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post Aug 20 2018, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Aug 20 2018, 09:37 AM)
I was thinking how I can bypass the sensor using existing switch on the wall when I need to switch power on to enable the sensor. Obviously, it was lack of thinking on my side laugh.gif

The sensor need separate power connection, right? So, I can tap the power from the ceiling as shown by purple connection. The sensor will not bother if the wall switch is ON or OFF. Whenever I need, I can always bypass the sensor using the switch on the wall.

I can't find the sensor connection on these sensor yet, but I hope my presumption on the sensor connection is right.

See my diagram. Is my presumption correct?

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post Aug 20 2018, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 20 2018, 10:36 AM)
Just put a sonoff bypass the sensor. kautim.
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Aug 20 2018, 01:13 PM)
looking around, i see there are two types. One you replace your switch itself with the PIR module. This type just connect Live and Load as in your original switch.
The other type (ceiling mounted) is place near the light itself. This type will need the neutral wire and your switch must always be On to supply the power to it.
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OK Thanks. I need to search around. I try to avoid battery powered remote control. Many times they end up with battery lead on remote that I forget about. laugh.gif
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post Aug 22 2018, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(marcus_bread @ Aug 21 2018, 02:49 PM)
I just bought the Sonoff wall smart switch. but not sure whether it is compatible or not. The seller mention it must connect with Neutral (零线)for it to work.
so which is the N line in my existing downlight switch.
picture 1 is my existing electrical cable, pic 2 is the Sonoff switch
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I would say standard wiring in Malaysia does not have N wire pulled down to wall switch. The only place with N wire is just 3-pin wall socket. YOu should look for switch that require no N connection to avoid all these trouble.
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post Aug 26 2018, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(yeop @ Aug 26 2018, 06:00 PM)
Thanks, my fan does come with remote,i just want to control on/off biggrin.gif
because i want to integrate with mi gateway hub
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Why would you want to remotely control since it already has remote switch. Just to control from your office? laugh.gif

Now you have to remote on/off and find another remote to control speed and also able to on/off. smile.gif
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post Aug 27 2018, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(yeop @ Aug 26 2018, 11:47 PM)
Thanks but this solution need another gateway sad.gif i mean i already have the mi gateway.
if i understand correctly to manage multiple different brand gateway, i can use hass.io right?
u are right blush.gif silly me  blush.gif
so are you saying ceiling fan with remote control, no need to use switch to power on the fan?
the stupid reason i want to use aqara switch, to centralize the switch look, later got different design switch(normal switch) look a bit cacat  sweat.gif
still waiting my house to complete end of the year.
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Well, you can install one and leave it on all the time just for exquisite reason. No harm done laugh.gif

I have a Panasonic ceiling fan. The wall switch is always on and I control the fan solely from the remote. The problem with this stupid fan is whenever there is power trip, the fan would be default to certain mid speed when power is back on even though it was on OFF state. So, when I came back home the fan was spinning like hurricane laugh.gif .

Therefore, I bought a touch switch which default on OFF condition under power trip. So, remember to ask the shop and buy the fan with the behaviour you wanted. smile.gif
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post Sep 2 2018, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 1 2018, 09:50 PM)
anyone heard of this company's wall switches? No hub, No Neutral, 1 to 4 gang, physical buttons with indicators, got dimmers and 20A double poles as well - wow all win wor!
dunno how much or exist in the market yet.



more info - https://www.yoswit.com

ooh....looks like a kickstarter thing - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/yoswit...ect&term=yoswit
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I think this is nothing new. Switch (single or two-way), dimmer, or fan regulator with or without remote control using no hub are very common in China market. The only thing perhaps for the one using WiFi, the receiver has to be on ceiling since need more current to operate. Otherwise the standard remote control can be incorporated in switch.

The 20A double pole is not really a problem because the N is there in wall. Note the that Sonoff 20A switch is not really solution for prolonged high amp use. There are reports that the PCB get burnt. I'm not sure about the other 20A but it seems like only one manufacturer is promoting it.
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post Sep 3 2018, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(kelembai @ Sep 3 2018, 05:15 PM)
To all sifu here,seeking your feedaback

Here my proposal to start with small project for my bathroom located inside master bed room. My attention is to switch on the light ( down light) using the door sensor.

1) aqara smart light switch
2) xioami door sensor
3) xiomi gateway

What do you think , any thing i should replace or add for better control
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You mean once the bathroom door open, the light is on? Then unless you bath with door open, you will be showering in the dark laugh.gif

Probably just use PIR sensor. Once detect human body heat, turn on the light depending on the bathroom brightness. Not sure why you need to have control through gateway though. hmm.gif
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post Sep 3 2018, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Sep 3 2018, 05:37 PM)
Gonna need some extra device and setting when turning off light.
Like having motion sensor so the light switch stays on when someone's inside.
You could set 1 minute timeout to turn off lights when there's no motion after you exit bathroom.

