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post Mar 12 2015, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Mar 12 2015, 01:22 PM)

how do we read the kill marking?

1 fat bomb
2 skinny bombs

what does this means?
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Means you need to strengthen your Google-fu. Sometimes such basic things are available on the Interwebz.

Anyway, V16 thread here I come. laugh.gif

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post Mar 14 2015, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Mar 14 2015, 09:52 AM)
Indonesian Navy's Newest Oceanography Ship - KRI Rigel. Photos by Christophe Dedieu.

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For a moment there I thought u were referring to the ship on the left. laugh.gif

Mistrals looking good, though. Seems 100% finished, just waiting for delivery.
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post Mar 14 2015, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(bereev @ Mar 14 2015, 03:34 PM)
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tapi hanger belum siap  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Sumbat je mana-mana hangar laugh.gif
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post Mar 15 2015, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(OvenBaked @ Mar 15 2015, 09:22 PM)
Dat new combat shirt looks good
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Not so durable tho. Torso part made of thin polyester to absorb sweat, not much diff from polyester t-shirt, so its easy for the fabric to start to pill and tear from all the rubbing against a hard tactical vest after a short while.

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post Mar 15 2015, 10:46 PM

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Full protection of Relikt heavy ERA system for T-90 series MBT

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post Mar 15 2015, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 15 2015, 10:51 PM)
concept of ERA inside a ERA tongue.gif
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Donno if it's true, but I heard Relikt and the newly developed Kaktus heavy ERA systems are actually semi-auto reactive armor. The ERA explosive charge detonation sequence is slaved to a radar system that detects incoming projectiles. So instead of the ERA explosive charge exploding at the moment a HEAT or armor piercing charge hits it, the Relikt system detonates the ERA explosive charge a fraction of second before the projectile actually hits the armor, nearly doubling the effectiveness of the ERA explosive charge.

Also, the explosive charge inside a Relikt ERA block is not a single bloch of explosives, rather, it is actually a collection of small shaped charges that concentrated the explosive charge to enable it to destroy an attacking DU kinetic energy penetrator.

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post Mar 15 2015, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Mar 15 2015, 11:06 PM)
tanks have radar now? dayummm  sweat.gif
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What era have you been living,bro?
Nowadays some tanks have active hard-kill protection systems like Arena and Rafael, it all depends on radars. laugh.gif

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post Mar 15 2015, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 15 2015, 11:11 PM)
Hemm turning it into active protection? Would be interesting to see it couple with improved ARENA system under tank protection
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That's why. I read somewhere a while back that the Relikt ERA blocks are actually command-detonated by a computer via a radar system, that it is not a reactive system, but now I can't find the article anymore. doh.gif

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post Mar 15 2015, 11:33 PM

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Russian documentary on Arena hard-kill APS



It's in Russian, but wat the feck, we're here to see explosions!
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post Mar 16 2015, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(minizian @ Mar 15 2015, 11:59 PM)
So that means whoever human are nearby they will be affected by the active protection? I was expecting some machine gun shooting at it ala Phalanx CIWS doh.gif
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Normal ERA also will have this explosive effect on surrounding infantry, so whatever system in use it doesn't look so good for infantry. laugh.gif

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post Mar 16 2015, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(minizian @ Mar 16 2015, 12:16 AM)
And if i disable the radar array the active protection will be as good as useless?
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Most likely, but in any case the APS system will probably be backed up with ERA or composite add-on armor. Even if the system doesn't work anymore the inactive APS explosives themselves can function as an ERA explosive block. It is still an explosive charge.
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post Mar 16 2015, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Mar 16 2015, 12:21 AM)
Depends on what active protection system it is
Some aps like the russian devil eyes can detect enemy atgm laser painting them and flood the direction the laser is coming from with some sort of light wave to confuse the laser seeker
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That one passive defense system. Shtora IR jammer to be exact. Not an APS. Although the best part is the system will automatically aim the turret at the area where the laser is detected, giving immediate response capability.

