Yes i am aware of the automatic head parking in hdd. Imo that tech alone just help minimize risks, but still not enough to resolve anything else which cause failures due to the mechanical nature of a hdd. Again, the comparison between ssd and hdd is relative, not absolute. Both are susceptible imo.

Most consumer ssds in retail market are without power loss protection. The real question is: how many of us actually had issues due to sudden power loss because of this missing feature? If it's that susceptible like you described, i think it will become a common issue by now, and no one will really wanna spend much on ssd to get into troubles later on.

As for tlc nand, imo as long as you're using it within their limits, they will work well. If you wanna do heavy stuff, choose something with good mlc. Also, 960 evo has bad ass speeds. It uses tlc.

Performance degradation will always happen with time. For ssd, it's about what it can still achieve when it's in the steady state. Tlc will definitely not be as good as mlc, but it's not really that bad also. I still use 840 evo in one of my laptops. From time to time i run filebench just out of curiosity. The speeds are still 450+MB/s after about 3 years of usage. Yes i don't have experience about drives other than samsung tlc drives, so i could be very wrong when you talk about tlc models from other brands.

S900 is a rebrand of plextor m6s. Component wise they are the same (controller, toshiba mlc nand, etc.) Actually what happened to liteon s900 was similar to reports about plextor m6s. What went wrong? No one had the answers unfortunately.

It's kind of disappointing to learn that things didn't work well post-m5 (my plextor m5pro and m5m are still good in my old laptops)

nice; it's about endurance ratings of intel's enterprise ssds.

.. and now i know my old s3700 400gb might live a longer life than my future builds.

nice man

i'm still waiting; hopefully they will land here very soon.

off-topic: these days we have to wait more patiently than ever. i first thought of getting stuff from evga a few days ago, then there was this news about their gpus had vrm issues due to lack of thermal pads in those areas. they do have mid plate that covers the vrm, but i read that they didn't put thermal pads between those chips and the plate? wow.

for those who wanna mod their gpu with nzxt g10 and aio water coolers (gpu core temp is always under 50c with loads; i did this with my gtx 980ti), make sure your gpu has a metal mid plate to help dissipate heats from memory and vrm chips (or you can also buy third party heat sinks, and put them on top of the chips) not all manufacturers put mid plate to cover these parts (due to stock cooler designs) (eg. asus strix 980/1080; well, many don't have mid plate)

some will tell you it's ok without additional heat spreaders, because the chips can withstand high temperatures like 125c. while it's true in general, don't listen to them.

yes it's really become a risk to adopt early now. luckily recent cases were still ok; at least manufacturers admitted product faults and keep their promises. what i dislike most is manufacturers spitting out excuses and not to honor their part of bargains.

i think your zotac model should be fine because of its large cooler and fans. i'm considering the same model if i wanna use air.

those were results of bad plannings and brainless purchases :/

wow zotac is not bad eh? i should check it out later.

well hopefully everything will be fine for you after this. to me i think manufacturing these days are too fast-paced; their deadlines to reach markets are damn short. i'm not sure if this affects qc in general. sometimes i also wonder why they can build and distribute goods so fast, yet almost all of them fail to do a good rma hehehe

well, as long as it's faster than hdd. intel 530 is not a bad drive compared to many new ssds within same range today. it's just that we had better options at the time of purchase only.

yes, the point of having a mid plate is to cool parts that get heated quickly. thermal pads must be in place to make sure proper contacts are maintained between the plate and components to be cooled.

oh they're chokes? from thermal images, they labelled the hottest areas as vrm. all in all, i just hope experienced manufacturers like them can build things without taking away basic stuff like thermal pads and heat sinks.



sources:
http://www.tomshardware.de/nvidia-geforce-...e-242137-2.html
https://nl.hardware.info/nieuws/49734/overv...biedt-oplossing

yes now i agree about simplifying stuff for convenience hehe (if you asked me to point out which chip is what, i honestly cannot tell hahaha!)

imo evga did it right; however if they did it right during production, there is no such fuss now. cost cutting is a good practice in business, just don't cut the wrong one because doing so will have side effects.

yeah exactly, especially they pay good money for these gpus.

1. speed wise, maybe it's not noticeable to you (because this is depending on your usage), even though samsung 750evo should be faster than crucial m4 in many areas;
2. if it's still working fine, its speed is still ok for you, and you don't need larger capacities than 128gb, then it's ok to wait.

ok haha

hopefully the fluctuation will get stable soon. i have some upgrade plans very soon too; can get more stuff if the value of our money is better hahaha!

i have 2x crucial m500 960gb in a laptop, mainly for storage purposes (op at 25%). in terms of performance it's good for my usage; so far i haven't faced any problems with them after 3++ years of usage. myr1k is cheap; when i got mine it's like 1.8k each.

er there is no sata ssd with nvme support. most nvme implementations are using pcie.

from my previous review readings about patriot hellfire, for common user workloads it should be the better option (it was said to priced cheaper than competitions). honestly, any pcie x4 nvme ssd will run at jaw-dropping speed compared to sata-based options. (os bootup, running applications and games should be relatively faster)

however for work purposes, i still pick samsung and intel.

yes, mainly because of that. for casual/personal use on the other hand anything goes hehe

yeah the feeling is not bad tbh lol

yeah that's why for game libraries i still rather use larger capacity sata ssds

haha

if you don't need anything immediately, it's better to wait.

840evo is still decent. (in general anything mainstream that is younger than samsung 830 should work fine for many years to come) it can still be used as dedicated application drive, or an external storage (with an usb type-c enclosure)

Nice; I have some 850evo 250gb m.2 for laptops. I have no complaint so far

yes i have samsung 850pro 512gb; the relative differences are consistent speed when transferring large files in 850pro without rapid mode, and its 10-year warranty hehe (for its relatively better endurance).

other than that they are about the same for normal usage.

edit:

Samsung NVMe Driver 2.0

http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minis...load/tools.html

.. and they must be in a hurry until skipping qc for proof-reading:




This post has been edited by horns: Nov 21 2016, 08:21 PM

hehe yeah let's hope for those super large capacity ssd. by then, i guess most of us are running full-ssd computer setups

For the relative comparisons between hdd and ssd, it really depends on which areas you are looking at.

I still think hdd is a better choice for long term storage (large and cheap; that means you can do multiple backups with different physical disks). On the other hand, you can carry ssd around without worrying about data loss even if you drop it hehe (depending on how you define durable)

For my personal use i mostly use wd.green (mainly for storage and archiving only; multiple copies). For my usage with hdd, which is light, it's ok eventhough green is one of the slowest. I do apply ram cache for those i access frequently. For downloads i use wd.black. The rest is in ssd.

Haha hopefully. Hdd is slow for today's personal computing. However it's still good for data storage