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valho
post Mar 24 2015, 03:21 PM

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Since FCOB going to be on DF maybe food/pots will see decent sales as more people go into FCOB.

That's the reason I got all the i70 Artisan gear now, except all the main-hand, so that when 3.0 comes my crafters are decently gear for 3.0 crafting biggrin.gif

As for the crafted Artisan yeah definitely will drop price, ehcati market already drop a lot.
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post Mar 24 2015, 05:19 PM

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Maybe a good time to go sapu all the cheap mats like cashmere, sauron, scheelite, raziqsand or petrified log. During launch it was like 150k each. now 20g, 18g for petrified log and 800 for cashmere.. doh.gif

Gamble. who know one day suddenly cashmere naik demand naik harge sell 80k. If cannot... then 800g x 100 = 80k gil use go make cashmere cloth donate to orphans in ARR.
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smile.gif i request this topic to be pinned ;D
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post Mar 24 2015, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(shojikun @ Mar 24 2015, 05:21 PM)
smile.gif i request this topic to be pinned ;D
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Oh wow. Its pinned. Thanks shojikun. And the fellow mod who did it biggrin.gif

Can already see some active crafters here who are willing to share ideas and dilemma what to craft nowadays. lol. Nasib baik ARR tarak GST... Already so low margin. If not existing 5% + 6%.... how to survive sweat.gif

Anyway my culinary is the only up to 3 star only. Used to do Button in a blanket and devilegg but stopped there to focus on other 4* DOH. Any reco for good and fast moving 4 star culinary food please? I assume Tank class food sell faster than DPS maybe? Any top chef here please share some insight. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Poodlepaddly @ Mar 24 2015, 06:05 PM)
Can already see some active crafters here who are willing to share ideas and dilemma what to craft nowadays. lol. Nasib baik ARR tarak GST... Already so low margin. If not existing 5% + 6%.... how to survive sweat.gif
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Are you kidding me.... ARR always had permanent 5% GST since launch.
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post Mar 24 2015, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(kurogane @ Mar 24 2015, 06:43 PM)
Are you kidding me.... ARR always had permanent 5% GST since launch.
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Just a joke brah. Although maybe the right way of saying it should be

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Anyway lets not go there further. Got lots of angry mobs on this issue lately. lol

Tips for new crafter when buying DOH materials in MB: When buying from market board, check the city of the retainer. If you buy the item in the same city state, you wont get 5% tax. Only the seller. Example if the item seller's retainer is in Limsa, port to Limsa and buy it from there. This is crucial especially if you want to buy a crafting material which is 100k-200k ea in bulk to craft something etc.

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post Mar 24 2015, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(Poodlepaddly @ Mar 24 2015, 07:09 PM)
Just a joke brah. Although maybe the right way of saying it should be

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Anyway lets not go there further. Got lots of angry mobs on this issue lately. lol

Tips for new crafter when buying DOH materials in MB: When buying from market board, check the city of the retainer. If you buy the item in the same city state, you wont get 5% tax. Only the seller. Example if the item seller's retainer is in Limsa, port to Limsa and buy it from there. This is crucial especially if you want to buy a crafting material which is 100k-200k ea in bulk to craft something etc.
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Should remember, anything sold by retainer has 5% tax regardless of city or buyer. Thats the Eorzea GST biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Poodlepaddly @ Mar 24 2015, 05:19 PM)
Maybe a good time to go sapu all the cheap mats like cashmere, sauron, scheelite, raziqsand or petrified log. During launch it was like 150k each. now 20g, 18g for petrified log and 800 for cashmere..  doh.gif

Gamble. who know one day suddenly cashmere naik demand naik harge sell 80k. If cannot... then 800g x 100 = 80k gil use go make cashmere cloth donate to orphans in ARR.
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If the mat price is that cheap go and see if you can flip the crafted mat for a good profit. Never underestimate the laziness of people.
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post Mar 25 2015, 11:29 AM

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Anyone have a good rotation to craft turn-ins for masterbook 1 and turn-ins for artisan gears?

