basically the optimal pc setup today is ssd (os, apps, games) +hdd (downloads, data). the system can leverage on their strengths, and they cover each others' weaknesses.

optimally we should move storage out of our pc/laptops, e.g. nas or an old computer as file server in a local network, or usb-based external storage (turn it on only when you need it; don't do 24/7), and perform sync/backups regularly. since the pc is a minimalist setup (e.g. 1x or 2x ssd, and/or 1x hdd) it brings many benefits as well, e.g. boot faster (less hardware connected to it); easier to maintain; in such cases as malware attacks, recoveries are much quicker, and you can help prevent most of your data from getting affected.

multiple data backups (especially the important ones, encrypted or not) are always king. no matter how careful we are, shit do happen.

of course hdd is still the better choice for storage.

No I didn't forget about cloud storage. I only use them for storing encrypted data. Because of the limited internet bandwidth here usage is less than good.

Nice for 850 pro it should last you for a while.

I just come here to share my limited experience and stuff that i have learned about ssd. If i said anything wrong, please correct me. If you think my comments and suggestions are not good enough, please ignore them. I'm fine haha

All in all just pick whatever you think suitable

I do agree that samsung's fix for 840evo is not perfect. However i only applied it once. It's been a while and its performance is still good, and its health is still at 100%.

Just grab one. Any pc will benefit from ssd. Even an old i3 laptop can be more responsive with it.

uh? just don't always think about it lol

i think it's cheaper to get it from indonesia (from the price that you shared with us).

So nice :/

I am going for pro 512gb first too; then wait for 1080ti. Again, patiently :/// the ram part will be later. For now 64gb is still good

I hope so haha; now i mainly play at 1440p with a 60hz 4k gsync screen. the wait is really no joke. It's been many months :/

Yeah 128gb is my target, so that i can run vms with more ram for each of them. For personal use, 32gb is more than enough. (Value ram or not is not important, the size is)

This post has been edited by horns: Dec 1 2016, 11:52 PM

there is no need to envy anyone my friend. just get one when you really need it.

a funny point made by empire23 lol! there are other things in life that always matter more than a piece of consumable electronics in your computer. relax

so that's where your money goes; on the brighter side, at least you still have fun lol

for 240gb-range drives under myr250.00, there is one oem sale thread:

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4122898

also, it's better to have an ups for your computer if it's a desktop. it's not just your ssd that is at risk.

I'm not sure how to check the exact age of a ssd. I usually use search engines to find out release date, data sheet, etc. However with crystal diskinfo you can check the power-on count and hours.

most smart utils (unless otherwise specified) were designed mainly for hdd, not ssd. it's possible that some important attributes were interpreted incorrectly by them. more modern, actively-developed disk information tools like smartctl (part of smartmontools), hdd guardian (gui for smartctl; https://hddguardian.codeplex.com/), or crystal diskinfo can provide more accurate results. however the best way to determine your ssd's health is still using ssd tool set provided by the ssd manufacturer. (if they cannot tell us the true ssd status of their ssd, i don't know what else can)

to be safe, yes back up data regularly.

Samsung Magician 5.0.790

http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minis...load/tools.html

New Samsung Magician features a number of improvements over version 4.9.7:
- Completely re-designed and more intuitive user interface
- New Models support : Samsung SSD 960 PRO, 960 EVO
- System Compatibility guide
- SSD model specific feature installation system: only required feature components are installed and updated

yeah that i forgot all about it hehe; ahci actually still works even though samsung magician showed otherwise.

it's a samsung oem ssd.

there is a relatively significant performance gap between crucial mx300 and samsung 850 evo technically, but for normal use, including programming and gaming, i think it's good enough.

for those who are waiting for samsung 960pro, here we have something to read about the imminent throttling, and how to prevent it:

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/...Throttling-868/

nope not yet; i think it's next year. just relax

yeah haha i hope so too

just reformatted mine last weekend; also took sm951 out of pcie adapter, cleaned the chips with alcohol and applied a little thermal paste on them; so far it never exceed 40c under my workloads (usually stay around 36c); will change the thermal pad as well when new ssd is available.

Corsair SSD Toolbox 1.2.4.7

http://softwaredownloads.corsair.com/Files...1.2.4.7_WIN.zip

This software allows you to update the firmware of some Corsair SSD but also get many technical information about SSD as model, serial number, capacity, the firmware version or the SMART data. It also allows to clone the SSD to another drive and perform a complete and irreversible deletion of data. Finally, to optimize the performance of SSD in planning the implementation of the TRIM command.

Crucial Storage Executive 3.38.102016.07

x64: http://www.crucial.com/wcsstore/CrucialSAS...tive-win-64.zip
x86: http://www.crucial.com/wcsstore/CrucialSAS...tive-win-32.zip

This software allows you to update the firmware of Crucial SSDs, check with useful information about the system (physical memory/virtual available, OS, IP address), view details of SSD (total capacity/available model, serial number, interface type, firmware, driver, health), to consult SMART monitoring data, erasing the SSD (Sanitize) or remove the encryption keys (PSID Revert).

This software uses a web interface but can also be executed in the command line interface (msecli.exe).

G.Skill Phoenix Blade Drivers 2321

http://www.gskill.com/Download/Driver/Phoe...river_r2321.zip

G.Skill Phoenix Blade Drivers Version 2321. - Drivers Phoenix Blade PCIe SSD Driver for Solid-State Drives (SSD) G.Skill Phoenix Blade 480 Go (FM-PCx8G2R4-480G) and Phoenix Blade 960 Go (FM-PCx8G2R4-960G). Supported OS: Windows 7-8-8.1.

Updates:
- Update of the Windows 8 / 8.1 driver in version 11.45.26.108.
- Update of the driver Windows 7 in version 11.45.2.360.

check out garage sales here; there are plenty of good deals there for 240gb range sata ssds. (some are of professional grade too)

edit: just do cod if you're not comfortable.

This post has been edited by horns: Dec 20 2016, 03:23 AM