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i mean they are getting rare in mainstream segment.

these days for sata ssd we have 3 tiers: entry-level/value, mainstream, and professional. (i think the same will apply to other variants too in near future, eg. pcie/nvme ssd) you still can get mlc ssd for professional tier.

a good mlc ssd still depends on technologies implemented (core and supporting). remember not all mlc nand are fast. as an example, for mlc nand itself, there are different technology implementations for mlc nand, hence some mlc nand produced based on older generations of technical specifications are actually slower.

this was why it's such a fuss about kingston's nand swap incident few years ago, http://www.anandtech.com/show/7763/an-upda...wer-micron-nand (pay attention to the bandwidth provided by each nand)

in short, choose toshiba's/samsung's toggle mode nand (toggle mode ddr), or those based on new onfi standards.

not many people really know what they're talking about sometimes about mlc nand type. toggle mode nand is actually a type of asynchronous nand. in the above report (and many other well-known ones) they made it sounded like it's synchronous vs asynchronous nand, which was wrong technically.

edit: additional reading if you wanna know more, http://www.samsung.com/global/business/sem...itepaper03.html


This post has been edited by horns: Sep 17 2016, 02:53 AM

you should go there and ask. i think c-zone and viewnet have it.

for plextor/liteon, yes there are differences; not significant if they're for normal use though. from the list, m6pro is what i will choose. it's the only performance sata ssd.

as for Liteon MU II 240GB vs Liteon SCS-256-L9S, mu ii is tlc ssd, while scs-256-l9s runs on mlc nand.

yeah even 960evo is making people crazy haha

http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minis...mer/960evo.html
http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minis...mer/960pro.html

yeah

i wanna get it for work purposes mainly. about the endurance, the 960pro 1tb model is 800tbw; 2tb model is 1.2pbw

just grab one haha

you should wait?

ok haha

well there is no 950 evo btw; samsung continues to set up reference and trends for us (960 evo is mainstream tlc-based pcie/nvme ssd, while mlc-based 960 pro is for professionals and enthusiasts).

maybe it's because of sata bandwidth limit, and 850 pro is still one of the best sata ssds in retail market. (as for mainstream, the new toshiba ocz vx500 is getting a lot of positive attentions)

however, i suspect later we will see u.2 form factor from samsung. they're thicker, but better than 2.5" sata ssds in terms of speed.

you can still use a pcie adapter to house the m.2 ssd. that should work.

Oh :/

that's nice! at least you have an option to keep using mitx.

when i purchase mobos i look kind of further (maybe too far ahead), because i wanna use them for storage only when they get old and replaced. (after changing cmos battery, they should be good to go hehe)

in general it's the same for other models. there are so many features in a mobo these days, yet there are limited resources like pci-e lanes. some features will get disabled because they share the same pci-e lanes with other features.

afaik plextor/liteon usually use nand from toshiba (mlc and tlc).

from the specs, onfi 3.x nand should be ok.

basically nand are produced based on 2 standards, one is onfi, another is toggle mode ddr.

onfi (onfi.org) is a standards body that establishes standards and specifications for nand flash interface (onfi stands for open nand flash interface). it's backed by most big boys, like intel, micron, sandisk, and sk hynix. ( the long list is at http://www.onfi.org/membership )

only samsung and toshiba uses toggle mode ddr.

the 'potential problem' exists mainly due to the use of nand flash produced based on older specifications of onfi/toggle mode ddr in today's ssds by some oem manufacturers. older specifications had much slower nand speed.

it doesn't matter anymore i think. manufacturers are usually using onfi 3.x/toggle 2.0 nand these days.

you can read more here, http://www.samsung.com/global/business/sem...itepaper03.html

check out what sHawTY has compiled previously, https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=81548112

they should be still valid.

1. intel ssd is ok. performance depends on models.

2. this depends on the slot spacing actually. usually they have enough space for both gpu and ssd.

there is nothing wrong to use high performance power plan for ssd.

hm not sure; never use one of that before sorry.

I have a number of ssds, mainly from samsung, intel, plextor/liteon, kingston and transcend. I use samsung most.

you might consider this a reliability thing: previously samsung 840evo had a slow read bug; got fixed long time ago.

that's the only one that i know of, and none of them show anything weird after all these years.

i have tried some sata ssds from professional, mainstream and value/entry-level tiers. there are differences in performance between these different tiers (especially sustained r/w speeds), however they are not obvious in cases of normal use. so just go for value or mainstream ssds if it's just for day-to-day use.

sure. my pcs always run at high performance mode.

for the change of security state to sec1, read here, http://www.admin-magazine.com/Archive/2014...-disks-and-SSDs

a laptop with stock wxp? well it's not only the storage that is slow i think. adding ssd into it might not be as helpful.

if you insisted, make sure the laptop has at least sata2 ports first. afaik, wxp doesn't support sata natively, so during installation you should have compatible sata drivers ready.

unfortunately here we seldom hear comments from intel 730/750 users (like none)

however, intel is one of the brands that has the lowest return rates according to hardware.fr (the most realistic numbers that i can find)