yes, it's normal.

with ssd (even if it's a sata ssd) my computers boots fast enough for me. the more important thing is still when i am in the desktop. i want everything to be snappy.

to me, yes it's cheap.

from the price list of viewnet:
1. samsung 850 evo 500g - myr 789
2. transcend ssd370 512g - myr 779

myr 10 for 2 additional years of warranty.

wo intel 750 is also on that list now.

uh? why go for used ssds when you can grab a new one? it's not that it will be sold at much cheaper price.

you install applications in ssd, then configure it to store files in hdd.

in general, yes, definitely. however i think it's better to use ssd for os, software, and data for much better overall speed. if possible go for enterprise ssds that have decent qualities to support write intensive workloads. use hdd as local system and data backups. periodically create copies of the same in hdd and store in external storage.

Oh great. If that's the case why not invest a few hundred more for another 240gb entry level enterprice sata/sas mlc ssd as os drive? (For os drive you don't need slc. It's much cheaper)

Samsung Magician Software 4.9

http://www.samsung.com/global/business/sem.../downloads.html

New in Version 4.9
Magician version 4.9 features a number of improvements over version 4.8:
- New model support: Samsung 750 EVO SSD

This post has been edited by horns: Nov 16 2015, 05:05 PM

from the report at pugetsystems (https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Product-Review-Samsung-950-Pro-512GB-M-2-Drive-725/), it's unfortunate that samsung 950 pro doesn't really overcome the high temperature issue like previous xp941 and sm951. as advertised, samsung 950 pro will activate thermal throttling protection by bringing down speeds to around sata speed, when its temperature is high.

for better sustainable performance, use a pcie adapter with heatsink if you have such a drive.

well, physics is still physics.

nice stuff there. all the best on the sale

no. get a uasp-compatible hdd enclosure. about 70 per pc.

yeah same here.

i think it's fine because oem ssds have none of these value-added bonuses (new management software, new firmware, etc.) but they still work fine as usual.

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due to recent rapid developments in nvme ssd techs, growing in speed and size (e.g. samsung pm1725, which is a pcie 3.0 x8 enterprise hhhl, tlc-based; endurance rating is 5 dwpd for 5 years; max capacity announced currently is 6.4TB; read speed around 6GB/s, write speed at 2GB/s. sandisk was said to release 6 to 8TB ssds in 2017 too) the problems have now shifted to limited pcie lanes in a computer, and compatibility in hardware and os. (pm1725 is an enterprise ssd. i think the consumer models should be coming at much later time)

for os compatibility, intel and samsung are releasing their own driver set to overcome such issues. for instance, if you have a sm951 nvme version (oem), you can use the same driver set made for 950 pro also. one main issue is the slow boot of nvme ssds. it's said this part is mainly about firmware compatibility (in mobo, or in ssds) this one might be more tricky, as it depends on other parties to provide a complete fix.

back to consumer space, tbh, you probably don't need these. yet. it's an overkill to most of us.

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Intel® Solid-State Drive Toolbox 3.3.3

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/18455

wxp is old (the same applies to the hardware on which it's installed too), so in terms of performance, consider the following: old mobo might not have ahci sata mode; its sata port might be sata1 only. because wxp has reached eol, driver support might be none (still, you should be able to run it with ide mode). in terms of native ssd support in the os, trim is important to ssd optimization, but it is only available in w7 and up. a better news is, some ssds have bundled software tool that let you run trim manually, so you should pick up ssds from those brands only.

in short, yes you can run wxp with ssd. however you will not run it optimally.

uh? i have answered your question in w10 thread. maybe it's too short and you didn't get it?

basically it's ok to disable this feature because ssd makes os boot fast enough, and the space of ssd is expensive relatively so it's better to free up the space for your software.

however if you're willing to sacrifice some writes for much faster boot speed, it's fine too.

it's not a waste. for user computing, ssd still provides much better iops (especially random reads/writes) than hdd.

ssd optimization is basically a thing about give and take. ideally you apply them all. practically, if you need a feature that prevents you to apply one or more optimization techniques, you skip them.

er when you shut down a computer, or put it to sleep/hibernate, none of the programs will run. that's a normal behavior. the way you put it sounded like it's a tedious thing to do it's not that bad with a ssd.

