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post Dec 27 2015, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(kurique @ Dec 26 2015, 08:47 AM)
Petronas is still hiring. The latest intake was in November this year. They will keep recruiting new staff especially for rapid n fpso project. But this time limited to 'technical professional' position.
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Heard from random sources in PCSB-SKO, during engagement with staff, the head of SKO asked how would they feel if their salary reduced by 50%. Sort of hinting something.
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post Dec 27 2015, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(feekle @ Dec 27 2015, 12:21 PM)
Heard from random sources in PCSB-SKO, during engagement with staff, the head of SKO asked how would they feel if their salary reduced by 50%. Sort of hinting something.
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Yup..unfortunately upstream mostly affected. So far, refinery and petrochemical still have air to breath.
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post Dec 27 2015, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(10y6ms2016 @ Dec 26 2015, 09:10 AM)
Guys I got meng in chemical engineering. Was having career break for years now its time to work. So forgive my zero experience. Im wondering if oil n gas still relevant as the price keep shooting down. And what would be tthe suitable position for me to apply ? I tried saja2 apply after graduation, thru their websites, but no responses, or my application always failed. Petronas haliburton etc. Some friend sometime passed me emails of recruiters, but all seemed wanting experienced ones. So, is there like im missing something in my cv that make my application rejected. I also saja2 applied to like small company before, oil gas consultant, they responded but I'm not sure if its a good place to start. What position should I really consider. How much can I asked for my starting salary. Or should I not bother much of the salary since I got zero experience in this field. I'm really looking forward to start my career next year. And, another dilemma. I got offer from a prof from nearby universities for PhD . I told him I can't because I plan to work soon. But he insisted and said this research won't bother me much, its will be related to my future work and he promised it will so flexible to my working hour. He offered me doing a research health safety in oil gas. So, im wondering how oil gas companies here responded to if I do a PhD and apply to work as well. Or should I just keep quiet about it when applying for the job.
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You saja saja apply of course they find you main main, don't bother to layan

No. As long as your phd doesn't disturb your work.
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post Dec 27 2015, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(feekle @ Dec 27 2015, 12:21 PM)
Heard from random sources in PCSB-SKO, during engagement with staff, the head of SKO asked how would they feel if their salary reduced by 50%. Sort of hinting something.
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I doubt that will happen any time before the Sarawak State election next year (latest by June 2016).

There's no way Najib and Adnan will allow any more "disenchantments" amongst the Sarawakians prior to the very important and crucial political event for BN in 2016.




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post Dec 27 2015, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(MEngineer @ Dec 27 2015, 08:14 AM)
HR sounds reasonable to retrench because they are support staff too. I always wonder what HR do on a daily basis. Seems to me they are always quite free. HR also don't fight for employees rights or increment. Any HR to defend this.
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HR ppl need to look after their rice bowl first. Why risk of being black listed by the highest management to "fight" for employees rights?


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QUOTE(mohdyakup @ Dec 26 2015, 06:46 PM)
Even HR being retrenched at Murphy & Bumi Armada...
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Murphy retrenched staff at all levels; its infamous for its brutal, fast, and cold retrenchment exercises.

But the good side of it is that the company's compensations are pretty reasonable, a real gold, fast and firm good bye "handshake".
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QUOTE(skinnydude @ Dec 27 2015, 11:30 AM)
I think Technip did its part by holding its employees as long as it can. Currently Technip is out of job. So time to chop chop and chop  rclxub.gif
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To be fair to Technip, the company since its inception in Malaysia in the mid 1980s, has never retrenched its permanent staff until recently.



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post Dec 27 2015, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(skinnydude @ Dec 27 2015, 11:30 AM)
I think Technip did its part by holding its employees as long as it can. Currently Technip is out of job. So time to chop chop and chop  rclxub.gif
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I am guessing you haven't been chop in yet. If you got retrenched see if you still look up to Technip like an angel haha.

When times are good, loyal people leave, companies like this complain no loyal workers all Gen Y like that not appreciative. When times are bad their turn just retrench people and act angelic blame it on the industry. Come annual report, company still make millions. There is no compassionate in this world when in comes to money.

QUOTE(Stamp @ Dec 27 2015, 05:02 PM)
HR ppl need to look after their rice bowl first. Why risk of being black listed by the highest management to "fight" for employees rights?
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Agreed they are the master of politics.