This is the gear i have http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/6039017/

Only CUL have artisan main-hand.
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post Mar 25 2015, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(valho @ Mar 25 2015, 11:29 AM)
Anyone have a good rotation to craft turn-ins for masterbook 1 and turn-ins for artisan gears?

This is the gear i have http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/6039017/

Only CUL have artisan main-hand.
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Hi Valho,

Lunch hours, but I will see what I can do for you. lol.

First of all, I don't plan to reinvent the wheel coz someone else already has written a fairly detail guide for this. Might as well just redirect you to his/her blog. (with proper crediting of course)

2nd, there is no one absolutely best way to achieve this. Coz regardless how perfect one thing his/her routations is, there are bound to be ppl coming out to say theirs is better. So the better approach is that we can just get the rough idea or approach what other players are doing, experiment yourself and see which method fits you.

Here are the link by a player: Shana's routation guide suggestion

Suggestion:
All these depends on your gears. As your craftsmanship will affect how many Careful Synthesis II that you need to complete the progress. (maybe not so much in a 40 durability items) But the overall idea for 40 durability items are Steady hand II > Hasty touch X 3 times. And refresh the durability back to 40 with master mend 1. Use TOTT when good condition appear as often as u can and you might land your self an extra 30 durability with master mend again, assuming you have at least 56 CP left by the end of 20 durability to do Great Strides > Blessing Breygot. (Or some might argue 74 CP to go Great strides > Innovation > BB etc etc) The only thing I do not use in compare to the above link is manipulation. As mentioned, end of the day, its your own preference. I have seen forums with ppl arguing up to 60 pages just because one disagree with another crafter's routation. Possitive at start, but by page 50 all the remarks became defensive and out of topic. Take the guide as just a guide, and explore your way to your own DOH journey.

Food Recommendation: bouillabaisse (CP + 34)
Others: Reco you meld your current militia offhand. Or get an artisan offhand if you can. The artisan offhand's stat boost (with or without meld) will help you greatly. Either buy it off MB or craft it yourself if you just want your own shirt/gear label. lol
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post Mar 25 2015, 02:47 PM

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Thanks, yeah I use it as a guide as I know players will always says their is better, so it's best to understand how it work and use it as a guideline. I will check it out after work.

I will try to meld my off-hand, I been slacking on the meld after I melded both my rings haha.
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post Mar 25 2015, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(valho @ Mar 25 2015, 02:47 PM)
Thanks, yeah I use it as a guide as I know players will always says their is better, so it's best to understand how it work and use it as a guideline. I will check it out after work.

I will try to meld my off-hand, I been slacking on the meld after I melded both my rings haha.
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Don't bother melding militia offhand, you'll cry later because the Artisan offhand is a massive upgrade.

Highly suggest to get Artisan offhand (no need meld) if you can afford, your gears are quite decent enough already.

For Masterbook 1, those are pretty easy to make now. You can just use the 338 CP macro with some HQ mats and it should be fine.

Aim for Artisan main hands after you get the masterbooks.
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post Mar 25 2015, 07:37 PM

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Basically the general advice is to just move to current end game artisan if possible. But if gil is a constrain (often for those who just started doh), use what you have and slowly unlock the crafter recipe. Depends on server, some crafting material has drop down to 4k per craftsmanship III material. Skip if can, if not just make use of whatever is available onhand, and get the funding for end game artisan.

The launch of artisan has allow new crafter to skip through many tier of grind. Some can even create a second alternate character and boost lvl 1 to 50 then straight to 4 star in 1 day. But all these depends on how many kaching $$ you have in your pocket. Do it at your prefer pace Valho biggrin.gif
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post Mar 25 2015, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(Poodlepaddly @ Mar 25 2015, 07:37 PM)
Basically the general advice is to just move to current end game artisan if possible. But if gil is a constrain (often for those who just started doh), use what you have and slowly unlock the crafter recipe. Depends on server, some crafting material has drop down to 4k per craftsmanship III material. Skip if can, if not just make use of whatever is available onhand, and get the funding for end game artisan.

