Hi. Did a search for crafting thread. There is one but last reply was 2 years ago and no longer active. I hope its allright to start a fresh thread. Just want to contribute to the crafting community. If no, then the taikos here please just let me know.

Final Fantasy A Realm Reborn has a unique crafting system that we seldom see in majority MMO titles we played before. Some of us started off with a random crafter class, with just a simple crafting window with durability and quality number. We never tot what started out as a simple craft, can lead to other more exciting crafting items and mechanism that we can use or sell in the market board. With every patch there are more and more 2, 3 and 4 star items being added. New glamour, new armor, new weapon, accessory, furnitures and so forth. And the recipe will be more complicated when Heavensward is released.

Im not good in writing good opening, but hope can see some positive discussion btw the discipline of hand on the current patch, DOH tips that you want to share, how RNGesus destroy or make you rich (lol..), market experience that you have encountered, or your personal experience in crafting in FF ARR. It would be great to have a place to chit chat those market board and economy experience and give new breath to the crafting world in FF ARR.

This post has been edited by Poodlepaddly: Mar 23 2015, 07:27 PM

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This post has been edited by Poodlepaddly: Mar 23 2015, 07:00 PM

Any active crafters out there? Regardless of 2 or 4 star. Maybe to get the ball rolling, you can share a little details of your crafting experience, regardless of entry crafter or end game crafter. Or how long have you been in the crafting side of ARR. Im seeing more and more new crafters name in MB in my world lately. DOH seems to be popular thing for new players. Market board is like stock market everyday.

This post has been edited by Poodlepaddly: Mar 23 2015, 07:15 PM

Heres some random 2 gil for armorer. Anyone else have other please do help to add..

Leveling 1 - 50
Do those ingot items that u can buy mats and spam under quick synthesis. Ranging from Iron ingot, steel ingot, etc till cobalt ingot. Lvl 1 - 30 you can try spam quick synthesis for afk lvling. Assuming u already have the cash to buy those relatively cheap mats. Lvl 30 onwards u can try spam leve for quick exp boost. Lvl 30 leve is on costa de sol, lvl 35 is in coerthas highland South, and lvl 40 in coerthas highland, west. Getting to lvl 50 shouldn't be much issue. And you are probably a new lvl 50 armorer already.

Note: Most armorer crafting materials are related to blacksmith. Example 3 star armorer recipe uses wolf ingot (crafted by blacksmith) or 4 star armor recipes using woots ingot (crafted by Blacksmith). So if you want to focus on armorer to craft armors and gears, BSM is the secondary class you should consider.

Once you reach lvl 50, your next goal will be on upgrading your crafter gears and open your door to master crafting. I am not sure what is your current progression on armorer. But if you just reach lvl 50, focusing on getting the gears first (head, body, gloves, belt, legs, feet, offhand etc etc). Either you want to do i55 crafter gears or get straight the i70 artisan gears. Your goal is to reach a minimum 451 craftmanship and 407 control to enter the 4 star crafting arena. All this depends on your gil on hand budget or if you have friends/fc ready to support you etc. Supra and Lucis main hand is something you need to consider, if you plan to focus on a DOH class in the long run..Let me know if you want me to detail out the route to get lucis.

Engaging market board - Armorer
Armorer main source of gil income is as the class says, making armors. atm 2 star armor (i70) are really not in demand as its easier to skip those lvl in our current patch. There is relatively low demand now for i90 wolfframe armors (depends of world), but still a good demand for woots armor. Depending on your curremt DOH gears (minimum 451 craftsmanship and 407 control for 4*) If you have the gears and tools, go straight to 4 star and work on the i110 woots armor now. Armorer opens your door to crafting armors mostly for Dragoon, tanker class. Tank armor usually sells faster (depends on world) I do not have my ps4 to check the name list now, but in general tank helm, chest, gloves, feet etc sells pretty fast in my world. The cost for allagan woot and woots ore should be cheap to buy and convert to finish goods to be sold in MB.

Thanks Shojikun.. I remember I pm you a year ago on how to start FF ARR. How time flies, one year already. lol. I believe you are in Masamune legacy world since the beginning right? Too bad we are in different world. But am glad we are able to discuss here even though there is a world barrier.

