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English Clubs Liverpool LYN Kop Talk v96, Happy 123rd Birthday, Liverpool!

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post May 1 2015, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(Rotuham @ May 1 2015, 03:13 PM)
After much thought,i think keeping brendan rodgers will be a better decision though it will be unpopular.Sacking and rehiring the entire backroom staff is gonna cost alot.That money is better used for transfers.
Rodgers has come out and said that he wanted marquee players but wasn't given the money.
I suppose that the owners also have to take blame.
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The problem is the manager is weak in identifying good players and the record of success in transfer speaks itself.

huh? Hundred million spent, that now complain was not given the money? shocking.gif




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post May 1 2015, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 1 2015, 04:33 PM)
The problem is the manager is weak in identifying good players and the record of success in transfer speaks itself.

huh? Hundred million spent, that now complain was not given the money?  shocking.gif
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Yes but his net spend was only about 35 million.Most of the money was recouped by suarez,assaidi and suso sales.Besides there is this stupid wage structure that are FSG don't want to break.

Rodgers wanted willian,mkhitaryan and costa type of players but was forced to shop at lower prices.
I don't absolve him of blame completely as he was responsible for the southampton shopping.

What i do think is that he will be targetting higher calibre of players if he was not restricted by FSG.
FSG are very shrewd and certainly should take blame.
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QUOTE(Rotuham @ May 1 2015, 04:40 PM)
Yes but his net spend was only about 35 million.Most of the money was recouped by suarez,assaidi and suso sales.Besides there is this stupid wage structure that are FSG don't want to break.

Rodgers wanted willian,mkhitaryan and costa type of players but was forced to shop at lower prices.
I don't absolve him of blame completely as he was responsible for the southampton shopping.

What i do think is that he will be targetting higher calibre of players if he was not restricted by FSG.
FSG are very shrewd and certainly should take blame.
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The manager bought 100 million plus of players, whether the net is how much or not doesn't matter.
Fact is 100 mil is given to be splashed.

When a manager spent 100 million and yet complaining no money was given for marquee signing, then it is the manager fault that unable to find good players in the transfer market.
The manager can sign a marquee signing of 60 million with the 100 mil war chest and still got 40 mil left for others.

Lallana, Lovren, Markovic already worth more than 60 million.

Mind that not a single signing (except Can) of last transfer window (that worth more than 100 mil) who can be proclaimed a permanent spot of starting XI.

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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 1 2015, 10:14 PM)
The manager bought 100 million plus of players, whether the net is how much or not doesn't matter.
Fact is 100 mil is given to be splashed.

When a manager spent 100 million and yet complaining no money was given for marquee signing, then it is the manager fault that unable to find good players in the transfer market.
The manager can sign a marquee signing of 60 million with the 100 mil war chest and still got 40 mil left for others.

Lallana, Lovren, Markovic already worth more than 60 million. 

Mind that not a single signing (except Can) of last transfer window (that worth more than 100 mil) who can be proclaimed a permanent spot of starting XI.
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Some will say la, Rafa also spend alot, a lot sweat.gif

Rafa may have some dud buys, but some of those duds were cheap and did become useful in some games. Rodgers fringe players duds is as cold as fishes from space



The ghost of Rafa's years is spooking/creeping into the hallways it seems.

Already there seems to be a campaign to "ill speak", or throw in negative PR about Rafa reign in Liverpoolfc...

http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2015/05/rafa...-a-big-mistake/

As much as I wished, I don't believe fsg will give him a chance. Klopp? Haha, I suspect man city may be far more interested in klopp than of mr rodgers. Hope you don't mind me saying brendan Rodgers I think you are still in FSG's plans, at least to continue next season.

I do believe you have already been busy preparing your alibi for this season should the review come after this season campaign ends. Probably reasons like see what u can make Liverpool achieve if u have marquee player in the mould of Suarez [cough]. Oh don't have to write that down as your one of the pointers, just copy n paste my point. I should think FSG will nod in favour of that point. sweat.gif

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post May 1 2015, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 1 2015, 09:14 PM)
The manager bought 100 million plus of players, whether the net is how much or not doesn't matter.
Fact is 100 mil is given to be splashed.

When a manager spent 100 million and yet complaining no money was given for marquee signing, then it is the manager fault that unable to find good players in the transfer market.
The manager can sign a marquee signing of 60 million with the 100 mil war chest and still got 40 mil left for others.

Lallana, Lovren, Markovic already worth more than 60 million. 

Mind that not a single signing (except Can) of last transfer window (that worth more than 100 mil) who can be proclaimed a permanent spot of starting XI.
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The problem here is that FSG dont want to pay above 100k per week for any player.They think that a player should earn it.Even suarez for all his heroics was only offered 200k per week if he stayed.
If going to 2nd from 7th in one season was possible with SAS,I dont see why rodgers won't get top 4 again next season if he gets the strikers he wants.The last thing the club needs is another cycle of rebuilding.
If they really have to pull trigger,then i hope they have already convinced klopp to sign before that.
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QUOTE(Rotuham @ May 1 2015, 04:40 PM)
Yes but his net spend was only about 35 million.Most of the money was recouped by suarez,assaidi and suso sales.Besides there is this stupid wage structure that are FSG don't want to break.

