sometimes outsider more clear because not involved directly. same as in sometimes your friends or relatives can give better advice regarding your work or relationship than yourself coz they dont mix emotions, pressure inside etc...

hope allegri can realize the problem quick. dybala while good cannot carry an entire team all the time. opponents can find the flaw very quick because thats what they do. manage teams and analyze opponent weaknesses on a daily basis

This post has been edited by Jusstatic: Oct 20 2017, 02:46 PM

Indeed now Juve is quite one dimensional with focal point on Dybala/Pjanic. Bernadeschi/Costa should ramp up and replace Cuadrado/Mandzukic on their bad days.

I think it's up to Max now, he should play less mandzukic on the left wings and let Costa flourish there. Right side, Bernadeshi. Too bad we don't have reliable right back beside Leinchteiner.

indeed. problem is, their integration have been slow because allegri find them unable to defend. allegri's defense first, do not conceded at all cost mindset can cost us to win the big prize: the UCL. heck, it might now even be costly in the serie a as we are no longer rock solid in defense. coupled with our inability to attack well when facing a shutdown or a better opposition, we are looking at neither left or right

This post has been edited by Jusstatic: Oct 20 2017, 08:37 PM

Carlo seems like a good replacement for Juve..esp since we've waited very very long for the 3rd UCL trophy

Anyway, regarding the Juve-Sporting match, the best performers to me were Higuain, Mandzukic, Chiellini,

Higuain does everything upfront like opening up spaces, doing a one touch passes but often disappointed by Dybala/Cuadrado.

Mandzukic despite his winning goal, helping out the team to regain the ball as usual

Chiellini, no comment, the rock at the back as usual

Pjanic, despite his brilliant freekick equaliser, didn't do much to be fair, and losing the ball a few times

Matuidi and Costa were the impact subs. Matuidi bringing the energy to the midfield while Costa with an assist for a one of a few good cross in the match (Cuadrado couldn't cross to save his life though)

My pick for the flop of the match:

Sturaro - error lead to Alex Sandro's own goal (combined with Sandro's own mistake)

Dybala - didn't really contributed anything to the match. I think he just low on confidence at this time, a stark contrast to himself during the earlier of the season. 2 crucial PK misses really got to him. I think a goal or two would gave us our "Dybala" back

There is a reason why he cant perform. I doubt its 100% due to low confidence. See my previous posts. I did analyze a few things regarding our players and allegri tactics. Players not played properly cant perform hence led to low confidence. May not be totally right but i think there is some truth to it

This post has been edited by Jusstatic: Oct 21 2017, 06:11 PM

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khedira!!!! hat-trick!!

game over

Pjaniccc for 6!!!!

wow. which team were playing with a man down?

Juve just show her true colors after Mandzukic got dejected. Just confirming how much potential Juve have on breaks and set piece though.

But what a way for Khedira to silence his critique. Mandzukic need a break for a while. Buffon still does what he knows best.

Anyway Juve might want to stick to the yellow kit for a while. seems black & white is not giving much luck

my thought exactly

even with 10-man, this Juve didn't sit back and absorb the pressure a-la Max's style like we usually do. Instead we go all out pressuring Udinese for the ball
and hit em from the counter. This is the Juve we want to see. Not stopping after leading but keep on going for the goal bcoz we've the kind of player capable of doing that.
One of em is Costa who was an impact sub last night

and yes, the two players who always on the receiving end of Juve's critique were the standout performers last night

Khedira & Higuain

and i agree Costa should be starting on the left instead of using Mandzukic. Too much "grinta" were bad for him considering he got a "silly" sent off last night

Wow, I am at a loss for words.

I saw that we were leading 2-1 then Mandzukic got sent off, and I thought that was it.

Went to sleep, then suddenly woke up at 2am for no reason. Since I couldn't sleep immediately, i decided to check the score.

I literally took a double take on the scoreline as I didn't believe my eyes. Immediately checked out the highlights and wow...like everyone else is saying, this is the Juve that's been missing since the start of the season.