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for a clean install, i usually do this:

1. check ssd firmware. if there is an update i will update it first before a clean install. at the same time i will also get the latest compatible drivers for all hardware in my system from internet.
2. remove all partitions in my os drive (dispart > clean) and do a clean install on it.
3. after a successful clean install, i will install drivers first. for instance if it's a intel-based system, install at least intel chipset, rst, and mei first. reboot and then proceed with other drivers. i prefer to do this offline because recent windows os always connect to internet by default to do their own things, like getting drivers from their server, which might interfere with your driver installations.
4. now i connect the computer to internet. if you need to have dot net framework installed because some programs need it, install it first.
5. run windows updates.
6. activate windows.
7. after all the above are done, create the first system image. this is a plain system image with all windows-only updates applied, without anything else.
8. here you can apply your own optimizations. for instance, you can run samsung magician and optimize the system using it.
9. install software and apply all their latest updates / patches. this includes antivirus.
10. after everything is working fine, make another system image. this one is the system image that you will use when things go bad. it contains all latest possible drivers, settings, programs, and all updates / patches that you have applied to the system up until before it is made, so you do not need to go through the same again. alternatively, you can also create images for cloning using third party tools. if possible, recreate new system image whenever you made significant changes to the system and use it for future recovery purposes.

once you have reached step 10, you can forget about all other steps. just repeat step 10 when necessary, unless you wanna do a clean install again. when things go bad, you boot your computer with os install disk/usb and choose repair computers and find restore from system image or something like that to restore your os.

note that everyone has different approach to achieve the same thing, and this is just how i manage my computers. it's related to how i set up my computers. (i.e. small ssd for os drive; medium or large ssds for games; hdds for data storage.) instead of going through the whole process again, this approach takes only under half an hour to restore everything every time i messed up my os.

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you don't use ssd to get files via p2p networks. a better combo for a system is ssd+hdd combo, i.e. ssd for os/apps, hdd for downloads and data storage. i use transmission and utorrent sometimes, and it lets me point related write-intensive folders to my hdd.

edit: for system image storage, i use a dedicated external hdd. it's a single-partition mbr disk for better compatibility to windows built-in recovery tools. in case you're wondering where the tools are located, it's in the control panel. for more complete instructions to use the tools for different windows versions, use search engine to look it up. there are plenty of well-written tutorials online.


This post has been edited by horns: Nov 24 2015, 01:01 PM

you can just connect the ssd via a sata cable, and run samsung magician to update its firmware. i never use sata-to-usb adapter for ssd firmware upgrades.

if i had a ssd that is 2tb or more, i might consider making some partitions on it. anything less than or equals to 1tb i think it's not necessary.

for p2p software, you can install it anywhere you like, as long as you make sure you point all torrent/download folders to the hdd.

how many ssds you wanna put in your computers is really up to you. (whether it's cost effective or not also depends on what you do with your computers) i have a full-ssd setup for this laptop for work. (1x 512gb, 2x 960gb) my data is stored in external storage and nas.

edit: the reason why i don't use sata-to-usb adapter for firmware upgrades is because sometimes manufacturers require the ssd to run in ahci mode, which is only available if you run it with sata cable.

This post has been edited by horns: Nov 24 2015, 03:51 PM

we seldom hear about intel ssds. however you can try look it up for user reviews and comments for the drive online.

yes, you're right. the steps were meant for reference only. skip anything that is not applicable. it's just personal preference to choose whether you wanna update the firmware or not. the safer way is of course if you don't have issues, don't create issues. (if it's not broken, don't fix it)

i'm glad that you find it ok. i really hope it helps others too, because i have used the same way for years and it saved me from a lot of troubles and time when it comes to system recovery.

The sweet spot (best performance/price values) for ssd is still at 240gb range (240-256gb) If possible go for that range.

You can install the os right away. Reformatting is usually done to get rid of old files before a new one is installed. For disk cleanup, usually os will take care of it also. If you are out of space, then you can do it manually.

we have good feedback about liteon s900 and transcend ssd370. the rest should be ok also. mainstream ssds are relatively cheaper and great for general use.

oem version of l9s should be identical to retail version of s900. they're just for different sale channels. (oem and retail)

however s900 has a 3-year warranty, while for oem version, it's up to the seller.

uh? if it's not l9s, it's not s900 oem version. that means they are not the same.

from a brief search, i think this is similar to zeta series, using Silicon Motion SM2246EN controller.

uh? i think it's better for you to post this in garage sales. maybe use WTT as the sale tag.