Anyone got better ideas?
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I believe that there are PIR motion detector sensor. It is much better than motion detector. It senses body heat and motion, preventing false trigger. Some has integrated time base as well. Time to go home, no time to search laugh.gif

No need to use door sensor switch
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post Sep 4 2018, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(kelembai @ Sep 3 2018, 10:52 PM)
At the end, my bathroom fill with so many sensor and better use my hand switch to on and off hahahaha

Anyway if you easy solution just let me know
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The PIR Motion sensor:

https://www.clipsal.com/sensors
https://shopee.com.my/TB-220V-240V-Infrared...AiABEgLGZvD_BwE
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post Sep 4 2018, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(kelembai @ Sep 3 2018, 06:21 PM)
If i take a shower , PIR still detect or not?
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It can detect the body heat even if you shower with ice laugh.gif
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post Sep 4 2018, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 3 2018, 06:24 PM)
If you use Aqara human motion sensor to turn off if don't detect motion in so many minutes, you will suddenly find yourself in a dark room 😅

What you need is two motion sensors. One inside bathroom set to detect no motion in say 2 minutes. The other motion sensor must be inside the bedroom- set to detect motion. Both conditions must be met before it can turn off the bathroom lights. This can only work if you got an ensuite bathroom

My way I use door sensor only cause I don’t completely close my door. So open door - turn on lights (only at certain time) and off when door closes. Simple and fail safe 😅
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Like I mentioned, use PIR motion sensor, i.e. it detects motion and body heat at the same time.
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post Sep 4 2018, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(kelembai @ Sep 3 2018, 06:44 PM)
Not really understand, yes when i enter the bathroom i will close the bathroom door and at same time the light will on , for sure will make movement and the light will still on until i gooing out. Can it be like that?
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The motion sensor will detect motion for sure. So, so as long as there is movement, it will be kept triggered. If you have bathroom curtain, the wind might move the curtain and trigger the light. That is why I proposed PIR motion sensor. This sensor will prevent false triggering of the light. The PIR sensor uses both motion and infrared (through body heat) to trigger. This is not expensive and easy to install. You can set the ambient light, trigger when the bathroom is dark to certain level. It also has timer to delay power off in most model.

I actually do not understand why people talk about connecting the sensor to sonoff. The sensor is already smart by itself and require no intervention. What else need to be remotely controlled. You can bypass the sensor using the existing switch to bypass sensor. You just need to connect sensor in parallel to the switch. So, either sensor or wall switch can light up the light in the bathroom.
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post Sep 4 2018, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 4 2018, 08:11 AM)
how many you install in your house?
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No, I do not have any motion sensor in my house. blush.gif Always thinking of putting but never did. Maybe because it is not a problem to switch light on and off once enter or leave the bathroom etc. Never forget about the light either laugh.gif
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post Sep 4 2018, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(kelembai @ Sep 4 2018, 08:33 AM)
Fuhhh very good
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A good one should be able to set sensitivity. You don't want to light to switch on when your cat is having shower. Cat does not need light laugh.gif
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post Sep 4 2018, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 4 2018, 08:28 AM)
i have some Aqara motion sensors which are PIR and for some reason they will turn off your lights even when you are still standing there.
I read other brands also act the same way. If you depend on them to keep the lights on then you will realize that they dont always work  biggrin.gif
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Wah... so poor. I guess it depends on the sensor sensitivity. Anything above 0 Kelvin emits heat energy. So, is depends on how sensitive the PIR sensor. The sensor does not radiate any signal because it is passive. ..... or perhaps ypu are cold blooded laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Sep 4 2018, 08:43 AM)
Don't detect motion lah. The actual name is Passive Infra Red (PIR)
That is why I said PIR Motion sensor, not PIR sensor. PIR motion sensor combines both IR and Motion sensors. smile.gif
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post Sep 4 2018, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Sep 4 2018, 09:05 AM)
Can you please explain the 'Motion' part, please? How it works?
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Good question. I never bother to find out because I think it is just like radar, which is active sensor. Now I know that that most cheap sensor uses PIR for both functions.

Here is a good article to describe how PIR is used as motion detector. So, it is said to be PIR motion detector, detect both heat and motion, for commercial reason laugh.gif

https://learn.adafruit.com/pir-passive-infr...r/how-pirs-work
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post Sep 4 2018, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 4 2018, 09:41 AM)
I have this pir motion light at backyard and front for very long.

It very much depend on the surrounding temperature. It can trigger sensitive and sometime sot sot.

Even the sensor 1.5m away from me, it will off the light when just my hand move. I have to wave it or dance around.
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Now I think the naming can be ambiguous. PIR Motion Sensor in general means Motion sensor that uses PIR. Therefore, it is not a sensor that is triggered by heat and movement, but just movement. That is why in your case, lack of movement switch off the light (or no triggering).

What is needed is an IR + Motion Detector biggrin.gif. Otherwise have to dance while showering smile.gif
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post Sep 4 2018, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 4 2018, 09:53 AM)
just use door sensor lah. open to turn on, close to turn off.
tepat dan senang 😅

advantages -
1. you will never get lockout in the bathroom
2. you will not encounter lights turn off when you are still in the bathroom

or else just wait for RFID like TnG....we stick RFID sticker on our forehead....😂
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That means you cannot close door during shower smile.gif

Why not use turbine to generate electricity? When water flows out during shower, the turbine generate enough power to light up white LED light. icon_idea.gif
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post Sep 4 2018, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 4 2018, 10:02 AM)
It have 3 sensor into a dome cover. PIR, motion and light.

It only trigger when in the night. So it use light sensor.

PIR, motion for human. It have 130° angle sense.

But all this sensitive sensor depend on the surrounding temperature. But indoor might me more stable compare outdoor.
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Yes, the PRI is not really suitable for outdoor if the background (heat) varies a lot. The object heat maybe masked by ambient temperature. Need to use active motion sensor, but need to avoid if the surround has constant movement though.

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