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 The Lian Li League V2.0, Come pimp ure darling Ah Lian

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post May 1 2007, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(Doom @ Apr 30 2007, 10:29 AM)
hmmm ... i can SMS them for the availability. mind to tell me why u are looking for it ....
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Well, i am looking forward to have a side fan for later purposes when i wanted to change a GC that are going to be hotter than my current 7300GT. Therefore, i guess this side fan will be suitable..Anyway, if you got any news, please do let me know ok.Might not get it too fast as well..GC just kong.. sweat.gif

QUOTE(Doom @ Apr 30 2007, 10:34 AM)
yah much more better, u coudl tie the PCI-E cable and the sata power cable together for better alignment.

Push the power, reset cable and bit more behind the HDD cage so that not that visible, why dont u use the Q-Connector comes with the Asus mobo for easier assembly. Do u really need the rear USB ports ?? it's kind of too visible laying at the bottom of the case..


Added on April 30, 2007, 10:43 am

it depend the type of the casing u are using, personally i like BS-02 more due to it's flexibility of reverse mount the fan either for intake or exhaust.

I turn it into intake to reduce the temperature of my 8800GTS and it turn out to be 5c lower for both idle and load as compared to exhaust.

It has another advantage as well as it's slidable so it would be more flexible and it would not drag the hot air around the case back into it.

I reversed the BS-03's fan become intake and it suck the hot air exhaust by 8800GTS back into the case..  doh.gif
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So Doom, do you mean the BS-02 would be better.I actually saw BS-02 the other day when i was there.They are selling it seperately for RM50 but i thought i do not need it so fast. So i just leave it. Design wise, i really like the BS-03. It looks simple to me, not like the fancy BS-02. But if BS-02 is going to perform better, i will definitely get it..
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post May 2 2007, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(vincent09 @ May 2 2007, 10:46 AM)
Hmm today go check for the fan. coolermaster super fan airflow not bad.

But just now i try remove my LL case and feel the airflow of LL fan, i feel like quite high airflow than normal case fan.
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For me, the stock LL fan will work fine IF their original filters is not there. The filters are blocking alot of intake air (as far as in my casing now) but i am not in the mood of taking them away as my room is quite dusty..
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post May 2 2007, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(fo33il @ May 2 2007, 11:16 AM)
i also thinking the same...coz, the filter's hole is just too small...maybe the air dont flow out as much as without the filter...but,the filter suit me as my place is full of dust!!!same with ya,akachester..... biggrin.gif

off topic...can i know how much do u bought the zerotherm vga cooler...and where do u bought it? (wat shop in SLS)
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Yea, but the filters are working flawlessly. Its really helping me blocking the dust and not to mention, very easy to clean as well..Therefore, i am really reluctant to change it though.

Would changing the fan to something stonger (more CFM) able to solve the problem of not having enough air due to blockage of the filters?
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post May 2 2007, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(evilnickwong @ May 2 2007, 11:33 AM)
Not really. Stronger fan also means the filters will get clogged up faster since more air is moving through it. You'll still have to clean them up regularly.

In my own experience, using low airflow fans actually work well because dust it not easily pulled into the filters since the pressure from the fan is not very strong. I'm also using double filters in my PC-60B. One is the stock black foam-like filter, and on top of that is a aluminum mesh filter (from Petras Tech, MNPCTech).
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Mine are both aluminum mesh filter (front and back) that came together with the casing. I can personally clean the filters everyday but the airflow is really bad. The filters are really a problem there in blocking my airflow.Thats why i wonder changing the fan to something better and more CFM will help..
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post May 2 2007, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(vincent09 @ May 2 2007, 06:46 PM)
Today search around Low Yat for replace my LL case fan, but most of them are vizo and coolermaster, air flow i think is same as LL case fan besides vizo's windstorm ( dam noisy if i put 2 of them ). So i think just use back LL's fan until can't work then change.

