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khool
post Jun 15 2015, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Jun 15 2015, 01:59 PM)
Translated from the Russian Lives of Saints, Moscow, 1904.
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post Jun 15 2015, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Jun 15 2015, 02:36 PM)
Recently I was present at the last rites of a young cancer patient at the General Hospital. Anointing of the eyes, ears, nose, mouth, legs, followed by Apostolic Blessing which carries a plenary indulgence, and reception of Holy Viaticum (communion for the sick/dying). Felt emotional.  cry.gif but glad that he was resigned to the Will of God and ready to go.
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Extreme Unction with Last Rites?

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post Jun 15 2015, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(khool @ Jun 15 2015, 06:01 PM)
Extreme Unction with Last Rites?
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Yeah, it is indeed a special grace to be able to die fortified with this sacrament.
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QUOTE(yeeck @ Jun 15 2015, 06:20 PM)
Yeah, it is indeed a special grace to be able to die fortified with this sacrament.
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yeeck, just curious, do you have any website that we can study more about catholic in structured manner ? structured meaning not magazine nor book nor youtube biggrin.gif
something similar to christian bachelor of theology university courses.


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post Jun 16 2015, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jun 15 2015, 07:10 PM)
yeeck, just curious, do you have any website that we can study more about catholic in structured manner ? structured meaning not magazine nor book nor youtube biggrin.gif
something similar to christian bachelor of theology university courses.
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You can start with any officially approved catechisms. For something formal, there's always the seminary smile.gif
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post Jun 16 2015, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jun 15 2015, 07:10 PM)
yeeck, just curious, do you have any website that we can study more about catholic in structured manner ? structured meaning not magazine nor book nor youtube biggrin.gif
something similar to christian bachelor of theology university courses.
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If you are truly curious and would like to find out more, just head down to the nearest Catholic Church and enrol in the RCIA course.

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post Jun 17 2015, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Jun 16 2015, 10:19 AM)
You can start with any officially approved catechisms. For something formal, there's always the seminary smile.gif
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seminary is common name lahh brader biggrin.gif...
http://www.stssabah.org/ i don't think that seminary is catholic

any seminary example approved by vatican ?

QUOTE(khool @ Jun 16 2015, 10:26 AM)
If you are truly curious and would like to find out more, just head down to the nearest Catholic Church and enrol in the RCIA course.
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ah... i found online... can check the validity ?
http://www.wakingupcatholic.com/waking-up-...-resources.html

-- both of u... many thanks biggrin.gif
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post Jun 18 2015, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jun 17 2015, 09:01 PM)
seminary is common name lahh brader biggrin.gif...
http://www.stssabah.org/ i don't think that seminary is catholic

any seminary example approved by vatican ?
ah... i found online... can check the validity ?
http://www.wakingupcatholic.com/waking-up-...-resources.html

-- both of u... many thanks biggrin.gif
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Yes, the site for RCIA is valid, however, it is just resources only. It is far better to study with other people, in a group and with guidance from RCIA facilitators.

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post Jun 18 2015, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(khool @ Jun 18 2015, 09:42 AM)
... RCIA facilitators.
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you n yeeck lahhh biggrin.gif ... i got questions i throw them here thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jun 18 2015, 11:34 AM)
you n yeeck lahhh biggrin.gif ... i got questions i throw them here  thumbup.gif
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alright, as you wish.
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post Jun 18 2015, 04:18 PM

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Source: https://www.facebook.com/roman.catholicity/...0075049/?type=1

10 tips to help you PRAY (not just Say) the Rosary

1. Less Is More – In his book, The Rosary of Our Lady, Msgr. Romano Guardini offers the following advice:

“It is not necessary to ramble through the whole Rosary; it is better to say only one or two decades, and to say them right.”

Talk about removing the pressure! I’ve always struggled to make sure I complete the entire Rosary, even if it meant that I wasn’t paying attention. Now I realize that quality is more important than quantity.

