er don't bother about it. they're results of ill-planned overspending :/ it was meant mainly to remind me of spending wisely next time.

it depends. if you used it for work that can use most of its speed, it's better than making raid0 with sata ssds.

for home use, it's seriously an excess, at least imo.

if the m.2 slot is not blocked by anything, you can secure a copper heat sink on top of its controller chip. the caveat is that you might void its warranty if you removed the sticker.

no, i just have samsung's xp941 and sm951. i use a pcie adapter with heat sink to cope with its overheating. note that a lot of reviews said that it's acceptable to use them in bare form in general use. the point does make sense, but i am building my work stuff with it and move them to other storage frequently. i just don't wanna risk it.

samsung 950 pro has a built-in throttling to prevent overheating. (basically it means dropping the speed to sata3 when it happens) if this is not your concern then it should be good to go.

for common usage, i think the heat issue might be acceptable. some laptops do provide additional heat spreading feature for m.2 ssds through smart designs.

nice yes about the fans, there are people who use side fans that blow air directly to mobo and gpu for better results.

ok hehe it's called heat pipe. however i think the cooling system is mainly used to cool cpu and gpu only. i'm not sure if there is any direct contact to your ssd. afaik certain high-end asus g-series has a special metal place holder for m.2 ssd which also serves as heat spreader for the ssd.

nice

installing intel rst driver is optional if os-provided msahci driver works fine. however imo it better to use it because it's actively maintained, while msahci driver is used as failsafe.

good stuff bro

i might, but not now bro.

please check out the price list from retail and garage sales. there are new stuff, like samsung 750.

if it's an intel-based mobo, check your mobo manual and identify the intel sata ports. it's better to connect your ssd to intel sata ports.

no, the nand chip are not hot. it's the controller that gets hot fast under certain conditions. for common usage, it should be fine.

in general raid supports ahci so you are good to go.

note that to get the most performance out of your ssd, it' best to connect it to intel ports on your mobo.

of the three, relatively speaking, kingston fury is the slowest; while samsung 750 evo 120gb has the lowest guaranteed endurance of 35tb tbw. (x300 has 72tb; kingston has the highest, 2.75dwpd)

for common use and as a os drive only, value/entry-level ssds should be good enough. your main concern is apparently about costs only, so just get sandisk.

how did you get the difference of MYR66 between 750 evo and x300?

you can, but it's really not optimal. the main advantage of ssd is speed, but it's very expensive per gb, while for hdd is space and affordable (hence much cheaper to replace). a better option for personal computing is to use ssd for os and applications, while hdd is used for downloads and storage. this way you can have good speed and more space for your os and applications, while you still can have large storage space. (best of both worlds)

about that myth (partitioning can cut ssd's shelf life by half), it doesn't make sense, because ssd's shelf life depends on your usage. use it as os/apps drives, your ssd can actually last for a long time (like more than 5 years). but if you use it for daily downloads, which involve a lot of writes (downloading, and then moving the downloads to external storage to free up space), then it will definitely have impacts.

edit: you might have heard that 'ssd has a limited shelf life'. actually that statement is misleading. believe me, most people who don't do enough research will tell you that, while there are already proofs that showed how endure a ssd is




This post has been edited by horns: Feb 20 2016, 10:15 AM

kingston fury uses mlc nand (but a much slower type); x300 and 750 evo uses tlc. sandforce controller is an old controller but old doesn't mean bad. it's proven to be reliable after all previous bugs were fixed. the disadvantage is that it's slower compared to modern controllers.

they are all entry-level drives, so it's normal that they use cheapest parts to reduce costs. by performance ratings, they are the least performing compared to other classes. (if you used performance ssds before, you can feel that instantly) but the main point that you should care is still they're better than hdd. also, good or not is kind of relative and subjective. in terms of failure return rates, in general, kingston is slightly better than sandisk according to some reports (just behind the top 2, intel and samsung).

like i said, if your main concern is about price, go for the cheapest one. the simple rule of 'you get what you pay for' usually applies in ssd purchases. it's a give-and-take thing.

This post has been edited by horns: Feb 20 2016, 09:41 PM

although it's better to use a single partition, yeah you can do that. just treat it like a hdd in terms of partitioning.

Flash Reliability in Production: The Expected and the Unexpected

a over-6-year study at google data center revealed interesting things. note that if you read that paper without setting the scope right, you will get a totally wrong idea about ssd reliability.

for the record, the key conclusions summarized by others are as follows:
don't panic. the whole scenario is about ssd in data centers (which get hammered everyday during their service). for personal computing it's entirely different, especially the part that age, not usage, affects reliability imo.

however, if you're still worried, the ancient but still very useful practice, i.e. backup with hdd, still help in most situations.

sources:
- the actual paper, http://0b4af6cdc2f0c5998459-c0245c5c937c5d...s-schroeder.pdf
- https://www.techpowerup.com/220432/high-end...ogle-study.html
- https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/4...ty_in_the_data/
- http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/mlc-ssds-...ays-google.html
- http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=38062177
- http://www.overclock.net/t/1592948/tpu-hig...lc-google-study
- http://www.tenforums.com/windows-10-news/4...experience.html

you should read carefully what has been written in that page. it has stated that it's for windows that doesn't support trim. w8 or up has trim support built-in, and you can use the os tool called 'optimize drives' to achieve the same thing.

yeah wtf lol!

yes, by default w10 has a scheduler of some sort that do this in background. still, you can trigger it manually with 'optimize drives'. as long as your ssd is connected via sata, w10 is smart enough to differentiate it from hdd and do the right thing.

yes you're correct. as long as it labels your ssd correctly you can go ahead an press the optimize button.

note that windows only do this if the ssd is connected via sata ports. if you put ssd in most external enclosures, it will label it as hdd instead.

tbh, there is no need to run trim very frequently. the default once-a-week schedule by windows is good enough for common usage.

in short, performance and endurance wise, the difference is negligible for common usage. it's the warranty period that makes the main difference between the two.

just grab the one that is within your budget. sandisk ultra ii is actually not bad for common use imo.

Right it's better to get fury than v300 if you want speed. Just click on specifications for both, and check their read/write speeds at 120gb. You should be able to spot the gaps (read speed and endurance especially)

ahbenchai, you really don't look hard enough.

3.5" brackets for ssd at garage sales @lyn:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1588432
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3488294
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2938058
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3233402 - dual bay

lelong.com.my:
http://www.lelong.com.my/2-5in-ssd-hdd-to-...6-04-Sale-P.htm
http://www.lelong.com.my/ssd-hdd-caddy-mou...7-01-Sale-I.htm
http://www.lelong.com.my/2-5-to-3-5-bay-ss...7-01-Sale-I.htm
http://www.lelong.com.my/kingston-3-5-to-2...6-11-Sale-P.htm
http://www.lelong.com.my/kingston-tools-br...7-01-Sale-I.htm

np

as for ssd capacity, unless you really need ssd urgently, like now, or you think small ssd is sufficient enough for your build for many years, then you just grab what you can get and be done with it. if not, always save more for larger capacities, ie. large mainstream ssds > small performance ssds. for common usage, usually mainstream sata ssds are good enough (and the bare minimum for sata port is sata2). in many cases, 240-256gb is the minimal optimal.

unless you are enthusiasts, or it's for work purposes that require beyond sata ssd's performance, don't bother to go for pcie ahci/nvme ssds, because you don't really need such large amount of iops or speed to check emails or play games.