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post Sep 4 2018, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ Sep 4 2018, 02:50 PM)
wah this thread suddenly got PIR war.. hehe

btw got any good stuff to buy from US?
my fren going there next month...
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It is brainstorming, not war. smile.gif
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post Sep 5 2018, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(kelembai @ Sep 4 2018, 09:06 PM)
so what are our solution now, maintain the sonoff
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Now you have a sonoff wireless wall switch that need the N line? What was your plan?

The other idea is to incorporate switch to door lock. Once you lock the door from inside the bathroom, the light will switch on. The light will be off once you unlock the door. Well, it is not a good idea to have 240V on the lock because your hand is wet. You can use low voltage to trigger a relay to switch on the light.

I have reservation on wireless control on bathroom light. The reason is why do you need to remotely on and off the bathroom light? Unless you are living alone, you can check from your phone if any light left on and switch the light off smile.gif You need to be at the bathroom to use it and you do not need to switch on the light 2 minute before reaching bathroom anyway laugh.gif

Do you have tool to do simple wiring, like having ladder to access ceiling wiring? There might be solution on how to use sonoff that require N without pulling N wire. Anyway, there are plenty of touch switch that require no N. In general, the one that can be wirelessly controlled one is just normal remote control (like ceiling fan) that use frequency like 433MHz. If the WiFi module is built in the wall switch, the switch most likely need the N wire because the WiFi need more power. The switch with zigbee module does not require N line mostly, for example the Xiaomi Aqara Light Switch.
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post Sep 5 2018, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(zzzhhhzzz @ Sep 5 2018, 08:00 AM)
guys.. what will be your suggestion on smart switches to control lights, fans and 20amp appliances ? I kinda like xiaomi aqara ecosystem with sensors etc.. but I dont like the look of their switches... Im looking at something with touch glass switches.. was considering broadlink switches also.. but it doesnt work with eWeLink app ? any recommendation ?
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I think there not many 20A touch switch out there and I've never seen one that can be wireless controlled. They are just normal touch switch.
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post Sep 5 2018, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(kelembai @ Sep 5 2018, 01:50 PM)
But i still need the sensor right if i use the the touch swich either wifi or 433 mhz to control the light on and off right when im enter the bathroom.
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If you remotely on or off your light, why you need sensor? You need sensor if you don't want to manually control anything, right? Like you have a camera in bathroom and when it capture you naked, it will switch the light on laugh.gif

You may just want simple sensor that detect the bathroom door. Each time the door is opened and closed, the light toggle from ON to OFF and vice versa. No need for remote or anything.
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post Sep 6 2018, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 6 2018, 08:24 AM)
later i try for you, let you know.....
i dun like the way it lawan each other - the door sensor wants to turn off, and the motion sensor wants to turn on
but who knows it might work. ive seen similar settings before and it works
ask luvox
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It has the problem with the sensor because if no movement detected, the light will be off.

Anyway, why do you need the door switch sensor? If you have human presence sensor inside the bathroom already, the door sensor would be redundant. When I go out from the bathroom, the human presence is no more detected and the light is off. No need for door switch, right?

I've been looking at the sensor and so far all the PIR sensor is actually motion sensor. Need a thermal sensor to detect body heat even if no movement like Omron D6T thernmal sensor. However, this is module level sensor. You need to have some basic knowledge to integrate into system.

https://www.digikey.my/-/media/Images/Produ...1b-5bf745ee501b
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post Sep 6 2018, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ Sep 6 2018, 10:05 AM)
i dont get it y need door sensor,
it doesnt make sense at all... since u jus wan to turn on the light.
a pir motion sensor will able to do it.

keep it simple!
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Since you enter through the door, why not just flick the switch on your way in. Make it even simpler laugh.gif
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post Sep 6 2018, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 6 2018, 11:05 AM)
ok tried liao - cannot work  laugh.gif

reason is your door sensor tells it to turn on lights when you open the door
then your motion sensor also tells it to turn on lights
and when you close the door, all tutup....haha  biggrin.gif
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After close door off but the motion sensor will not turn light on again if you shake your buttock? hmm.gif
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post Sep 6 2018, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ Sep 6 2018, 11:31 AM)
any recommendations for AC power PIR motion sensor.
i saw mostly need DC power..
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Indoor or outdoor?

If you just google PIR motion sensor 240V, you sure can find many. smile.gif
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post Sep 6 2018, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ Sep 6 2018, 12:21 PM)
for bathroom only...

any specific brand? i dont wan every 3month replace one kek
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https://www.lelong.com.my/360-pir-sensor-ce...8-11-Sale-P.htm

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post Sep 6 2018, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ Sep 6 2018, 12:21 PM)
for bathroom only...

any specific brand? i dont wan every 3month replace one kek
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 6 2018, 12:27 PM)
do give it a try and experiment
its very easy to setup one automation. can be done in a couple of minutes
sometimes i need to try and use it for a few days before i can see where is the problem and how to solve it
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Or the simplest is just to use something like this:

https://www.11street.my/productdetail/110v-...CFUWhjgodgvkENw
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post Sep 6 2018, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Sep 6 2018, 12:31 PM)
This one I saw in other places reviews got very bad comments. Better don't buy.
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I see. The one that built into LED light also review not good.

I think probably because the sensor got affected by heat from the lamp as they are close to each other, thus reduce sensitivity.


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post Sep 6 2018, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ Sep 6 2018, 12:48 PM)
yeah, not really suitable also

actually the pir motion sensor is use for 2 switch in one
1. light
2. exhaust fan

my other concerned is not enuf Amp to powerup both device.
and need to upgrade my fuse as well.
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Lamp and Exhaust Fan not much of a current. You want to upgrade fuse? You mean the MCB? The light MCB is 6A, right? I would not recommend it to change to anything higher. The wire in the wall is smaller than the 3-pin socket wire.