2. You Are Not Alone – A great proponent of Marian devotion, St. Louis de Montfort urges us to be aware of our company while praying the rosary. In The Secret of the Rosary, Montfort reminds us that, when we pray the Rosary, we should put ourselves in God’s presence and imagine that He (along with the Blessed Mother) is watching us and that our guardian angel is standing to our right. If we say the prayers well, our angel will use them to make crowns for Jesus and Mary. Thinking about this before beginning to pray helps us to realize that we are doing A LOT more than just repeating pious words!

3. Watch What You Say – St. Josemaria Escriva, the founder of Opus Dei, contributes a simple, but often overlooked suggestion. He encourages us to pronounce each Our Father and Hail Mary clearly and without rushing. In doing so, we will better express our love for Mary and Jesus. When praying the Rosary, it’s easy to fall into the trap of mumbling and our rushing through the prayers. Remembering that the Our Father was handed down to us from Jesus and that most of the Hail Mary is taken directly from Scripture should help us to recall that the words DO mean something!

4. Been There, Done That – When we look at Mary’s life, we sometimes overlook her many struggles. Like us, Mary was forced to endure suffering and difficulties, often without a lot of explanation. Being the Mother of God didn’t make her all knowing. The Bible tells us that Mary experienced confusion and had to seek understanding through prayer. In her book, The Splendor of the Rosary, Maisie Ward (Catholic author, publisher and wife of noted apologist Frank Sheed) stated:

“In the Rosary we rejoice, sorrow and triumph with Our Lady as she walks the same path we have to walk. But now she has reached the end.”

When we pray the Rosary, we should remember that Mary understands our problems and confusion. By meditating on the events in her life and the life of her Son, we can obtain help for our daily struggles from someone who is now in a place where we’d like to someday be!

5. Listen To The Word – In his Apostolic Letter, Rosarium Virginis Mariae (On The Most Holy Rosary), Blessed Pope John Paul II recommends that we supplement our Rosary meditations with Bible reading. After announcing the individual mystery, the late Holy Father encourages us to read an appropriate Bible passage. While this is not always possible (if we are praying while walking or driving, for instance), we can still mentally recall the details of an appropriate Bible story. This underscores the importance of becoming familiar with Sacred Scripture.

6. Savor The Repetition – Sometimes it feels as if praying the Rosary is just “repeating a bunch of words”! In fact, one of the criticisms of the Rosary is that it is nothing more than “vain repetition”. In his book, The World’s First Love: Mary, Mother of God, Venerable Archbishop Fulton Sheen addresses those who consider the rosary to be monotonous. Using the analogy of a husband telling his wife “I love you” or a mother proclaiming “you’re a good boy” to her child, Sheen stresses that the words mean something different at each point in time that they are repeated. In the same way, each time we pray the Rosary, we are saying “I love you” to God, the Trinity, to Jesus and to Mary. With each successive bead (or decade) the meaning shifts as we contemplate a new aspect of Jesus or Mary’s love.

7. Do Whatever He Tells You – Praying the Rosary, no matter how devoutly, is never a substitute for following the commands of Jesus and His Church. The Rosary should spur us on to live the mysteries in our daily life. In his book, The Sermons of St. Francis de Sales on Our Lady, St. Francis de Sales had this to say:

“The worldly-minded imagine that devotion to Our Lady usually consists in carrying a rosary in their cincture. It seems to them that it is enough to pray it a number of times without doing anything else. In this they are greatly mistaken. For our dear Mistress wants us to do what her Son commands us (John 2:5) and considers as done to herself the honor we give to her Son by keeping His commandments.”

8. Think – In the preface of Father Peyton’s Rosary Prayer Book: The Family That Prays Together Stays Together, Fr. Patrick Peyton reminds us that the Rosary is more than a series of prayers to be recited. Rather, it is “a series of thoughts to be dwelt on, to be turned over in the mind, to be applied in daily life.” While we are saying the words of the prayers, we should be meditating upon the mysteries. That was a hard concept for me to understand, but it’s the key to unleashing the power of the Rosary.