Rodgers wanted willian,mkhitaryan and costa type of players but was forced to shop at lower prices.
I don't absolve him of blame completely as he was responsible for the southampton shopping.

What i do think is that he will be targetting higher calibre of players if he was not restricted by FSG.
FSG are very shrewd and certainly should take blame.
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We went out of the group stage of the CL with only 1 win. Absolute disgrace at the Bernabeu. Disgrace at Besiktas. Disgrace against Villa. Nowhere near the top 4 and not even guaranteed a 5th place finish. Now, how much all of that is gonna cost us/has cost us? Not to mention, that stupid mouth Rodgers has. He's a circus clown when he starts talking. Go on, google Brendan Rodger's stupidest quotes. I'll get you started.

"Look at Tottenham, you spend over £100-odd million you'd expect to be challenging for the title" - Brenda "The Clown" Rodgers

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Hi fellow kopites.Anybody here already bought the ticket for liverpool asia tour 2015?
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QUOTE(Rotuham @ May 1 2015, 11:58 PM)
The problem here is that FSG dont want to pay above 100k per week for any player.They think that a player should earn it.Even suarez for all his heroics was only offered 200k per week if he stayed.
If going to 2nd from 7th in one season was possible with SAS,I dont see why rodgers won't get top 4 again next season if he gets the strikers he wants.The last thing the club needs is another cycle of rebuilding.
If they really have to pull trigger,then i hope they have already convinced klopp to sign before that.
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I don't buy the theory of cycle of rebuilding that needs at least 3-4 years to shape up the team.

Rafa won CL with first season in charge, although finished 5th, but after than consistently into top 4 position, and another CL final.

LVG only take half a season to turn the team around, from midtable team to 2nd.

If the manager is good and with money to spend, the team generally will show sign of improvement, it may not land the club a league title, as definitely not the like dismay performance like this year.

The team has gone backward that identical to 1st year BR in charge. 3 years rebuilding now back as same as first year, what kind of rebuilding is that?
Now the team basically need to rebuild again so not much different with new manager rebuilding.

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QUOTE(Rotuham @ May 1 2015, 03:13 PM)
After much thought,i think keeping brendan rodgers will be a better decision though it will be unpopular.Sacking and rehiring the entire backroom staff is gonna cost alot.That money is better used for transfers.
Rodgers has come out and said that he wanted marquee players but wasn't given the money.
I suppose that the owners also have to take blame.
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Sacking n rehiring gonna cost alot? Apparently they werent thinking of dat when they sacked KD n sign a midtable unproven manager no???

I see pace n youth in our players. experienced manager n coach wud know wutto do....BR dont. U want to sacrifice another year to give him a chance??? After 3 years given??? And next year wuts the excuse will be???

Will still be thinking abt the cost of sacking n rehiring???

No one is thinking abt wut it will cost liverpool fc in terms of reputation???

U treasures ur money more??
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QUOTE(maranello55 @ May 2 2015, 08:28 PM)
Sacking n rehiring gonna cost alot? Apparently they werent thinking of dat when they sacked KD n sign a midtable unproven manager no???

I see pace n youth in our players. experienced manager n coach wud know wutto do....BR dont. U want to sacrifice another year to give him a chance??? After 3 years given??? And next year wuts the excuse will be???

Will still be thinking abt the cost of sacking n rehiring???

No one is thinking abt wut it will cost liverpool fc in terms of reputation???

U treasures ur money more??
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Unfortunately as roturham has mentioned, brendan will use the SAS theory as be retained as manager for Liverpool next year (and beyond)

Though I highly doubt he can (even) manage a team like Real Madrid or Barcelona. When we say tactically naive, to him and some fans is tactical masterclass.

All the 12 run of staying unbeaten is rather stroke of luck in the series fixtures of teams we played against.


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QUOTE(swks26 @ May 2 2015, 09:29 PM)
Wot Rickie Lambert starting.
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QUOTE(swks26 @ May 2 2015, 09:54 PM)
Carloz, this you?

KOPTALK @KOPTALK
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QUOTE(maranello55 @ May 2 2015, 07:28 PM)
Sacking n rehiring gonna cost alot? Apparently they werent thinking of dat when they sacked KD n sign a midtable unproven manager no???

I see pace n youth in our players. experienced manager n coach wud know wutto do....BR dont. U want to sacrifice another year to give him a chance??? After 3 years given??? And next year wuts the excuse will be???

Will still be thinking abt the cost of sacking n rehiring???

No one is thinking abt wut it will cost liverpool fc in terms of reputation???

U treasures ur money more??
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Kenny was out of the game for too long.Not blaming him for that.Everyone was carried away by the honeymoon period.

Rodgers not only got back into the top 4 but he also challenged for the league.Certainly that is no luck.Rodgers has improved alot.He knows what it takes to win.He just doesnt have the players.
I am not a blind supporter of BR.I feel that he deserves at least another half season.

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