Roughly the 6A can carry 240 x 6 = 1400Va already
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post Sep 7 2018, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ Sep 6 2018, 12:21 PM)
for bathroom only...

any specific brand? i dont wan every 3month replace one kek
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After comparing PIR and microwave sensor, the microwave one is much better because it is not affected by ambient temperature like most cheap PIR sensor. Have a look at this:

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/360-degr...8&utm_campaign=[SSC-000000000000-00000-00000-0]:%20Smart%20Shopping%20Campaign&utm_term=[SSC-000000000000-00000-00000-0]:%20Smart%20Shopping%20Campaign_xxmo0000000at0000_c_pla-309746957645&adjust_tracker=t2v78t_5n20iw&adjust_campaign=1032211143&adjust_adgroup=54400014687_c_pla-309746957645&adjust_creative=309746957645_435695888_125142848&tracker_limit=1000000&ef_id=W5HLiwAAATfbGtNI:20180907005123:s

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/e27-micr...8&utm_campaign=[SSA-230000000000-00000-00000-0]:%20Top%20Furniture%20and%20Decor&utm_term=[SSA-230400000000-00000-00000-0]:%20Top%20Lighting_xxmo0000000at2304_c_pla-452269320600&adjust_tracker=t2v78t_5n20iw&adjust_campaign=1415046171&adjust_adgroup=55351307013_c_pla-452269320600&adjust_creative=452269320600_134836226_125131068&tracker_limit=1000000&ef_id=W5HLiwAAATfbGtNI:20180907005135:s
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post Sep 7 2018, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(Kiding @ Sep 7 2018, 01:24 PM)
My experience of using microwave sensor

Super fast detection, a slight movement such as moving your arm can trigger it
Almost no dead spot
It could interfere with 5Ghz WIFI
Can hide in the ceiling
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Yes. The microwave sensor will likely use either 2.4GHz or 5GHz same as WiFi router because it is unlicensed band. Unless you want to use your phone during shower ...... laugh.gif
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post Sep 7 2018, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(Kiding @ Sep 7 2018, 04:03 PM)
My microwave sensor installed in the bathroom and upstairs small living room, the one in the small living room has severe interference with 5Ghz WIFI, the entire upstairs network connection was like shit until I removed the sensor.

The bathroom one works perfectly, no interference at all.
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Have you tried to change the WiFi channel? I don't think the microwave motion sensor occupy the whole band. Probably your WiFi is occupying whole band?
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post Sep 7 2018, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ Sep 7 2018, 07:40 PM)
bro, how to calculate the load...
1. light 30W
2. ventilation fan 40W
3. water heater 3.6kW (forget to include this haha)

total would not more than 3.7kW, unless in the future i wan to include japanese toilet seat or cabinet lighting...

my MCB written 20A.
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The lighting MCB and the 3 pin socket MCB normally separated. The lighting MCB is normally 6A and the circuit supply 6 lighting points. The wire size is smaller than the 3 pin socket. The 3-pin socket uses 20A MCB and normally serves 2 sockets. These are standard practice.

If you add the two 13A sockets, it would become 26A but the MCB is only 20A. This is not a mistake. It is standards by TNB. If you power on both socket with same load, the max power each socket is only 10A smile.gif

Water heater usually has separate MCB is originally wired by developer. It has 20A also and power the heater switch alone. If 3rd party install, they probably just tap the power from 3 pin socket.
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post Sep 10 2018, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(WIS9000 @ Sep 10 2018, 01:05 PM)
wiring is a pain for me as i had a tough time closing the damn thing back into the wall junction box.
anyone planning to get this better take note that you either need to ensure that the wall cavity is large enough to fit this guy and also the thick cables already in the junction. Else, will need to be creative in organising those thick cables to avoid this unit when closing. Same goes for the other Aqara wall socket (china pins) with zig bee control function. Maybe China's junction boxes are deeper  hmm.gif
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Are you talking about the concealed junction box (black plastic) or on surface one. The concealed one can be located deep or shallow depending on how thick is the plastering. In my house some has longer screw than the others.

You do not want to cut wire too short because you can never elongate it in case you need it and short wires are even harder to work with. Long ... hard to tuck in everything in. I have at certain point put 3 wires because it is spurs socket.

One trick is to thin the insulator. The wires in the wall without conduit (or even with) are normally double insulated. You can remove 1 layer of insulator.
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Smarthings supports many devices. Here are good resource on how Smarthings can be used on Xiaomi.

http://www.mysmartcave.net/category/home-automation/
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post Sep 14 2018, 07:50 AM

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QUOTE(Kiding @ Sep 13 2018, 11:51 PM)
I believe most of the autogate is using momentary switch to trigger open/close gate, therefore, what you need is a normally open (NO) type relay that act as momentary switch.

I have a z-wave 12V DC NO type relay, and through smartthings device type handle, I customized it to become momentary switch, and I  connected the z-wave relay to the autogate PCB connector that connect to normal autogate switch, and it works perfectly.

sonoff relay is a good relay, but it cannot be used in autogate as momentary switch, because the relay input is 240V AC, when it turns on, the relay connect the 240V AC input to output, then it will fry the autogate PCB!
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https://www.chatteris.biz/blog/sonoff-basic...r-modification/
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post Sep 14 2018, 08:00 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 14 2018, 07:58 AM)
I think you need this - https://www.itead.cc/smart-home/inching-sel...ess-switch.html

But what’s the purpose? I don’t really understand cause your autogate already comes with a remote


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