9. Grow In Virtue – Mother Angelica loves the Rosary. In her book, The Prayers and Personal Devotions of Mother Angelica, she discusses how to use the Rosary to grow in virtue:

“If you’re not making progress in one virtue, say your Rosary and meditate on that virtue as Our Lord practiced it. I cannot get over my faults and weaknesses if I don’t substitute those faults and weaknesses for something of God. This is precisely why the life of Jesus and the reading of Scripture and the rosary never seem to change us – why we remain the same: Because to change you need to admire someone other than yourself.”

10. Ask Mary For Help – This one’s so obvious that it’s easy to overlook! This simple, but powerful suggestion comes from a list (Tips On Praying The Rosary More Devoutly) put together by The Association of the Miraculous Medal in Perryville, MO. Before beginning the Rosary, we should ask Our Blessed Mother to help us pray devoutly.

Although the Rosary follows a simple pattern, it can be a very challenging prayer to master. Rest assured that many of the Saints struggled with it too. If you find it difficult to pray the Rosary, try out these tips and see what happens. It might take a little time, but eventually your persistence will pay off. The next time you pick up your rosary beads, imagine that you’re holding Mary’s hand and taking a trip to visit Jesus. For when we pray the Rosary, that’s exactly what happens!

“The Rosary is the most beautiful and the most rich in graces of all prayers; it is the prayer that touches most the Heart of the Mother of God…and if you wish peace to reign in your homes, recite the family Rosary.” (Pope Saint Pius X)
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The Mystery of Human Suffering and Dying ~ Cardinal Burke


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post Jun 19 2015, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(khool @ Jun 18 2015, 03:44 PM)
alright, as you wish.
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hi khool, i have questions. I think i better post 1 by 1

what does catholic view on Jesus ? is is still GOD, or only super human who has GOD power ?

because i heard marry was somehow "superior" than Jesus so i just need to have a catholic pov (point of view) on this .

most of my questions later is about catholic pov, or catholic way to see.

christian has a way to see Jesus, catholic sure has a way to see Jesus. I want to learn catholic pov. tqvm biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jun 19 2015, 09:32 AM)
hi khool, i have questions. I think i better post 1 by 1

what does catholic view on Jesus ? is is still GOD, or only super human who has GOD power ?

=>Jesus is true God and true Man, Second Person of the Blessed Trinity, One God.

because i heard marry was somehow "superior" than Jesus so i just need to have a catholic pov (point of view) on this .

=> This is the common Protestant misconception about the Catholic pov. Mary is still a creature, not the Creator. But the title Mother of God is true because she is the mother of Jesus who is true God and true Man.

most of my questions later is about catholic pov, or catholic way to see.

christian has a way to see Jesus, catholic sure has a way to see Jesus. I want to learn catholic pov. tqvm biggrin.gif
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post Jun 19 2015, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Jun 19 2015, 04:40 PM)

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next question: concept about cell group / regular meeting not sunday. Is there such thing in catholic, is it endorsed from vatican or only parish level. I mean the necessiry to attend cell groups. I want to know is therre any by-law which is higher than a mere suggestions.
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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jun 19 2015, 07:28 PM)
thx biggrin.gif

next question: concept about cell group / regular meeting not sunday. Is there such thing in catholic, is it endorsed from vatican or only parish level. I mean the necessiry to attend cell groups. I want to know is therre any by-law which is higher than a mere suggestions.
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Yes, it is called "Basic Ecclesial Community", or BECs in short. Attendance is strongly encouraged (but not compulsory) and is organized mostly along geographical zones, based on Archdiocese of the region. Although recently, the Archdiocese of KL maybe reorganizing into based on interest groups also, however still under study.

Some further references:

a. Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_ecclesial_community
b. USA: http://www.slideshare.net/becnova/basic-ec...why-and-the-how
c. Malaysia: http://www.sfx.com.my/index.php/bec

All Church based activities must be registered and approved by the archdiocese, and Vatican before they can be implemented. Catholics must acknowledge the authority of Vatican and the Holy See in Rome.

