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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V), Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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szaku89
post Aug 24 2015, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(theberry @ Aug 24 2015, 09:25 PM)
cash out variable unit now or buy some? since 3k huge loss liao  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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How many % lost? Why not wait for another few years for it to bounce back? Do you need the money?
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post Aug 24 2015, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(szaku89 @ Aug 24 2015, 09:29 PM)
How many % lost? Why not wait for another few years for it to bounce back? Do you need the money?
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i bought 1.0930 serunit last time. that 0.114 difference vmad.gif
no ler, cause i have no idea how many years will it takes to rebounce.


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post Aug 24 2015, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(theberry @ Aug 24 2015, 09:33 PM)
i bought 1.0930 serunit last time. that 0.114 difference  vmad.gif
no ler, cause i have no idea how many years will it takes to rebounce.
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Chill, it's only a 10% down. If you invested in stock market, I think you will have heart attack already.
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post Aug 24 2015, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 24 2015, 09:28 PM)
U hold 70% cash now?
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Cash , FD , bond in 70%
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post Aug 24 2015, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(szaku89 @ Aug 24 2015, 09:39 PM)
Chill, it's only a 10% down. If you invested in stock market, I think you will have heart attack already.
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This moment should purchase derivatives , warrant or structured investment , it will help good return rate
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post Aug 24 2015, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(theberry @ Aug 24 2015, 09:25 PM)
cash out variable unit now or buy some? since 3k huge loss liao  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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Status quo
If u cash out, where u intend to invest?
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post Aug 24 2015, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 24 2015, 09:47 PM)
Status quo
If u cash out, where u intend to invest?
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Withdraw all, put into FD and ASX lol.
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post Aug 24 2015, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(szaku89 @ Aug 24 2015, 09:50 PM)
Withdraw all, put into FD and ASX lol.
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post Aug 24 2015, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 24 2015, 09:00 PM)
Folks,

This is for people that do not understand how RM drop affect fixed price ASx.  And, they still dump money into ASx.

1) Most of your savings are in EPF and they are invested in GLC and Malaysia Government's Bond.  Now, you put money into ASx, you are putting all eggs in ONE basket.  For bumi, due to political reason, it is SAFE for them to invest in ASB.  For non-bumi, if anything went wrong, your ASx will be used to bail out ASB.

2) With RM crashing down, how does the fixed price ASx help you?? The depreciation of RM will wipe out any dividend that you get.

3) KLSE is crashing down.  ASx is invested in GLC and MGS.  So, how can it be fixed at RM1?? There is a buffer.  So, whoever withdraw and can be paid out at RM1 will have the money.  So, what happened when the buffer run out and the ASx need to sell the actual share that had went down??

Do not put all your eggs in ONE basket.  This problem is not going to be fixed any time.  Oil price is not coming back up any time soon.

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post Aug 24 2015, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 24 2015, 09:59 PM)
Worried? Hehe...

1) Whole Malaysia using TNB, majority uses TM and Astro. Cookie jar is always full. PNB already said will have announcement if got changes.
2) Every year, ASX have been saving dividend.
3)The depreciation of RM will wipe out any dividend that you get.
What about FD? Interest earned will be wipe out more compare to ASX.
4) KLSE going to crash. Didn't KLSE crash badly in 1998? Some thing will happen. Some kind of control will be put in place to prevent people from moving money overseas. Very sure on this one. That's the only thing they can do. History have shown they have give consistently high dividends without fail.
5) Oil is not going to rise. True. But from previous records I believe ASX have enough reserve to last at least 5 years. Anything can happen in 5 years.

Yes. I agree with dreamer. Do not put all eggs in one basket. Best place to diversify will be SGREITS. Dividends more can reach ASX level. But for now ASX, will be enough for me. Not going to put all in ASX. Some will go to FD also.


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post Aug 24 2015, 10:28 PM

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Some of them who hold shares already suffering up to 50% lost of value.
Poor people like me does not have enough bullet to buy different types of stocks to spread out the risk, can only afford to park some cash into ASX.
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post Aug 24 2015, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 24 2015, 10:22 PM)
Worried? Hehe...

1) Whole Malaysia using TNB, majority uses TM and Astro. Cookie jar is always full. PNB already said will have announcement if got changes.
2) Every year, ASX have been saving dividend.
3)The depreciation of RM will wipe out any dividend that you get.
What about FD? Interest earned will be wipe out more compare to ASX.
4) KLSE going to crash. Didn't KLSE crash badly in 1998? Some thing will happen. Some kind of control will be put in place to prevent people from moving money overseas. Very sure on this one. That's the only thing they can do. History have shown they have give consistently high dividends without fail.
5) Oil is not going to rise. True. But from previous records I believe ASX have enough reserve to last at least 5 years. Anything can happen in 5 years.
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Not whole Malaysia using TNB. And ASTRO and TM are doing not so good considering a lot of their debts and costs are in USD.

Having said that, I still have faith ASX will remain as FP and still give out competitive dividend

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post Aug 24 2015, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(szaku89 @ Aug 24 2015, 10:28 PM)
Some of them who hold shares already suffering up to 50% lost of value.
Poor people like me does not have enough bullet to buy different types of stocks to spread out the risk, can only afford to park some cash into ASX.
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Major thunderstorm out there
Just stay where u r n u will b safe
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post Aug 24 2015, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 24 2015, 10:32 PM)
Major thunderstorm out there
Just stay where u r n u will b safe
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Care to share? About the thunderstorm?

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post Aug 24 2015, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(ohcipala @ Aug 24 2015, 10:29 PM)
Not whole Malaysia using TNB. And ASTRO and TM are doing not so good considering a lot of their debts and costs are in USD.

Having said that, I still have faith ASX will remain as FP and still give out competitive dividend
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got another company that supply electricity to house / office / factories? hmm.gif

yes not everyone use Astro or TM icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 24 2015, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 24 2015, 10:33 PM)
Care to share?
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Every asset class was punished badly
Y worry so much when ASNB have yet to make announcement

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QUOTE(ohcipala @ Aug 24 2015, 10:29 PM)
Not whole Malaysia using TNB. And ASTRO and TM are doing not so good considering a lot of their debts and costs are in USD.

Having said that, I still have faith ASX will remain as FP and still give out competitive dividend
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As far as I know whole WM uses TNB. Same goes with phone line in WM. Sure 90% uses TM line. I have seen poor people who cannot live without astro. What the hell.
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post Aug 24 2015, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 24 2015, 10:36 PM)
Every asset class was punished badly
Y worry so much when ASNB have yet to make announcement
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You meant on Bursa saham?
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post Aug 24 2015, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 24 2015, 10:34 PM)
got another company that supply electricity to house / office / factories?  hmm.gif

yes not everyone use Astro or TM  icon_rolleyes.gif
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In sarawak, there's only Sarawak Energy icon_idea.gif
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post Aug 24 2015, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(ohcipala @ Aug 24 2015, 10:38 PM)
In sarawak, there's only Sarawak Energy icon_idea.gif
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In Sabah, v have SEB brows.gif

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