This post has been edited by Poodlepaddly: Mar 24 2015, 07:54 AM

Haha true. Margin has been a concern since patch 2.5. Undercuting is nothing new to the crafter's world. But it has gone so intense lately that ppl are undercutting to below COGS. Example It cost 600k to make something. After all the undercut it sells for 680k. Minus 5% tax that's 646k only. Lot of work to prepare the premats for crafting those 4 star like Artisan Apron, Ebony bow, Platinum accessory just to earn 30-50k (situation depends on world) I believe its safe to say that market board is like a PVP arena everyday in all server.

The grind for ehcati sealant... that same turn in quest over and over again everyday.. I rather just drop the profit margin and buy straight from daily sellers. Assuming you don't have the spare time to run the 6 Ehcati quest everyday. Damn ehcati, lol.

Haha. Guess we are encountering the same crafter situation. Its been 6 months since 2.5 is release, and another 3 months till heavensward is launched. At the moment artisan forager, i110 armor/weapon, acc, even down to furnitures's profit are not so attractive anymore. Worst when RNGesus fails you with 8 failed hasty touch, and all your ehcati or Battelcraft Demimateria becomes a NQ item.

I did most of the DOH except culinary. IDK, just not my calling. lol. Maybe time to tutup kedai and go open a restaurant selling raid food... Looking at the trend many ppl trying to tackle end game raid more nowadays. Maybe can capitalize on that trend.

Anyway, did you guys realize in Heavensward, all DOH class get their own crafter gears? This means artisan's lifespan is only till end of 2.51 perhaps. I predict the demand for artisan/forager will drop further as we come closer to Heavensward. This will also affect the ehcati's market. What do you think?

Maybe a good time to go sapu all the cheap mats like cashmere, sauron, scheelite, raziqsand or petrified log. During launch it was like 150k each. now 20g, 18g for petrified log and 800 for cashmere..

Gamble. who know one day suddenly cashmere naik demand naik harge sell 80k. If cannot... then 800g x 100 = 80k gil use go make cashmere cloth donate to orphans in ARR.

Oh wow. Its pinned. Thanks shojikun. And the fellow mod who did it

Can already see some active crafters here who are willing to share ideas and dilemma what to craft nowadays. lol. Nasib baik ARR tarak GST... Already so low margin. If not existing 5% + 6%.... how to survive

Anyway my culinary is the only up to 3 star only. Used to do Button in a blanket and devilegg but stopped there to focus on other 4* DOH. Any reco for good and fast moving 4 star culinary food please? I assume Tank class food sell faster than DPS maybe? Any top chef here please share some insight.

Just a joke brah. Although maybe the right way of saying it should be



Anyway lets not go there further. Got lots of angry mobs on this issue lately. lol

Tips for new crafter when buying DOH materials in MB: When buying from market board, check the city of the retainer. If you buy the item in the same city state, you wont get 5% tax. Only the seller. Example if the item seller's retainer is in Limsa, port to Limsa and buy it from there. This is crucial especially if you want to buy a crafting material which is 100k-200k ea in bulk to craft something etc.

This post has been edited by Poodlepaddly: Mar 24 2015, 07:11 PM

Hi Valho,

Lunch hours, but I will see what I can do for you. lol.

First of all, I don't plan to reinvent the wheel coz someone else already has written a fairly detail guide for this. Might as well just redirect you to his/her blog. (with proper crediting of course)

2nd, there is no one absolutely best way to achieve this. Coz regardless how perfect one thing his/her routations is, there are bound to be ppl coming out to say theirs is better. So the better approach is that we can just get the rough idea or approach what other players are doing, experiment yourself and see which method fits you.

Here are the link by a player: Shana's routation guide suggestion

Suggestion:
All these depends on your gears. As your craftsmanship will affect how many Careful Synthesis II that you need to complete the progress. (maybe not so much in a 40 durability items) But the overall idea for 40 durability items are Steady hand II > Hasty touch X 3 times. And refresh the durability back to 40 with master mend 1. Use TOTT when good condition appear as often as u can and you might land your self an extra 30 durability with master mend again, assuming you have at least 56 CP left by the end of 20 durability to do Great Strides > Blessing Breygot. (Or some might argue 74 CP to go Great strides > Innovation > BB etc etc) The only thing I do not use in compare to the above link is manipulation. As mentioned, end of the day, its your own preference. I have seen forums with ppl arguing up to 60 pages just because one disagree with another crafter's routation. Possitive at start, but by page 50 all the remarks became defensive and out of topic. Take the guide as just a guide, and explore your way to your own DOH journey.

