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khool
post Mar 5 2015, 03:28 PM

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Hi,

Fellow Catholic, khool, reporting in;

khool - TP/FL : St. Ignatius Church, PJ
- Occassionally KA Chapel
- Occassionally Our Lady of Guadalupe, Puchong

The Lord be with you Guys!!! biggrin.gif

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post Mar 5 2015, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 5 2015, 04:21 PM)
Interesting, I just noticed that KA Chapel is at a shoplot in TTDI. Never been there before. Is it a rented place?
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Hi there,

Kind of, used to be that they occupied three whole lots, now down to two lots. The one that was given up is the rented one, the other two lots belong to KA parishioners themselves ... I think ... biggrin.gif
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post Mar 7 2015, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 6 2015, 09:00 PM)
But I think the figures might not be correct given the huge megachurches sprouting up (especially of the Charismatic/Evangelical type), some of which I don't even know are affiliated with which particular denomination.
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Those would be the non-denominational type right?
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post Mar 8 2015, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 7 2015, 11:35 PM)
Errm I wonder what is non-denominational since they certainly have some creed right? If not affiliated with any of the better known denominations, then that makes them yet another denomination.
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Yes, precisely ... like you I always wondered what does the term itself mean? I know of one, tNCC. They claim to be non-denom.
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post Mar 9 2015, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 9 2015, 04:08 PM)
Catholics don't believe that the pope is a divine being. However, the teaching of papal infallibility says that the Holy Spirit will protect the Pope from error when defining an article of faith intending to bind all the faithful.

For the Holy Spirit was promised to the successors of Peter not so that they might, by his revelation, make known some new doctrine, but that, by his assistance, they might religiously guard and faithfully expound the revelation or deposit of faith transmitted by the apostles. Indeed, their apostolic teaching was embraced by all the venerable fathers and reverenced and followed by all the holy orthodox doctors, for they knew very well that this See of St. Peter always remains unblemished by any error, in accordance with the divine promise of our Lord and Savior to the prince of his disciples: "I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail; and when you have turned again, strengthen your brethren." - Pastor Aeternus.

Of course we believe the Pope is human and can make mistakes, but not when he intends to bind all the faithful to believe in an article of faith. For example, Pope John Paul II teaching that the Church has no power to ordain women. Or Pope Pius XII defining the dogma of the Assumption of Mary into Heaven, which is not a new teaching but has always been believed by the Church for ages.
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For the record, the Pope's infallibility only extends to 'ex-Cathedra', i.e. he needs to be sitting in the chair of St. Peter in the Cathedral when pronouncing doctrine.

His pronunciations must be based on Church documents, encyclicals, papal bulls, and especially the Catechism of the Catholic Church. In addition, the college of Cardinals and Synods must be held before these pronunciation are made. And always, all these must be related to matters of Christian / Catholic faith.

Outside of that circumstance, he can still be subject to human error.
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post Mar 9 2015, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(subimpact @ Mar 9 2015, 04:12 PM)
okay cool thanks...  so its just a fore figure for Catholics then ?
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Not just a fore (figure) head, the succession of Popes trace all the way back to St. Peter. He is considered the first, and therefore, Prince of the Apostles of Christ. This is an unbroken lineage.

To be appointed Pope today, is akin to being appointed by Christ Himself. Hence the term, "One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church" ... where the term 'Apostolic' refers to this appointment.

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post Mar 9 2015, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 9 2015, 04:30 PM)
Ermm....ex-Cathedra is the Latin meaning from the chair, but it doesn't necessarily mean he needs to be actually sitting down on his throne.

It is not correct to say that he must consult the college of Cardinals and Synods before pronouncing anything infallibly. The power of the Pope is even above that of Ecumenical Councils, Cardinals, Synods. It just needs to be related to matters of faith and morals and in accordance with the the constant Tradition of the Church or Scripture.
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That is true, he can make pronunciations solo, that is his right, however if the pope were to announce that tomorrow day is night and night is day, everyone would not be obligated to listen to him.

... but as a matter of Sacred Tradition, that is Tradition with a capital "T", such pronunciations are made from the Chair, with counsel from the College of Cardinals and Synods.

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post Mar 9 2015, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 9 2015, 04:39 PM)
Yes but if he defines tomorrow day is night and night is day, that is not related to faith and morals.
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hence the term, ex-cathedra ... matters only related to Christianity.
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post Mar 9 2015, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 9 2015, 04:30 PM)
Ermm....ex-Cathedra is the Latin meaning from the chair, but it doesn't necessarily mean he needs to be actually sitting down on his throne.

