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post Jun 7 2020, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jun 7 2020, 10:04 AM)


Should install like the video above. Across the live and neutral wire. Your seller really like Picassohai. doh.gif
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It is amazing how the company that sell the switch manage to survive laugh.gif

Well, do you think the diagram is from the seller not from the installation guide? hmm.gif
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post Jun 7 2020, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Jun 7 2020, 12:53 PM)
Lol, so meaning the capacitor connect to the live and neutral of the ceiling fan?
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This is how the connection is supposed to be.

Most switch need to put capacitor on L1 (like in drawing) and as Fubar20 joke said that if you put the capacitor across the ceiling fan, not the light, you will see the fan speed is affected because capacitor will affect fan speed. So, avoid this.

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post Jun 11 2020, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(TheLegend27 @ Jun 11 2020, 04:57 PM)
let's say i got 2 light in L1, can i put the capacitor (come with light) at 2nd downlight?
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I don't think you connect downlight that way in series, That way, the voltage is dropped by half for each downlight. smile.gif

All should be in parallel, the two downlights and the capacitor
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post Jun 12 2020, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(TheLegend27 @ Jun 12 2020, 11:51 AM)
normally if got few downlight, the live wire always looping?
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Maybe you simplified your diagram or term looping gave me different idea, but I meant connect in parallel, not series like the bottom one laugh.gif



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post Jun 15 2020, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(kelvin @ Jun 15 2020, 08:04 AM)
Hi,
Can the smart switches/plug can set when the time can activated? maybe only activate during night time (8PM to 6AM)? When I can find the UK standard smart plug?
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You can find it today laugh.gif

oppss. I never seen UK smart plug, but there is pmany UK smart socket

https://shopee.sg/Ewelink-SST10-WiFi-Smart-...2483.7308901206

https://shopee.com.my/WiFi-Smart-Plug-(Mala...5564.4035291288


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post Jun 15 2020, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jun 15 2020, 09:16 AM)
What the heck is pmany? biggrin.gif
The ones you shown are smart plugs. Smart wall sockets are rare.

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I look at he hole there and called it socket but the device itself are plug.... my bad blush.gif
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post Jun 16 2020, 07:50 AM

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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Jun 15 2020, 11:03 PM)
Does anyone know the Z-wave frequency of local Yale smart locks? I haven't got a reply from the company.
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The frequency can be read here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-Wave

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post Jun 16 2020, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Jun 16 2020, 08:51 AM)
I know that. I’m sure curious if Yale locks for Malaysia market comply to the allocated Z-Wave frequencies or not.

I’ll find out from their reseller since HQ isn’t replying.
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Looks like I misunderstood. I thought you got the frequency info but want to know Malaysia frequency blush.gif

If they follow procedure, they need to submit any radio frequency product to SIRIM for approval since they need AP to import any radio related product. To legally import, they need product to be approved, thus I think the frequency should comply. Otherwise will not get approval. Unless they brought it in illegally laugh.gif , but this is legitimate business smile.gif


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post Jun 17 2020, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jun 17 2020, 09:26 AM)
Last time there were very limited Malaysia frequency z-wave devices, I don't know whether or not is it still true now, If I were you, I will choose U.S frequency because it has more z-wave devices available.

BTW, I won't recommend to get z-wave devices as it is more expensive, zigbee devices also can achieve the same purpose.
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Theoretically, zigbee is much better architecture compare to z-wave. Although both z-wave and zigbee use mesh networking, the z-wave can go up to 4 hops and limited to 232 total devices compares to no hop limit and 65k devices for zigbee. I guess the z-wave is more expensive due to less popular?


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post Jun 23 2020, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(kelvin @ Jun 23 2020, 09:23 AM)
Just tested to tap the neutral line from water heater switch, the water heater ELCB will trip. I believe the water heater ELCB detected the current leakage as the wall switch use some current to operate. No problem when I connect the neutral line for the air-cond switch.
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After ELCB? Why not before ELCB? biggrin.gif
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post Jun 23 2020, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(kelvin @ Jun 23 2020, 12:16 PM)
The circuit is originally from developer. TNB -> Main ELCB -> Water Heater ELCB  (both ELCB are in DB) -> Water Heater Double pole switch -> I tap the neutral from this switch and cause trip.
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I see. The water heater one in DB. So, cannot avoid tapping after ELCB. Well I think it is RCD, not ELCB which I think will not trigger. Since you have other N nearby, then it is ok. If not just remove the heater RCD and put it near water heater. Anyway the water heater has built-in protection also usually, but people like to put additional one smile.gif
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post Jul 5 2020, 06:08 AM

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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jul 4 2020, 11:24 PM)
Can you assist me? Or anyone else?

