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waja2000
post Mar 18 2015, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Mar 18 2015, 07:24 AM)
RM150 Million budget authorized for the Malaysian Fire Department to buy new heavy helicopters

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Wonder how many Mi-171 helicopters RM150 Million can get? hmm.gif
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well thlatest Mi-171 v5 (latest with glass cockpit) price about usd 19 milion+. RM 150 million about 40 milllion usd, should able to get 2 unit. but i dont think they will get new mi-171. other possible is 1 unit AW189 cost about 30 million or AW101 about usd 40 million, if Bomba want get advance heli off couse AW101 much better choose.

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post Mar 18 2015, 09:30 AM

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Dutch AH-64 crashed in Mali
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The U.N. mission in Mali (MINUSMA) said two Dutch airmen were killed in a AH-64 crash in the north of the country on Mar. 17.

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Captain Rene Zeetsen, 30, was killed in the crash and First Lieutenant Ernst Mollinger, 26, died later in a field hospital in Gao from his wounds.

The helicopter was taking part in an exercise conducted by the Dutch contingent about 42 km north of the town of Gao.


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post Mar 18 2015, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Mar 18 2015, 09:24 AM)
well thlatest Mi-171 v5 (latest with glass cockpit) price about usd 19 milion+.  RM 150 million about 40 milllion usd, should able to get 2 unit. but i dont think they will get new mi-171. other possible is 1 unit  AW189 cost about 30 million or AW101 about usd 40 million, if Bomba want get advance heli off couse AW101 much better choose.
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I don't think advanced types are what the Jabatan Bomba is looking for, just a heavy-haul helicopter for transport purposes.
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post Mar 18 2015, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Mar 18 2015, 09:39 AM)
I don't think advanced types are what the Jabatan Bomba is looking for, just a heavy-haul helicopter for transport purposes.
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depend Bomba requirement loh, how much equipment want to install like FLIR, lights, SAR etc, AW101 event can include advance firefighting bag inside heli so can use to put down fire during forest fire.
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Mar 18 2015, 09:54 AM)
depend Bomba requirement loh, how much equipment want to install like FLIR, lights, SAR etc, AW101 event can include advance firefighting bag inside heli so can use to put down fire during forest fire.
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Probably later, now Bomba concentrating on heavy haul to handle emergency situations like annual floods and stuff like that. Currently no indication they are looking for dedicated SAR or firefighting helicopters.

If Bomba is looking just for medium-capability helicopters, I think can get at least 3-4 with that RM150 Million.

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post Mar 18 2015, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Mar 18 2015, 10:06 AM)
Probably later, now Bomba concentrating on heavy haul to handle emergency situations like annual floods and stuff like that. Currently no indication they are looking for dedicated SAR or firefighting helicopters.

If Bomba is looking just for medium-capability helicopters, I think can get at least 3-4 with that RM150 Million.
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ya, but not much heavy helicopter in market, mostly Mi-26 or Chinook ... biggrin.gif
Mi-26 T2 version (glass cockpit) cost usd 20-25 million. chinook cost about usd 40 million.

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Mar 18 2015, 10:19 AM)
ya, but not much heavy helicopter in market, mostly Mi-26 or Chinook ...  biggrin.gif
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Wah not that kind of heavy la bro. biggrin.gif

I think if Jabatan Bomba wants heavy haul helicopters, they should look for more Mi-171s to add to the current fleet. Not Mi-8. mind you.
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post Mar 18 2015, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Mar 18 2015, 10:25 AM)
Wah not that kind of heavy la bro.  biggrin.gif 

I think if Jabatan Bomba wants heavy haul helicopters, they should look for more Mi-171s to add to the current fleet. Not Mi-8. mind you.
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thailand get Mi171v5 in price usd 17 million each if not wrong in 2012/13
well not sure can get more mi-171 or not or bomba want more mi-171 or not, bomba mi-171 also force to use (get from ex-polis heli) due to can't get register by DCA due to lack of international body certification mi-171 heli. although final get register but get limited fly if not wrong.

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Mar 18 2015, 10:34 AM)
well not sure can get more mi-171 or not, bomba mi-171 also force to use (get from ex-polis heli) due to can't get register by DCA due to lack of international body certification mi-171 heli. although final get register but get limited fly if not wrong.
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Huh, that's a weird problem if it involves a government helicopter. If private owner get this problem can probably understand la, but government?

