the reports are out! latest from hardware.fr about component rate of returns:

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/954-1/taux...posants-15.html

notably, ssd section (ssd is still the component that has the least return rate since years ago, compared to other components like ram, hdd, mobo, gpu, psu, etc.):

top brands - samsung and intel are coming back (last report it's kingston that leads all others)

Samsung 0,20% (previously 0,28%)
Intel 0,27% (previously 0,34%)
Crucial 0,28% (previously 0,42%)
Kingston 0,29% (previously 0,26%)
Sandisk 0,62% (previously 0,56%)
Corsair 1,67% (previously 2,02%)

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/954-7/ssd.html

there are some more ssd information in the conclusion page, too.

lol! this is bad

what are the models?

nice

sandisk ssd plus.

no they are below 1% (0.20% for samsung ssds; for hdd, seagate is at 0.70%). the main point of this report is for purchase reference only.

.. ssd with that size will be expensive; samsung 850 evo 4tb is almost 7k. you can do a lot of things with that money lol! (i think i will get titanx instead hahaha!)

Exactly.

These days the price for some pc parts is just ridiculous here. It's better to spend money elsewhere

yes, of course.

you can use ram cache for all drives (2 to 4gb each with romex primocache). it's another level of smoothness hehe

this is so nice.

i checked lelong just now; there are only 2 sellers over there. retail shops still has no sign of them yet :/

the price is still high now. they are just released.

imo use pro for work; for home/gaming use, 960 evo is one of the best choices now (until competitions take over, or 950 pro drops price) tbh, not many people can actually use up all that speed at home, and we already know for gaming, even sata ssds perform similarly to boost load time.

only when i am doing work with desktops at home. my laptops are old; running sata ssds only hahaha

for new laptops i still wait for something nice; maybe after all planned upgrades for desktops are completed. actually my laptops are still capable and good enough for work.

edit: rumors said gtx1080 is dropping price in some regions; that should mean one thing: a new card is coming out


This post has been edited by horns: Dec 21 2016, 06:07 PM

nice! the wait is finally almost over

when i see comments like that i just skip ahead. i have friends that insist on calling certain ssd models ram-based storage (while a quick search for datasheet immediately revealed that they're flash-based/mlc-based pcie models). i then realized things like facts do not exist in their world. it's best to let them learn by themselves.

woho sweet! finally and now you make me feel very itchy

yeah it's better to get better options when budget permits.

for normal use, intel 600p is a budget ssd that is much better than sata options if you go 512gb or above, even if the writes are low. however in terms of performance, especially technologies used (nvme in this case) it's really better to get something that make fuller use of it. tbh dropping from peak to almost sata speed after slc cache used up is kind of a turn-off, but it's really ok for normal use if the price is right.

Nice to hear someone who can share practical comparative results of these units in real world use

It all boils down to budget, work purposes, and personal preferences eventually.

This post has been edited by horns: Dec 27 2016, 01:27 AM

that's cheaper than i thought in sg. thanks for the tip

i use vm for work and they are at least 40gb per set; better options are still those with sustained r/w speeds. for normal use however i think 960evo should be perfect

950/960 pro is of 5-year warranty, while 960evo is 3. the only version that has 10-year warranty is 850 pro.

a lot of sellers don't really read specs properly from official sources. it's always better double check to confirm.

edit: off topic: it's finally here; hopefully nvidia's ces 2017 keynotes tomorrow bring us good news about 1080ti

This post has been edited by horns: Jan 3 2017, 03:55 PM

yeah i agree that it's not easy to manage sales involving pc components, however i also think it's important for sellers to get at least the key specs right, so that they don't confuse consumers right away.

competition is always good for us consumers. currently gaps between competitors and intel/nvidia is kind of huge, and most consumers will probably continue to choose the sides with better stability and performance. (unless these competitors make something more worthy to have)

nice; thanks for this

to think about pcie ssd actually can be obtained at such an affordable price today is kind of cool i must say. a few years ago this thing was only available at enterprise, and they are expensive.

i also found used fusion-io pcie 2.0 x4 drives that were about 10k+ in USD per piece a few years ago, but now selling super cheap at ebay. these drives are used, and use old techs, some are like over 1pb written after years of use; but compared to their rated endurance (some up to 10pbw), they're still a good deal. note that these drives are meant for storage only, not as boot drives. (they're unbootable in most cases)

fusion-io was acquired by sandisk.

if you need one asap, just grab it. if not, you can wait until you really need it, then grab whatever new ones in the market

oh ok

the most obvious difference is 850 evo has 5-year warranty (or 75tbw) while savage has 3 (or 113tbw).

for normal use, longer warranty support might be a good option. (it's not easy to get to 75tbw in 5 years under normal use)

for entry-level ssds, the bottom line is that under normal use, it should be better than a typical hdd. from reviews this ssd uses tlc nand, and has a good read speed but a very low write speed. (which should be fine under normal use)

it's an external drive. you should look for internal drives, even if you use sata2 only.