I am planning to attach the sonoff mini to only the light switch of a 2 gang (light and fan switch) and I need to get a neutral from the AC right? I have extra wire that I can do that with. I have attached a couple of pictures below.

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That loop wire is the Live wire. Means the Fan and the light is sharing the same L wire.

The AC switch wire connect and disconnect both L and N (Double Pole Switch), unlike Fan and Light switches which only connect and disconnect only L wire. So, the Yellow one is L and the Black one is N.

My question: Is your house wiring single phase or 3-phase? The reason I ask is that because your Light L wire is Red and the AC L wire is Yellow. If 3 phase then, usually the H wire for each phase is different.
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post Jul 6 2020, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jul 5 2020, 09:46 AM)
3 phase wiring, i noticed that the live wire on a lower floor is blue. Either way, what should I be doing? Need a neutral to the sonofff mini (which I am guessing is just to power it on?) Thanks.
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Like Fubar20 said it might trip the circuit breaker. Usually, RCD is used on each phase. Each RCD will compare the current that flows out of to load (L wire) with the current return from load (N wire). If it is not equal, then there must be leak or short, thus trip the RCD. That is why you cannot have one phase L return to another phase N.

Either use switch that requires no N or use the RF switch with receiving module at light point.
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post Jul 8 2020, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(lyt25_1234 @ Jul 8 2020, 09:43 AM)
How u tuck that device into the socket without getting blocked by the switch?
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Looks like there is enough space between switches thumbsup.gif
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post Jul 8 2020, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jul 7 2020, 06:59 PM)
Just want to update, I just gave it a go to tap the neutral from the AC, i thought if trip then I can just cancel this plan and go for a no neutral switch instead. Thankfully it works. Linked with the app and on homebridge linked to HomeKit which is nice.

Wish I bought a different color cable tho.
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That's good. Your house probably use 4-pole RCD or probably just normal 3-phase ELCB. This way any phase has common N thumbsup.gif
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post Jul 8 2020, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(lyt25_1234 @ Jul 8 2020, 01:34 PM)
Good to hear that. Mine don't have space at all, dunno why urs can...
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Hack the hole deeper. Not easy since you need to remove the in-wall plastic box first and put it back after hacking. Need to get longer screw to fix.

Another way is to put another mounting box next to the switch for the Sonoff and use plain switch cover. This way easy to fix in case of problem.
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post Jul 9 2020, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(Hookes @ Jul 8 2020, 10:43 PM)
Wireless ceiling fan is now possible with all kinds of ceiling fan. 
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It has been in market quite long time ago, China made and several variations.

Bought it quite some time but never install laugh.gif . My fan is with light (3 light pattern control) and 3 fan speed. Looks like I can only use to remotely control the fan speed and only can on and off the light. smile.gif
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post Jul 13 2020, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jul 13 2020, 02:39 PM)
What is this? Looks powerful and complex
Can hide if you wanna. Put it inside a box lah. biggrin.gif
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No need box. Put on ceiling and then don't look up laugh.gif
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post Jul 13 2020, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(cwchong27 @ Jul 13 2020, 06:28 PM)
Anyone can advice the difference btw : (1) change the wall socket to smart and (2) apply an external smart plug on it?
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Change wall socket with smart wall socket will make it look nice than plug.

Putting another plug on smart plug adds 2 times bulge, thus possible tripping on plug. wink.gif

Another bad point of having smart plug on wall socket is that now you have twice contact points; one between smart plug and the socket and the other one is the appliance plug into smart plug. This will cause more heat generated if operating high amp devices. Less efficient and more possible cause of fire.
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QUOTE(freakerz0id @ Jul 15 2020, 12:39 AM)
thanks bro! Any alternative option for a cleaner look? haha.... the symbol and everything like abit messy but if no other choices then guess ill just have to go for it. Was hoping that i can find something like the link i provided. Very clean and modern switch look.
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Like what idoblu said, why need switch for water heater? Oh... you want to power it on since it takes time to heat since you are using tank type.

Well, I have tank type water heater too in Master bedroom. I find that it is not much delay. The heater inside this tank is the same power like instant one. If you turn you mixer to Hot side, it is almost like instant water heater also. Gradually during shower you can adjust accordingly.

Well, maybe you want to check from your office if you turn it off or not. Leaving it on will significantly increase electricity bill biggrin.gif

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