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post Dec 28 2015, 08:59 AM

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Hi all, let me know if there is any vacancy for ROV inspector, TQ

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You can try Canyon Offshore, Bermuda Subsea, ROV Resources, Subsea7 and Allied Marine. But I don't think many of them is hiring as there are a lot of ROV vessels anchorage at Labuan right now.

QUOTE(MEngineer @ Dec 27 2015, 10:43 PM)
I am guessing you haven't been chop in yet. If you got retrenched see if you still look up to Technip like an angel haha.

When times are good, loyal people leave, companies like this complain no loyal workers all Gen Y like that not appreciative. When times are bad their turn just retrench people and act angelic blame it on the industry. Come annual report, company still make millions. There is no compassionate in this world when in comes to money.

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It is all about making money and profit. That is the reality. They are not charities lol.
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post Dec 28 2015, 11:12 AM

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It's funny that a lot of O&G personnel hates HR. I thought that HR would have been a lot better since my time (I hate HR previously with a vengeance). Now, I don't care about them so much. As long as they assist me in what I need to be done, they are in my cool books. Otherwise, I don't want to be bothered about them so much. I have other things on my plate that is more important than HR smile.gif
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QUOTE(MEngineer @ Dec 27 2015, 08:14 AM)
HR sounds reasonable to retrench because they are support staff too. I always wonder what HR do on a daily basis. Seems to me they are always quite free. HR also don't fight for employees rights or increment. Any HR to defend this.
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Ouch, it pained me to hear you say so.

HR is quite free once any activities is completed. Else, they will be tied with the normal work cycle. Similar to other department however since HR is a cost centre so it always be a black sheep vs engineering/other profit centre. cry.gif cry.gif I always want HR to be profit centre so it will not devalued against other profit centre.

As for me, my team is still actively hiring so we are tied with sourcing activities - roughly 30 intake per month. For my recruitment team, it is a constant cycle - branding, sourcing, interviewing, hiring, orientation, selection. Repeat till you puke. We were quite relax in early this year due to current stop to Upstream activities but downstream/TA work is still ongoing so quite busy at this moment.

For our HR Operations, they just completed the increment cycles so they are quite relax for now. However they also tied with relocation/transfer/resignation/retirement/medical expenses related job. Come March - June, they will be tied with Performance Appraisal, Bonus, Increment related tasks.

Increment wise - it depends on company direction. If there is a preset figure for that year, HR will put in the employee's rating/position accordingly based on Bell's curve. Since KPI rating is a feedback from department manager, HR will rationalize it but if there is a odd rating/unfair rating, HR will question the department manager to ensure a fair rating. If you felt that your boss is a nightmare to work with, imagine us outsider whom required to fight over your KPI/rating which your boss will surely say that he know what his staff doing instead of HR. In my current company, the rating review usually takes more than 3 rounds. Always fight with manager on over-rating/under rating. That is our main job. Fight with everyone. Haha..

Mati-mati debate also the final say is upon the department manager. However when upon increment or bonus pay out, department manager will say - ASK HR Lorr why low pay.. Sien..

Employee right - HR is always torn in between company direction/employee right since we all makan gaji too. Whenever an action is initiated by manager, HR will counter check to ensure if the action is in accordance to law. E.g - you want to fire a person. HR will ensure that the manager already do the necessary, counselling, warning letter, DI and etc. However if the manager still want to fire without doing the necessary, HR will ensure the minimum compensation is given (notice period) to ease the repercussion. Yes, the staff can always fight back via labour court and 90% of cases always sided with the employee but how many want to take that route? Furthermore in the small O&G world where everybody know everybody.

With that being said, a good ration is 1 HR per 100 employee. So if the company is downsized, definitely HR also a must go. Hope my long winded answer does answered your queries.

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QUOTE(Stamp @ Dec 27 2015, 05:06 PM)
Murphy retrenched staff at all levels; its infamous for its brutal, fast, and cold retrenchment exercises.