I thot if menteri say OK, then things will be OK? laugh.gif

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Huh, that's a weird problem if it involves a government helicopter. If private owner get this problem can probably understand la, but government?
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at the end, i think Bomba still go to AW heli i think.
unless new contender china Avicopter AC313 Helicopter, about 13 tons. with P&W engine.

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Mar 18 2015, 07:24 AM)
RM150 Million budget authorized for the Malaysian Fire Department to buy new heavy helicopters

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Wonder how many Mi-171 helicopters RM150 Million can get? hmm.gif
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2 units according to Marhalim's article.

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A little gloss was added to the show today through the courtesy of the Fire and Department of Malaysia when the director-general Datuk Wan Mohd Nor Ibrahim announced that they had received the approval for the procurement of the two “heavy weight” helicopters.


http://www.malaysiandefence.com/?p=6123
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Russia’s air corps is a powerful but fading force

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Sixty deadly stealth fighters might sound like a lot. But the U.S. plans to build 2,400 F-35s during the next two decades, and has already started delivering them. That’s on top of the U.S. Air Force’s 187 operational F-22s already in service.  Which means Russia’s most advanced planes will be heavily outnumbered.  Meanwhile, the rest of the Kremlin’s fleet will just keep getting older.


http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015...t-fading-force/

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post Mar 18 2015, 11:56 AM

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OMG enough of the wall of text, bro....my eyes are strained as it is. doh.gif
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Mar 18 2015, 11:56 AM)
OMG enough of the wall of text, bro....my eyes are strained as it is. doh.gif
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Hehe sori on mobile using select all. Adjusted just 4 u
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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Mar 18 2015, 11:51 AM)
Russia’s air corps is a powerful but fading force

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http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015...t-fading-force/
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Very informative insight
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QUOTE(RabbitS @ Mar 18 2015, 12:09 PM)
Very informative insight
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Not that surprising. Even in its heyday, SU air force could have never reached NATO levels of air superiority.
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Mar 18 2015, 12:39 PM)
Not that surprising. Even in its heyday, SU air force could have never reached NATO levels of air superiority.
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That the reason why their air defense system is much more advance and in large quantity compared to us and other western equivalent
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RAFALE Fighter Demonstration Day 1 at LIMA 2015.


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LIMA: Malaysian maritime patrol battle heats up

By: Greg Waldron Langkawi

8 hours ago

Maritime patrol and surveillance were the most prominent themes of this year's LIMA show, as big manufacturers jockeyed to promote their various solutions for the mission.

Industry sources say that Kuala Lumpur is in the process of crystallising a requirement for six to eight long-range maritime patrol aircraft (MPA).

The potential requirement attracted attention from a range of companies including Boeing, Saab, Dassault, and Indonesian Aerospace.

Boeing brought its Maritime Surveillance Aircraft (MSA) technology demonstrator to the show. The type appeared on the static line, and the US airframer briefed media and officials on the MSA's capabilities. A modified Challenger 605 business jet, the unarmed MSA is optimised for high altitude, broad area surveillance.

Saab, Dassault, and Indonesian Aerospace also displayed models of MSA and MPA solutions on their stands.

This is a significant change from the last iteration of the show in 2013, when the only company to actively promote an MPA aircraft was Alenia Aermacchi in the form of its ATR 72MP, a variant of the popular ATR 72-600.

Indonesian Aerospace, which has put forward its CN235 MPA, said it is working on mounting torpedoes under the aircraft's wings - an Indonesian navy CN235 appeared at the show's static line.

It is also looking at ways to add two torpedoes in a recessed cavity under the CN235 MPA's fuselage, which would give the type the ability to carry four torpedoes. It adds that the aircraft's ramp is useful for dropping life rafts and other survival essentials.

For a country with a long coast line and extensive economic interests at sea, Malaysia has limited maritime surveillance capabilities. It operates just four King Air 350 aircraft in the maritime surveillance mission.

Events in recent years have highlighted the growing importance of the maritime domain in Southeast Asia. In early 2013, Kuala Lumpur was caught off guard by the incursion of 200 Filipino gunmen in Malaysia's eastern state of Sabah, which resulted in an armed confrontation with Malaysian military forces. Kuala Lumpur eventually crushed the interlopers with artillery, air strikes and ground forces, but the incident highlighted the vulnerability of Malaysia's long coastlines.

In addition, Beijing is becoming increasingly assertive about disputed territorial claims in the South China Sea, obliging countries such as Malaysia, Vietnam, and the Philippines to improve their ability to monitor the ocean domain away from their shores.


http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/...eats-up-410283/

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