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post Jan 7 2018, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 7 2018, 08:43 PM)
Can use custom firmware like ddwrt/openwrt to mimic those mesh feature?
Or it's exclusive for expensive routers like google wifi?
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I think there is no such thing available at the moment. Maybe in future, I don't know
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post Jan 7 2018, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Jan 7 2018, 08:45 PM)
Yes. TP is the cheapest. However, Asus now release firmware upgrade that allow many of its hardware to form mesh network even though they are not same model. This is very good since you can always ad more unit as needed. Visit Asus website.
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Those TP Deco M5 with the free 3 years anti-virus thingy - it should still work without anti-virus protection after it expires correct? i mean the router should still work fine on its own, just without any anti virus?
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post Jan 7 2018, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 7 2018, 08:43 PM)
Can use custom firmware like ddwrt/openwrt to mimic those mesh feature?
Or it's exclusive for expensive routers like google wifi?
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Actually most wifi router can bridge together to form seamless wifi access, I have one wifi router sitting on first floor and configured as bridge which connect to the main router.

both use the same WIFI SSID with same password, just different channels, my iphone/ipad can roam between these two wifi AP without losing connection.
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post Jan 7 2018, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jan 7 2018, 10:28 PM)
Actually most wifi router can bridge together to form seamless wifi access, I have one wifi router sitting on first floor and  configured as bridge which connect to the main router.

both use the same WIFI SSID with same password, just different channels, my iphone/ipad can roam between these two wifi AP without losing connection.
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Yeah, I'm doing the same time also, device usually just pick the stronger wifi signal. Just curious how much improvement mesh network does than regular repeater setup
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post Jan 7 2018, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 7 2018, 08:55 PM)
Those TP Deco M5 with the free 3 years anti-virus thingy - it should still work without anti-virus protection after it expires correct? i mean the router should still work fine on its own, just without any anti virus?
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I don't know much about TP. Did not own on. I'm still using the ori router that came with TM Unifi laugh.gif . However. like you said, it should work.
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post Jan 7 2018, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jan 7 2018, 10:28 PM)
Actually most wifi router can bridge together to form seamless wifi access, I have one wifi router sitting on first floor and  configured as bridge which connect to the main router.

both use the same WIFI SSID with same password, just different channels, my iphone/ipad can roam between these two wifi AP without losing connection.
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 7 2018, 10:37 PM)
Yeah, I'm doing the same time also, device usually just pick the stronger wifi signal. Just curious how much improvement mesh network does than regular repeater setup
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Repeater and mesh is two different things. Please note that Bridging is different thing altogether. Home consumer APs is not powerful. Thought it say can support so many client, but actually it will significantly bogs down probably after more than 6 clients. So, in repeater configuration, you will have no problem in home setup. If in office environment, it is not wise setup, You will better performance in mesh networking.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 7 2018, 11:56 AM)
Use mikrotik, is good.

Have budget use Cisco. I was using Cisco router, later move to mikrotik for house usage.
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Agree with u. I'm using Mikrotik since 2010 very very stable. Experience with the Google WiFi before. Mesh network if powerful have roaming function, blocking, filtering, guest wifi etc but if u attach to your existing network it will create a new segment ip address that will not routeable with your existing network. That will create another problem if u want to publish some of your equipment to external.

The beauty of the Mesh network no network cable require to extend your network except 1 cable use at primary equipment connect to your existing router. I will not go to 100% fully home automation. Will do maybe 30% to 40% only. The rest will use manually.

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post Jan 8 2018, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(meLi @ Jan 8 2018, 08:38 AM)
Agree with u. I'm using Mikrotik since 2010 very very stable. Experience with the Google WiFi before. Mesh network if powerful have roaming function, blocking, filtering, guest wifi etc but if u attach to your existing network it will create a new segment ip address that will not routeable with your existing network. That will create another problem if u want to publish some of your equipment to external.