I saw 1 aluminium fan quite nice but no 12cm, performance around 37 cfm and noise is below vizo UV Led fan.

SLS? where is it XD. that Artic Cooling fan look like nice o XD
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SLS - Sim Lim Square located at Singapore..
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post May 2 2007, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(evilnickwong @ May 2 2007, 08:10 PM)
I'm using Yate Loons undervolted to about 1000rpm and they pull air just fine through the filters. Too much pressure can be decremental as well you know. wink.gif

Give it a try and see how it goes, for all you know, your temps might not change and you'll have a quieter rig.
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Well, i already have a plan of putting the FM121 as exhaust.Since it will come with a controller, i guess i can try to control the speed to see which will be better...
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post May 11 2007, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(kalakatu @ May 11 2007, 12:17 PM)
anyone managed to install the top 80mm fan for PC-G7?
i tried but looks like my cables are disturbing it.. sweat.gif

or should i put nothing on it?  unsure.gif
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Well, i manage to do it for my PC-7 without any hassle. I think the design should be the same...i just take the cables and go around the fan.Tie them hard using cable tie only...

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post May 13 2007, 09:36 AM

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Ouch..full tower.Should be fairly expensive..
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post May 13 2007, 03:39 PM

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Anyone knows any good replacement for the mesh aluminum fan filters that came together with LL casing?I do not want to run my PC without filters for too long. In need of good replacements at a cheap price..lol..
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post May 18 2007, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(Doom @ May 18 2007, 11:15 AM)
Won't it produces noticeable noise .. ??? I had assemble P C for others based on their requirement ..... I came accros of VIZO fan before but. It pushes high airflow but at higher noise level of course....

I just can't get used to it ... even CM silent version i feel it's a bit noisy when placed at the front panel ...
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Running Noctua fan as my front intake for now and no problem with noise there.Maybe my toleration level is higher but the Noctua fan is really silent and pushes alot of air as well.Maybe you could look into that for silent setup..
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post May 21 2007, 11:09 AM

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How many of you guys here have the LL Wheels?I am tempted to get one from irangan when i have my budget ready and was wondering would i be daring enough to use the wheel when it cost so expensive..lol..
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post May 21 2007, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(Bliz @ May 21 2007, 12:20 PM)
What for lar buy casing wheels? U wanna drag your CPU around your room everynow and then?  doh.gif
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lol..because it looks pretty and nice..
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post May 23 2007, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(johnnycp @ May 23 2007, 02:01 PM)
nah laugh.gif still can mod it using magnet or screw

the plastic material use inside lian-li casing is very low grade. even my dust filter frame also can notice slightly cracked due to heat.

anywhere, my casing lasted longer than i expected.(bought in 2001)

even the new lian-li casing still using the plastic clip??? that's just suck.

one thing for sure, u can get a full alumunium casing under RM300, while other brand u need RM450 and above.

alluminuim advantage over SECC steel, they dont get rust and absorb heat better, easy to mod(*), lighter. so u can use them like year(s)
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Even my PC-7 also comes with those plastic clip. But only on the lower part that covers the front input like USB etc..

QUOTE(blessedvillain @ May 23 2007, 02:50 PM)
Today suddenly have the temptation to take out the front panel and do some mid-afternoon casing cleaning. Check out the dust collected at the front panel!!! It's only 1 week+ since I last clean the filter.

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Followed Doom's and few other Lian li kaki suggestions to remove the rear mesh filter and replaced with grilled finger guard instead to improved air flow.
Results : Seriously better air flow! and Slighly lesser noise...

About the new PC-7S, it still does have the plastic thing.. doh.gif
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What do you mean by grilled finger guard?Is it a filter?I already throw those LL filters away. Blocking air like crazy. Now causing my case to suck in alot of dust..lol..Even worse need to clean the internal every week..
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QUOTE(vincent09 @ May 23 2007, 03:38 PM)
mADmAN can i ask 1 thing? I ask at many thread also no 1 answer it.
If put the filter like yours is it will block some air flow ?
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For me, i guess it will for sure block some airflow but dont think it will be blocking air as bad as the LL filters..
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post May 23 2007, 04:51 PM

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@ mADmAN

But fan grills does not help in reducing dust from entering the casing which is a big problem for me.