But the good side of it is that the company's compensations are pretty reasonable, a real gold, fast and firm good bye "handshake".
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What's their retrenchment compensations like?
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QUOTE(azraeil @ Dec 28 2015, 11:12 AM)
It's funny that a lot of O&G personnel hates HR. I thought that HR would have been a lot better since my time (I hate HR previously with a vengeance). Now, I don't care about them so much. As long as they assist me in what I need to be done, they are in my cool books. Otherwise, I don't want to be bothered about them so much. I have other things on my plate that is more important than HR smile.gif
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True. When I joined my company, I was quite shocked to see most of HR in O&G is quite traditional and still practice the Dinosaur way of things. Very authoritative, administrative, no transparency, P&C and no nonsense one. Things slightly better as most of the company start to adopt the Business Partner method. Still a long way to go but it is getting better.
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post Dec 28 2015, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(thoyol @ Dec 28 2015, 11:14 AM)

With that being said, a good ration is 1 HR per 100 employee. So if the company is downsized, definitely HR also a must go. Hope my long winded answer does answered your queries.
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1 to 100? Woah that is quite a lot, no?
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QUOTE(thoyol @ Dec 28 2015, 11:21 AM)
True. When I joined my company, I was quite shocked to see most of HR in O&G is quite traditional and still practice the Dinosaur way of things. Very authoritative, administrative, no transparency, P&C and no nonsense one. Things slightly better as most of the company start to adopt the Business Partner method. Still a long way to go but it is getting better.
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In Aramco, most decisions are made by the department head. They don't have HR over there, they have Personnel and their job is to make sure that they serve the employee. Small outfit. They do have a thick Employee IR (Industrial Relations) Manual which they update constantly. The IR manual is on the Intranet and all employees are able to access it and any changes done will be shown (summary of changes/clause etc) and the actual IR Manual in PDF format will have this thick red bars on the side showing what has changed.

The only company where I have worked which I had no issues with HR. If you have any issues you'd like to clarify, you just send an email to your personnel advisor and they will clarify the matter within a couple of days. Employment Certificates (for your loans or whatever) is generated automatically from your HR Online portal so basically your interactions with HR is very very minimal. Almost everything is handled via the SAP system in the background, so your leaves, your allowances etc are handled by your department/division secretary .... it was awesome. It was night and day compared to my previous company.
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QUOTE(MEngineer @ Dec 27 2015, 10:43 PM)
I am guessing you haven't been chop in yet. If you got retrenched see if you still look up to Technip like an angel haha.

When times are good, loyal people leave, companies like this complain no loyal workers all Gen Y like that not appreciative. When times are bad their turn just retrench people and act angelic blame it on the industry. Come annual report, company still make millions. There is no compassionate in this world when in comes to money.
Agreed they are the master of politics.
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Ehh.. I didn't mean that way. :-) and of course they will make millions yearly regardless of the market. I was just comparing technip with other companies.

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QUOTE(azraeil @ Dec 28 2015, 02:18 PM)
In Aramco, most decisions are made by the department head. They don't have HR over there, they have Personnel and their job is to make sure that they serve the employee. Small outfit. They do have a thick Employee IR (Industrial Relations) Manual which they update constantly. The IR manual is on the Intranet and all employees are able to access it and any changes done will be shown (summary of changes/clause etc) and the actual IR Manual in PDF format will have this thick red bars on the side showing what has changed.

The only company where I have worked which I had no issues with HR. If you have any issues you'd like to clarify, you just send an email to your personnel advisor and they will clarify the matter within a couple of days. Employment Certificates (for your loans or whatever) is generated automatically from your HR Online portal so basically your interactions with HR is very very minimal. Almost everything is handled via the SAP system in the background, so your leaves, your allowances etc are handled by your department/division secretary .... it was awesome. It was night and day compared to my previous company.
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Yup, that is the most ideal HR organization model. In Msia I think is called HR Business Partner. These are the frontliners to deal with employee.

They still have the other HR function but the other HR functions is done backdoor or supported in Business Centre environment. I been approached by Halliburton before where they separate HR & recruitment. HR is localized based on country while Recruitment required to support regional. Same goes to BP. Everything else leave to SAP system.

I also enquire the cost for SAP HR System implementation and the basic system will cost minimum RM 1.2 million without any customization. Customization will cost minimum twice-triple the software cost to localize the whole system in accordance to organization need. Not many company willing to spend that much for HR system and thats why HR in Msia are still behind as the process/policy are still backwards.
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QUOTE(champlaos11 @ Dec 28 2015, 01:35 PM)
1 to 100? Woah that is quite a lot, no?
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Like I said, ideal number as being shared by Technip top HR personnel in a seminar I attended 2 years ago. I think Technip also maintaining the same number for HR:total employee ratio.

In my company it is 1:300. Hahahah.. Not all company will follow the number.

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