It is not correct to say that he must consult the college of Cardinals and Synods before pronouncing anything infallibly. The power of the Pope is even above that of Ecumenical Councils, Cardinals, Synods. It just needs to be related to matters of faith and morals and in accordance with the the constant Tradition of the Church or Scripture.

See The Pope

Picture of Pius XII defining the Assumption of Mary:
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Picture of Pius IX defining the Immaculate Conception:
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Oooh ... I like the second painting ... who is the artist???
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post Mar 9 2015, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 9 2015, 04:43 PM)
No idea, I just grabbed it from Google image lol...
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hahaha! no worries ... still cool! biggrin.gif icon_idea.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

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post Mar 9 2015, 05:52 PM

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Yeeck ... thanks bro! Much appreciated! biggrin.gif
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post Mar 10 2015, 04:12 PM

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errr ... bro Yeeck, perhaps he means 'It has been revealed ...', might be a typo?

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post Mar 11 2015, 02:04 PM

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Anyone fasting during this Season of Lent? How do you feel after the day of fasting is done? biggrin.gif
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post Mar 11 2015, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 11 2015, 03:14 PM)
The rule for fasting in the Latin Rite is quite easy actually...lol. 1 main meal with 2 smaller meals not equivalent to that 1 main meal. Can drink anytime, but no snacking. Of course one can always do more.
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Yesss ... I try to do more usually, then go for penintential service *CONFESSION!!!!* ... waahahahahahahahaa!!!!
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post Mar 11 2015, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 11 2015, 03:32 PM)
Actually I find it hard to understand what you are trying to say, really. And for Catholics, we don't just have the Pope to rely on, but also Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition. All these are encapsulated in catechisms, lives of the saints, the Sacred Liturgy (Holy Mass and the sacraments), etc...basically what I call the Catholic ethos.
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Sacred Scripture, Sacred Tradition AND Magisterial Teachings ... all of which the Pope still has to adhere to. Pope is not allowed to change any of the three, no authority.

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post Mar 11 2015, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 11 2015, 03:50 PM)
No, Catholics don't believe in "Scripture alone".
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Sola Sciptura ... a very limited view ...

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post Mar 12 2015, 09:43 AM

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Tomorrow is third Friday of Lent, anyone abstaining? Or maybe fasting full day?

I will be offering up prayers, petitions and Pope's intention during lunch. If possible will be doing a rosary! *YAY!* ... biggrin.gif

And is anyone going for stations of the cross?

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post Mar 12 2015, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 12 2015, 01:35 PM)
Have You Made a Good Confession Lately?

Are you afraid to go to Confession? Do you find yourself going through the motions at times? Have you neglected making a good examination of conscience? Have you made a good Confession this Lent?
On Friday, March 13, Pope Francis has once again instituted “24 Hours for the Lord,” in which Churches throughout Rome and the world will be open for 24 hours, (Ed: I'm not sure about 24hrs in Malaysia, perhaps brother
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can chip in here) with priests available to hear Confessions, demonstrating the vital importance of the sacrament to both lapsed and current Catholics.
Whether you’ve fallen out of the habit of frequent Confession, or whether it has become routine, resolve to make a good Confession this Lent, and to keep up the practice throughout the year.
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Bro Yeeck,

As far as I know, KL Archdiocese has not made any statement yet. However, since Pope Frankie has instituted this, it will certainly not hurt all us Catholics to join in this prayer session. Indeed, as the good Lord Himself has declared it, where two or three are gathered in my name, there I will be. What more when are are all joined together in this prayer petition across the world ... truly a One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church, the Universal Church.

And yes, do go for penitential service and confession, the Triduum and Easter Sunday is coming up soon. Time to face our shortcomings, so I encourage everyone to go. Penitential service for churches in Selangor are as follows:

Thu 12 Mar @ 7.30pm: St Ignatius, Petaling Jaya
Mon 16 Mar @ 7.30pm: Our Lady of Guadalupe, Puchong
Tue 24 Mar @ 7.00pm: St Francis Xavier, Petaling Jaya

If anyone can help provide and post penitential service times for your area, please do so! GBU!
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post Mar 12 2015, 02:01 PM

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A very good article on fasting ...

Five Biblical Truths About Fasting; http://www.sfx.com.my/thepilgrim/index.php...s-about-fasting


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post Mar 12 2015, 02:17 PM

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Bro Yeeck,

An article concerning the Pope, quite a good read IMO ...

http://www.sfx.com.my/thepilgrim/index.php...pe-be-a-heretic

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