The beauty of the Mesh network no network cable require to extend your network except 1 cable use at primary equipment connect to your existing router. I will not go to 100% fully home automation. Will do maybe 30% to 40% only. The rest will use manually.
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Another problem with using in-band wireless (or wireless in general) would be the remote AP will not have full speed if the wireless backhaul speed in low due to distance or obstruction.

You want to have good coverage but the signal is weak and the speed is only 15Mbps. Put another AP and backhaul through wireless. Then you have very good signal but the maximum speed would be still 15Mpbs laugh.gif
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 6 2018, 11:32 PM)
Depend, sometime ddos will reboot the router, crash the router, or halt the router and they can gain access. Or Maybe is just hardware issues

Anyway, I never like tp-link, d-link and many of the taiwan/china brand. TP-Link waste bandwidth. https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/tplink-aggressive-ntp
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TP-Link resolved the issue https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/ntplink-fixed


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Problem with smarthome now it depend on the fat network TCP/IP. The best will have to be on LoRa / LoRaWan or smaller tcp/ip footprint like MQTT. This can be use with radio frequency and not wifi frequency.

Like how the Wireless Alarm sensor, it can go far and battery last for 1-2 years, all still using low footprint radio frequency.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 8 2018, 09:54 AM)
Problem with smarthome now it depend on the fat network TCP/IP. The best will have to be on LoRa / LoRaWan or smaller tcp/ip footprint like MQTT. This can be use with radio frequency and not wifi frequency.

Like how the Wireless Alarm sensor, it can go far and battery last for 1-2 years, all still using low footprint radio frequency.
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People want to control their home in Penang from UK (Ulu Kelang) smile.gif
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post Jan 8 2018, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(meLi @ Jan 8 2018, 08:38 AM)
Agree with u. I'm using Mikrotik since 2010 very very stable. Experience with the Google WiFi before. Mesh network if powerful have roaming function, blocking, filtering, guest wifi etc but if u attach to your existing network it will create a new segment ip address that will not routeable with your existing network. That will create another problem if u want to publish some of your equipment to external.

The beauty of the Mesh network no network cable require to extend your network except 1 cable use at primary equipment connect to your existing router. I will not go to 100% fully home automation. Will do maybe 30% to 40% only. The rest will use manually.
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My Mikrotik is coming to 6th year now, i move from cisco 1841 to this, this because Mikrotik uses so much lesser energy than the 1841, and with wifi build in. Now hand itchy want to upgrade to the RB2011... waiting go below RM 500 smile.gif
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QUOTE(Zot @ Jan 8 2018, 09:57 AM)
People want to control their home in Penang from UK (Ulu Kelang)  smile.gif
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Still can, lorawan will have transit point into TCP/IP
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post Jan 8 2018, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 8 2018, 09:59 AM)
Still can, lorawan will have transit point into TCP/IP
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Yes. That would be additional devices I believe.
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QUOTE(Zot @ Jan 8 2018, 09:57 AM)
People want to control their home in Penang from UK (Ulu Kelang)  smile.gif
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What you want to control ?


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post Jan 8 2018, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 8 2018, 11:05 AM)
What you want to control ?
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I dunno. My house is as dumb. Maybe people want to switch on and off the light manually and surprised a thief in front for the door hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Zot @ Jan 8 2018, 11:12 AM)
I dunno. My house is as dumb. Maybe people want to switch on and off the light manually and surprised a thief in front for the door  hmm.gif
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I m finding at people idea, what they want to control when they are away.

I won't like to know my home if go for holiday. Deal it when coming back.
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guys how do you get MiHome app to display the Temperature, Humidity and Pressure on the app's Home page?

Nevermind found out the info is based on locations

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post Jan 9 2018, 10:47 PM

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Does anyone here own a Google Home Mini and is willing to swap with an Echo Dot?
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QUOTE(jerm @ Jan 9 2018, 10:47 PM)
Does anyone here own a Google Home Mini and is willing to swap with an Echo Dot?
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Can try this before use google home

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUuRa2rwJa0&app=desktop


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