@ E-J@1

The mesh filter comes originally with the LL casing. At least on my PC-7. The problem is, if you take the filter out, it will leave a very big hole at the rear. I also changed it to fan grills cause the mesh filters are blocking alot of air but it doesnt looks nice..
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post May 23 2007, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ May 23 2007, 05:04 PM)
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

yeah its mine....but that pic was taken when the case was still brand spanking new...ive removed it and replaced it with a fingerguard (now using one on each side of the fan)....the mesh thingy has only seen like 3-5 minutes of airflow tongue.gif
then u should get this from uglyvamp...

user posted image

its good in filtering and doesnt block out so much air flow...im using it for my fan on my XP-120.

reason why im not using it on my front is because my room has a lot of dust and i need something thats easier to remove and clean. if i use the one in the pic i have to unscrew it every time i wanna clean it off doh.gif
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I had tried to contact Uglyvamp before regarding this but it seems his website only have 8cm ones. Not sure he have 12cm ones though..PM him already regarding this but does look like he have it though..
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post May 24 2007, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(fo33il @ May 24 2007, 07:43 PM)
i just saw the aerocool brand only... biggrin.gif
nvm,will check out again next time....

also, i dont see any vantec nexus at lyp... hmm.gif
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Try asking in the fan controller thread at OC United. Maybe people there could help out..
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post May 25 2007, 09:45 AM

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Guys, need some oppinion here..Will it be a problem having 2 powerful exhaus t fan and a single low speed intake fan?

I currently have a Noctua S12-1200 as front intake and 2 silverstone as exhaust (FM121 at rear and FM82 at top).Would it be any trouble?Should i get another intake by getting the LL Side panel fan?

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post May 25 2007, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ May 25 2007, 10:16 AM)
depends on ur hardware temp, is ur proc hot? is ur vga hot?

if both of these hardware are cool in temp, don't bother getting additional fan, it doesn't mean if u add more fan in ur case, the temp will drop like crazy...

example if i got 10 intake & 10 exhaust fan doesn't mean my hardware will get the same temp as if i were using watercooling, hell if its works, i think some of the watercooling users will opt this option coz less hassle in managing it, have to monitor from time to time to make sure no leakage & yada yada yada....

although u got 3 exhaust fan (PSU Fan + FM121 + FM82) sucking out all air inside the case, it's not like ur case is "kedap udara", fresh air will eventually get in by those crack or tiny holes, don't worry lor

if ur hardware is hot, it means the hardwares are hungry for fresh air

if ur hardware already in an acceptable temp range don't bother getting an additional fan --> if really wanna add more intake fan, prepare to reschedule ur cleaning time table for the case laugh.gif
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lol..I already pre-ordered some filters from Uglyvamp.Just need to make sure he have some of it then i am fine with dust problem. My proc is rated around 48c while my GC previously is about 51c..Is that hot enough to require another fan?I mean, LL case is good for air flow so i guess it wouldnt be a problem there with airflow...
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post May 25 2007, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(vincent09 @ May 25 2007, 10:38 AM)
akachester your Proc nad GC is is running on that temp or idle ?
My hardware temp also be like that for idle.

Now i also got problem with the fan sensor, 1 is side panel fan, 1 is front intake fan, i dont know where to put my sensor and just hanging somewhere. Maybe need install that fan control to control myself, because that sensor hanging ther although is hot or cold also run that RPM, any suggestion where to put my sensor ?
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All on idle. My Opteron is getting crazy day by day...

Well, for me, i put my fan controller at the floopy bay of the LL because its in silver.I already have another one which is in black and will switch it to the outsite to match my casing..Anyway, its hard to pull the wire from the back of the casing to the front.. rclxub.gif

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