Food Recommendation: bouillabaisse (CP + 34)
Others: Reco you meld your current militia offhand. Or get an artisan offhand if you can. The artisan offhand's stat boost (with or without meld) will help you greatly. Either buy it off MB or craft it yourself if you just want your own shirt/gear label. lol

Basically the general advice is to just move to current end game artisan if possible. But if gil is a constrain (often for those who just started doh), use what you have and slowly unlock the crafter recipe. Depends on server, some crafting material has drop down to 4k per craftsmanship III material. Skip if can, if not just make use of whatever is available onhand, and get the funding for end game artisan.

The launch of artisan has allow new crafter to skip through many tier of grind. Some can even create a second alternate character and boost lvl 1 to 50 then straight to 4 star in 1 day. But all these depends on how many kaching $$ you have in your pocket. Do it at your prefer pace Valho

Can bang on blacksmith masterbook if you wanna craft your own artisan off hand. Blacksmith can craft most artisan offhand in game followed by carpenter. Used to be a money making class during 2.5 release.

Out of curiosity, how many gils did you guys manage to farm from DOH?

Nice. Enough to buy yourself a large house already Kurogane. Can enjoy your own garden own bed room

Cant remember when I started. Maybe 2.3. When started the time poor as hell. Want buy crystal also no money. lol. Have to sell own body gear and any unused weapon to npc just to fund that lvling 1-50. No one on my fc was crafting also last time. We are bunch of poor buggers. lol

Lucky you got kaki crafter.

My side here solo crafter in a small fc. Some of the fellow crafter I tried to train all gave up coz of the grind. Guess DOH really needs a lot of patience and some economy insight.

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This post has been edited by Poodlepaddly: Apr 18 2015, 09:13 AM

Hi Valho,

Its okay to start off poor. Most of us did, in fact all of us started the game with our first 120gil quest reward. (Actually I dont think you are poor. From the character profile you showed us, you have almost lvl 50 all DOW/DOM. That shows richness in determination) But whether you are a newly started or experience crafter, its always great to have a place where you can share your DOH queries with others.

New crafter will have entry questions which experience crafter can show a little tips and skip those unnecessary road block. Of course not to the extend of putting everything on a silver plate. Its better we give you a fishing rod than a lominsa anchovy.

Old and experience crafter might have questions and theories to share as well. Its good to have a good network with crafters with similar interest (starting or end game). Sometime I learn new things from crafters from different FC, Sometime they pm me, sometime I pm them, even though we are sworn undercutter enemies in mb. Such situation comes rarely. But when you have 2-3 strong crafters in the server who aren't reluctant to share information, update prediction (forecast) and sometime joke about the undercutting we do everyday, overtime you will notice you will progress further than the solo crafter do-not-disturb approach.

Most of the MMO I played I do not engage the end game much. (I used to chase, till I notice the short life cycle on end game progression by every patch) It is the economy that im interested in. Its a good training ground to learn about market place. But its good to meet people like you, Kurogane and the rest.

Note: No idea what to craft nowadays. Hope to see some input.

Good lead Kurogane. Not sure about fishing, used to be able to desynthesis for waterproof cotton for coeurl bikini under LTW crafting. But there many ppl buying different kind of 3-4 star fish in mb. Maybe this is something we can do before heavensward is released.

Juts finished a Friday night casual crafting and market board price pvp. The market in most world is really saturated nowadays, Reco we try to spread out the items we craft not in just one but multiple category, like artisan DOH gears, forager DOL gears, armors, accessories, furnitures. Nowadays I find the platinum accessory are a fast moving trend. Especially the Platinum fending and healer accessories. Something to consider I guess.

This post has been edited by Poodlepaddly: Apr 4 2015, 03:29 PM

Any leads on the specialty system for DOH in 3.0? No one will have exact info as SE will keep it secret till launch day. But from what 1.0 predicted, it would be something like all class to lvl 60, but only 1 or 2 class can specialize and go beyond that lvl?

Yeap. As usual Se will not reveal much about the patch updates till patch day. But from what i predict, the specialization and the skill gain will only allow you to craft the unique item in that class itself. Example BSM for its high tier ingot. You might still need a specialization in Arm to craft out the end product. But without BSM specialization, you wont have the mats. In a way they want us to create a interactive community btw players to network on business. Nothing is confirm atm. So these are just speculation and guessing. But from what i heard, this should be somethign similair to the crafting in 1.0.