The launch of artisan has allow new crafter to skip through many tier of grind. Some can even create a second alternate character and boost lvl 1 to 50 then straight to 4 star in 1 day. But all these depends on how many kaching $$ you have in your pocket. Do it at your prefer pace Valho  biggrin.gif
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Yup, but still don't bother melding on a militia gear... the artisan offhand is a must, might as well save ur gil and spend on the artisan instead.
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post Mar 25 2015, 10:24 PM

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ok thanks for the advice, will work on getting masterbook 1 for those artisan off-hand, I been saving bunch of oakknots biggrin.gif
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post Mar 25 2015, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(valho @ Mar 25 2015, 10:24 PM)
ok thanks for the advice, will work on getting masterbook 1 for those artisan off-hand, I been saving bunch of oakknots biggrin.gif
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Can bang on blacksmith masterbook if you wanna craft your own artisan off hand. Blacksmith can craft most artisan offhand in game followed by carpenter. Used to be a money making class during 2.5 release. laugh.gif

Out of curiosity, how many gils did you guys manage to farm from DOH? blush.gif
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QUOTE(Poodlepaddly @ Mar 25 2015, 11:20 PM)
Can bang on blacksmith masterbook if you wanna craft your own artisan off hand. Blacksmith can craft most artisan offhand in game followed by carpenter. Used to be a money making class during 2.5 release.  laugh.gif

Out of curiosity, how many gils did you guys manage to farm from DOH?  blush.gif
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That's one way too. Just make sure to have artisan main hand at least to craft the offhand.

As for my total gil amount... i only started serious crafting in 2.4. Estimate about 30mil-ish earned.
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post Mar 26 2015, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(kurogane @ Mar 25 2015, 11:56 PM)
That's one way too. Just make sure to have artisan main hand at least to craft the offhand.

As for my total gil amount... i only started serious crafting in 2.4. Estimate about 30mil-ish earned.
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Nice. Enough to buy yourself a large house already Kurogane. Can enjoy your own garden own bed room biggrin.gif

Cant remember when I started. Maybe 2.3. When started the time poor as hell. Want buy crystal also no money. lol. Have to sell own body gear and any unused weapon to npc just to fund that lvling 1-50. sweat.gif No one on my fc was crafting also last time. We are bunch of poor buggers. lol
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QUOTE(Poodlepaddly @ Mar 26 2015, 12:08 AM)
Nice. Enough to buy yourself a large house already Kurogane. Can enjoy your own garden own bed room  biggrin.gif

Cant remember when I started. Maybe 2.3. When started the time poor as hell. Want buy crystal also no money. lol.  Have to sell own body gear and any unused weapon to npc just to fund that lvling 1-50.  sweat.gif No one on my fc was crafting also last time. We are bunch of poor buggers. lol
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Ehh Mansions are impractical. I spent 7mil buying a cottage in The Goblet that has MB right in front of it. Much more worth since it's practically a teleport to Market Board.

My FC has two 4-star crafters, me and another officer luckily. Now just saving up for 3.0 airship stuff. Don't want to go thru the 70mil fund raising treasure hunt marathon I did for my FC back in 2.1 to buy a mansion again.
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QUOTE(kurogane @ Mar 26 2015, 12:27 AM)
Ehh Mansions are impractical. I spent 7mil buying a cottage in The Goblet that has MB right in front of it. Much more worth since it's practically a teleport to Market Board.

My FC has two 4-star crafters, me and another officer luckily. Now just saving up for 3.0 airship stuff. Don't want to go thru the 70mil fund raising treasure hunt marathon I did for my FC back in 2.1 to buy a mansion again.
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Lucky you got kaki crafter. biggrin.gif

My side here solo crafter in a small fc. Some of the fellow crafter I tried to train all gave up coz of the grind. sweat.gif Guess DOH really needs a lot of patience and some economy insight.

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