Ayam like this statement 😋

Your broker thanks u~

There is one tactic like this, and it's simple for noob:
take profit if the price rises 20%; cut loss if it drops 10%

Let's say you have 10 stocks. You take profit in 5 of them, and cut loss in the remaining 5, you still make money overall.

This is not my tactic though. I will look at the fundamentals before making decision.

No, i could not play the lousy stock game

Lousy stocks are only for sharks. Ikan bilis like me will be eaten for lunch if I enter the water.

ya.. im learning fundamental analysis.. but not a good start for the 1st time in the market . Bought skpetro and Cimb after study their annual report but never expect the external news hurt both counter so much. Anyway, I'm still holding both, when the price keep coming down, I started to suspect my own skill.. maybe i should really ready to cut loss... Anyone daikok got comment on this 2 counter ?


Thats the reason why integrax shareholder refuse to sell ? once tnb take control over integrax. they able to control over the management?

That happens to me most of the time

Im ready to buy Petdagang once it touches 16.

... based on your brief example, you would only need 4 winners to make money. (4 out of 10 !!)

It's a math thing....

all one needs to do is keep winners big and cut the losses small.....

Last time, when Petdag shares flew crazy it was driven MAINLY by new petrol station growth.
Think about it....
it rather make sense....
new Petronas stations were popping out everywhere.....
everywhere......
Petronas profits grew and grew....
That was the sexy story behind the stock.


now?
you might buy the stock at a price you think it is cheap....
but does it has a sexy story to sell as previously?



in short...
I have witnessed...
such strategy....
i will buy xxx stock if it drops to yyy price....
most of the time such stuff do not work.
why?
most of the tine the stock price drops for a REAL reason....
and the simple reason is that profits have been declining like crazy......

If I say I wanna buy petgas leh?

What will be the analysis?

This post has been edited by gark: Mar 9 2015, 04:38 PM

im very scare of the o&g sector now.... holding skpetro but dunno want to let go or not

Same....

no sexy story to sell.....

Growth story is gone...
you can only have x number of petrol stations around...
after that.... any increase..... might not boost the bottom line at all......

you are trying to hunt for value......

and this you know isn't my fancy....

yezah... for sure... sometimes can win 30 or 40 from a 'rebound' movement....
which for some ... might be good...

but you know me....

i like to trade less....

and when I do trade....

I bloody well like to win big.......

can Petdag bounce back to say... 20 or 21.... maybe...maybe... possible..
can Petdag reach 34? .... errr... susah.....very the susah......

Main revenue stream for petgas is not petrol station.. it is the pipeline (2500 km of it)... ie gas transportation, so it is like toll road. They do not have risk of inventory as all gas belongs to petronas.

Catalyst will be the new re-gassification station at Johor to increase output through thier pipeline..

Risk will be lower uptake of gas usage hence lower 'toll' fee for their pipeline.. but at lower gas prices to come, consumers might use even more gas.

But the current stock price is too high..

This post has been edited by gark: Mar 9 2015, 05:02 PM

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This post has been edited by Lowyaa: Mar 9 2015, 05:02 PM

This fella knows but want to test me....

LOL!!!

Not test you lar... see what is your opinion only...

You the sifu mah..

This post has been edited by gark: Mar 9 2015, 05:31 PM

LOL!

MY way is ......
will have its own shortcomings on certain scenarios...
I know.
I know you know too...
and I certainly know you know that I know you know.............

LOL!

oil price so low use oil la.. why use gas?

you letting go? i'm looking to go in again.

I agree with your statement as to why did Petdag's shares sore extremely high initially due to new petrol stations that are being opened.

Here is just my point of view?

(a) Why invest in petronas particularly ?


1.
Most people use Petronas as their preferred choice of petrol. Im not saying everyone but most as being observed by the past. Friends, families, guys from car clubs such as Porsche Club Malaysia & Malaysian Super Cars club have a huge percentage of members that usually incline towards using Petronas rather than its competitors such as Shell, Caltex.... Now you might say that the sample size of the population that i choose isn't large enough to come up to a conclusion but i guess its pretty decent to be used as a gauge to estimate the number of Petronas "fans" aka users.Have done some travelling and realised that the Petronas stations are the ones that are usually full especially in rest house areas.

2.
Looking at past charts and graphs has given me confidence that its pretty easy for Petronas to maintain a minimum share price of around RM23- RM25 in the long run.

Why so ?

a. Peoples preferred petrol brand
b. Oil prices could probably reach an all time low of maybe 10-15 dollars a barrel as what some economist/traders
have predicted but it would eventually have to return back.
c. There has been thousands of research that has claimed that we are reaching an era in which oil shortage may be
an issue. (When supply goes down and demand remains the same, keeping the other factors as ceteris paribus,
prices would eventually raise to meet the new equilibrium point.

* So i guess the key strategy here would be to start buying every time it drops significantly when ever its below RM16.

So what happens when oil prices rebound ?
a. People would still use Petronas as their preferred choice
b. Petronas constantly comes up with new methods to drill oil with an aim of lowering the cost
c. Profits start increasing as demand increases
d. More people would start investing in the O&G sector which would eventually drive share prices up
e. Finally, investors like us that entered and managed to average our share prices out could be sitting relaxedly
while receiving a handsome return



If my memory serves me right, Petdagang did reach an all time low of about RM14.60 (something) and i really wanted to get into the market but gesh was busy with my final exams If i did buy it at 14.60 and sold it at todays price, i would have easily made about RM300+++ per lot in which i really regret for not doing lol


Does my analysis sound right huh Boon3 ? Looking forward for your guidance.


Cheers!


*Please don't forget to recommend us as to any "potential shares" that you foresee would be doing well





-edited: spelling

This post has been edited by shankar_dass93: Mar 9 2015, 08:24 PM

Gas is always cheaper than fuel oil... and it burns cleaner too. If oil is cheap, then natural gas will be even cheaper.

Can hardly find any industry using fuel oils for their burners and boilers now.. all switched to coal or gas.

This post has been edited by gark: Mar 9 2015, 08:46 PM