I really hope this game is our turning point this season. Down a man and yet we scored 6 goals. Although our defence really needs to plug the holes and Khedira did pretty well on many occasions last night.

by my observation Juve got everything "right" last night, hence why they'd triumph even with a man down

1. Cuadrado with an actual decent cross (assist to Khedira 1st goal)
2. Higuain did well as a "back to the goal" type of striker
3. Khedira excel in his "Marchisio-esque free roam role", instead of his central-mid role
4. Rugani starting over Barza/Bena - a goal, an assist, solid showing. That's like a hint for Max, "Start me!"
5. Comical defensive error that lead to vital first goal for Juve
6. Juve actually scoring 3 goals from set pieces alone - a usual problem of Juve
7. Effective - Juve scored 6, with only 5 shots on target, one an own goal. Also a trouble of Juve, usually creating 20 chances to score 1
8. Didn't stop at 3-2 or 4-2, instead going for more, also "uncharacteristic" of Juve. This is the best trait of the night

haha SERIE A looks more goal feasty now and I like it its a shame both astro and hypptv got no SERIE A live 4 many years

yeah i like point number 8. we didnt sit back after taking a 3 - 2 lead. i hope this is not a one off game and allegri will tell the team to soak up and sit back after taking a lead in our next game. i feel we must push on from here and tear teams apart from here on. strike fear in opponents. winning 1 nil or 2-1 will not strike fear in anyone. winning 6-2, 7-1 will. even barcelona or a real madrid will fear us if we consistently tear teams

This post has been edited by Jusstatic: Oct 24 2017, 05:44 PM

their lost

sitting back approach is a gamble game. At 3-2 the game can go to 3-3 or 4-3

with the offensive approach the match could ended 4-5 or 4-6...but do it right it could ended like 5-2 or 6-2, like we did against Udinese

we are more open, and getting easy to score on, but still we can outscore our opponent

earlier this season i'd say this Juve would score more while conceding more compared to last season, evidence when currently we're the top scoring
team in Serie A. And most of the signing suggested (Costa, Berna to name a few) we're transitioning to be a more offensive side. So, why didn't Juve
played to their strength instead?

expected a makeshift lineup tonight

--------------Szczesny-------------
Lich----Barzagli---Rugani---Asamoah
--------Khedira----Bentancur-------
---Berna------Dybala-------Costa---
--------------Higuain--------------

but still on paper we're favorite to beat SPAL. I hope there no such crap as "Allegri cruising mode" of "showing respect to opponent"
after leading 3-0 or such

who the F care about such silly respect? Juve should go for SIX again tonight

allegri is finally playing to our strength by fielding costa, berna, dybala and higuain all at the same time. 4-1 win. i think we are quite good in attack but defensively we need o improve

we need to be like the treble winning bayern side. monster in attack, superb at the back too unlike last season our backline was superb but rather blunt in attack. this is especially costly in the CL

hope we continue our goal scoring run

This post has been edited by Jusstatic: Oct 26 2017, 08:44 AM

but sadly it took Mandzu's red card for him to played both Costa & Berna at the same time

well, we're getting there if we keep on playing to our strength like this. I don't mind conceding 2 goals per match, even 3, as long as we outscored them by 4 or 5

it was nice game, but juve tend to control the match as if bonucci was still playing with juve. pjanic always need to drop deep and distribute the ball otherwise the ball will just be played by the defenders.

anyway still good attacking game by the forwards. costa & cuadrado looking sharp. if we have this kind of attack when pirlo was still around, juve will shred other teams to pieces ...

anyway, the defence splitting pass by marchisio for the last ruled out goal, juve really need more of those. pirlo lobbed pass was even better, but pin point vertical ball like that was fun to watch.

hello barca, we can pass like you ...

This post has been edited by zaidi: Oct 26 2017, 01:51 PM

Its always looking good when Marchisio playing "Pirlo-role"

while Khedira playing "Marchisio-role"

as of now both Marchisio & Pjanic are 2 best passer of the team, and with the midfield healthy they should keep rotating between em along with Matuidi, Khedira & Bentancur, with
Sturaro as the last choice

anyway, some facts after last night

- after 10 matchdays, Juve scores 31 goals in the Serie A, no team has done that since 1951

- last season, Juve only scored 21 goals after 10 matchdays, so i stand by my prediction that Juve are transitioning into a more offensive team this season

- Juve tied with PSG and 2nd behind Man City in goal scored in the league rank in the Europe Top 5 league, with Juve & PSG already played 10 matches while others 9
1) Man City (32 goals)
2) Juventus & PSG (31 goals)
3) Barcelona (26 goals)
4) Bayern (25 goals)

This post has been edited by noir7559: Oct 26 2017, 02:58 PM