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Any info whether Malaysia has any tube-launched ATGMs that go with Pendekar's 125mm gun?
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post Mar 16 2015, 10:42 AM

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damn doublepost

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damn triple post, internet is wonky....can mod delete this? waste of space only.

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Mar 16 2015, 12:03 PM)
I dont think our fcs can support
But i heard can be upgraded to support
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Another case of 'fitted for but not with'? laugh.gif

Tube-launched ATGM can possibly expand the battle ranges of the PT-91 to 5000 meters.
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Mar 16 2015, 12:37 PM)
Msian land contour topology line-of-sight rarely exceeds 3-4km, although its a nice thing to have atgm is much more suitable for less conspicuous platform like the g-wagon
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Good point, Malaysia not exactly premier tank combat terrain. Small ambushes here and there by 1-2 tanks or small ATGM teams are more likely than full tank-on-tank brawls.

Malaysia should really consider to expand lower-level infantry anti-tank and ATGM capabilities, take advantage of local terrain.

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Mar 16 2015, 01:07 PM)
Also did you know the tanks are also trained for non-line of sight fire support? like a short range artillery support
The effective firing range is 10-11km, more or less same like our oto melara cannon range
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Of course can la, as long as can elevate gun can fire indirectly, but IMHO wasting la, HEAT rounds not very explosive for artillery duties, unlike pure HE rounds. If carry HE rounds in autoloader takes precious space which can be used by APSDS and HEAT rounds. T-72 can only carry 22 rounds in ammo cassette due to large sized 125mm round and propellant.
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Residents of Konstantinovka, in government-held Eastern Ukraine riot after a Ukraine army armored vehicle crashes into pedestrian sidewalk, killing 2 people including an 8-year old girl

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A freak road accident involving a Ukrainian armored personnel vehicle that killed an 8-year-old girl escalated into a series of riots in Kostantynivka, Donetsk Oblast, on March 16.

The accident took place at around 3 p.m. in the center of the city of 95,000 residents. The armored vehicle lost control on the road and hit the little girl, her aunt and her baby cousin. The aunt received heavy injuries and was taken to a local hospital, but the baby was not injured, according to the Ukrainian authorities. The aunt later died in the hospital.

The accident sparked riots and reports of gunfire in the city, where many residents do not welcome the Ukrainian authorities and troops. According to some reports from the ground, Ukrainian military installations were surrounded by angry residents and barracks were set on fire, but Kyiv Post has not been able to get an independent confirmation.

The Ukrainian authorities have said the soldiers who drove the military vehicle have already been detained. The driver was said to be driving erratically and is said to have fled the accident scene in a taxi.
“When investigation ends, those who are guilty will be severely punished,” Ukraine's Defense Ministry said in a statement. “Moreover, commanders will be held responsible for absence of proper control.”

Meanwhile, videos of unrest in Kostyantynivka have become viral in social networks. Most of them showed people shouting in the streets and fires burning. The local office of the interior ministry said protesters burned tires in the streets. Local media has accused local authorities of authorizing the use of live rounds to disperse rioters, but no confirmation has been received.



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RM150 Million budget authorized for the Malaysian Fire Department to buy new heavy helicopters

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The Malaysian government has authorized a RM150 Million budget for the Malaysian Fire Department to buy new helicopters for its air fleet. The planned helicopter purchase will be in line with the planned future plan of the Fire Department. The Fire department is interested in seeking more heavy multirole helicopters to help expand its rapid response capabilities. Meanwhile, the Russian export firm Rosobonexport is said to have already started negotiations with the Fire Department on possibly supplying more Mi-171 helicopters.

On a related note, 2 Mi-17 helicopters have been transferred to Miri Fire Department to to help deal with haze and bush fires that may possibly spring up due to the current hot & dry weather.

Wonder how many Mi-171 helicopters RM150 Million can get? hmm.gif

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