ensure good consistent speeds and minimal abuse.

Bro tgr, read the first post unedited. "Cap everyone at 4 mbit". Furthermore, I didn't suggest 100GB / day. I said "10000 MB / day - RM 188" and if you go to basic computing class, it translates to 10 GB. According to my calculations, assuming 90% efficiency & saturation of line, then it'll take under 6.5 hours to fully use your 4 mbit pipe. After that, you get capped at 128kbit, still able to check your mail and MSN, but your torrents and other downloads will throttle.

Get it?

Bro TC, I mention about US$5,000/mth truly dedicated internet connectivity for 100mbit? The rm 12k/year is the ballpark cost if you want one at your premises right now. If your theory about "we do not make any profit" is true, then my unlimited petrol theory would sound like this:

"Transnational and Konsortium should pay RM 10/litre for diesel. They're making a profit. I should pay RM 0.50/litre because I don't make a profit or pirate DVD stalls!!!" Mmmmmmkay....

My last line makes me think of software pricing too.

"Graphic design firms, big companies and corporations should pay $10,000 for Microsoft Windows, Adobe Photoshop and Microsoft Office. We home users should pay $50 each cause its we do not make a profit!"

10GB per day with RM188 is too expensive.
that is why I say 100GB per day with RM188. and I don't think I can reach that amount with my 1.5M line ( even I download 24 hour).
@@ I don't like cap/throttle. It should be fix to constant speed .. why 4mbit and later back to 128kbit ??

another word, RM188 should be package for unlimited p2p download

This post has been edited by work_tgr: Oct 25 2006, 05:06 PM

Yes, this is absolutely correct. This is why the BSA only go after companies and not home users because companies earn profit from the productivity gained thru the use of illegal software.

This is a joke. I can get a news server service providing me with 30GB per month for RM37 and yet the ISP service cost twice as much? excit3, you really need to think again and not use rapidshare because they are ripping you off. I can get UNLIMITED news server service access for RM55 per month and download at 1Mbps 24/7 easily.

TM Net should have no problems at all providing for an unlimited internet service at 1Mbps for double the price (RM110) of an unlimited News Server service.

This post has been edited by TC_Boy: Oct 25 2006, 09:39 PM

I guess you two have to go survey other broadband providers around the world who caps download usages, and compare that to my proposal. You'll be bloody shocked.

Some ISPs give 30GB / MONTH at a high premium. Just look at Australia for example.

It took me a while to finally understand how costly bandwidth actually is. I hope one day you both will too