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post Jun 20 2015, 07:03 AM

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QUOTE(khool @ Jun 20 2015, 02:52 AM)
Yes, it is called "Basic Ecclesial Community", or BECs in short. Attendance is strongly encouraged (but not compulsory) and is organized mostly along geographical zones, based on Archdiocese of the region. Although recently, the Archdiocese of KL maybe reorganizing into based on interest groups also, however still under study.

Some further references:

a. Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_ecclesial_community
b. USA: http://www.slideshare.net/becnova/basic-ec...why-and-the-how
c. Malaysia: http://www.sfx.com.my/index.php/bec

All Church based activities must be registered and approved by the archdiocese, and Vatican before they can be implemented. Catholics must acknowledge the authority of Vatican and the Holy See in Rome.
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ah nice answers. thanks

for you and yeeck i tell you upfront why i ask these questions in forum, not pm not googling myself. The reason: my questions will be stored in cloud. Cloud is IT terms for wah... kinda difficult to explain biggrin.gif

basicly, i can't remember the whole conversation, but i remembered important words. These are my keywords for googling later on. perhaps another 2 years, when i want to recall about cell group catholic, i can google: khool yeeck cell group site:forum.lowyat.net

the part in blue are actually google search metadata to search information in forum.lowyat.net for keyword khool yeeck cell group.
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Twelfth Sunday in Ordinary Time
Lectionary: 95


Reading 1 (Jb 38:1, 8-11)

The Lord addressed Job out of the storm and said:
Who shut within doors the sea,
when it burst forth from the womb;
when I made the clouds its garment
and thick darkness its swaddling bands?
When I set limits for it
and fastened the bar of its door,
and said: Thus far shall you come but no farther,
and here shall your proud waves be stilled!


Responsorial Psalm (Ps 107:23-24, 25-26, 28-29, 30-31)

R. (1b) Give thanks to the Lord, his love is everlasting.
or:
R. Alleluia.
They who sailed the sea in ships,
trading on the deep waters,
These saw the works of the LORD
and his wonders in the abyss.
R. Give thanks to the Lord, his love is everlasting.

or:

R. Alleluia.
His command raised up a storm wind
which tossed its waves on high.
They mounted up to heaven; they sank to the depths;
their hearts melted away in their plight.
R. Give thanks to the Lord, his love is everlasting.
or:
R. Alleluia.
They cried to the LORD in their distress;
from their straits he rescued them,
He hushed the storm to a gentle breeze,
and the billows of the sea were stilled.
R. Give thanks to the Lord, his love is everlasting.
or:
R. Alleluia.
They rejoiced that they were calmed,
and he brought them to their desired haven.
Let them give thanks to the LORD for his kindness
and his wondrous deeds to the children of men.
R. Give thanks to the Lord, his love is everlasting.
or:
R. Alleluia.


Reading 2 (2 Cor 5:14-17)

Brothers and sisters:
The love of Christ impels us,
once we have come to the conviction that one died for all;
therefore, all have died.
He indeed died for all,
so that those who live might no longer live for themselves
but for him who for their sake died and was raised.

Consequently, from now on we regard no one according to the flesh;
even if we once knew Christ according to the flesh,
yet now we know him so no longer.
So whoever is in Christ is a new creation:
the old things have passed away;
behold, new things have come.


Alleluia (Lk 7:16)

R. Alleluia, alleluia.

A great prophet has risen in our midst,
God has visited his people.

R. Alleluia, alleluia.


Gospel (Mk 4:35-41)

On that day, as evening drew on, Jesus said to his disciples:
“Let us cross to the other side.”
Leaving the crowd, they took Jesus with them in the boat just as he was.
And other boats were with him.
A violent squall came up and waves were breaking over the boat,
so that it was already filling up.
Jesus was in the stern, asleep on a cushion.
They woke him and said to him,
“Teacher, do you not care that we are perishing?”
He woke up,
rebuked the wind, and said to the sea, “Quiet! Be still!”
The wind ceased and there was great calm.
Then he asked them, “Why are you terrified?
Do you not yet have faith?”
They were filled with great awe and said to one another,
“Who then is this whom even wind and sea obey?”
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