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post Feb 8 2007, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(dildream @ Feb 8 2007, 11:16 PM)
Hi .. i am new here.. today i have gotten two hamster (winter white) for my wife as valentine gift.. the pet shop owner told me the basics of caring for it.. hope anyone out there kind enuff to answer me few questions..

1. Besides the basics of giving vitamins supplements and plenty of food and drinks.. what other needs does a hamster need?

2. What kind of diseases that hamster are prone too and how u tell whether the hamster is sick or not ( of course that is the last thIng i wan to happen) ? this is just to play it safe just in case if things go bad.. immediate action can take to solve it.. afterall first time keeping hamsters as pet..

3. how big the space required by hamster to live happily? Rite now the cute little ones are in Habitrail MiNi. Plan to extend their running spaces.. suggestions? I will be greatly apprreciate if anyone who are using Habitrail products share their picture of the set up for their love ones..

4. Is there any ideal room temperature that i should watch out for the hamster
( Hamster heat tolerance )?

Million thanks in advance... plan to increase their exercise area a.s.a.p. coz i think its a bit too small for two hamster especially the house but dunno what is the best for my wife's second lover haha kidding ....
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1. Get Prestige hamster. That's more than enough. Feed them carrots occasionally if you want.
2. prone to? Hmm.. diarrhea, cold, wet tail. Check the nose and the tail whether it's wet or not. You should be able to notice whether they're sick or not based on their activeness.
3. I'm using habitrail mini too. IMO, that cage only suits 1 hamster. What hamster is yours? If it's syrian then it's a big NoNo.. if it's dwarf, then it's not so bad.. but not recommended.
4. Hmmm.. heat tolerance? You obviously don't put it nearby a heat source like air cond compressor, car engine, etc.. of course.. not under the sun as well. I think our malaysian climate should be alright for them as long as there's ventilation and not under the sun.

Most people prefer getting a big tank. It's cheaper and safer. Bigger than cages too. ^^ Welcome to the hamster owners family.
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My anwser to you is in blue tongue.gif Really nice of you to get your wife such a lovely gift.

QUOTE(dildream @ Feb 8 2007, 11:16 PM)
Hi .. i am new here.. today i have gotten two hamster (winter white) for my wife as valentine gift.. the pet shop owner told me the basics of caring for it.. hope anyone out there kind enuff to answer me few questions..

1. Besides the basics of giving vitamins supplements and plenty of food and drinks.. what other needs does a hamster need?

Well, as long you have a water bottle and a food bowl full of food, then it is all good. Do give some fiberous food like rolled oats, dark green leafy vegies. You can give small treats like carrots, apples, pear... fruits that are crunchy and not citrius.

Also you can give them dried dog food or cat food as a supplement.


2. What kind of diseases that hamster are prone too and how u tell whether the hamster is sick or not ( of course that is the last thIng i wan to happen) ? this is just to play it safe just in case if things go bad.. immediate action can take to solve it.. afterall first time keeping hamsters as pet..

A hamster can get a few kinds of sickness. A hamster can get these:

over grown teeth
glaucoma
colds and flu
conjunctivitis
wet tail
skin infections
allergies from wood shavings
diabetes
parasite problems
tumours
cataracts

read this
http://www.hamsters-uk.org/modules.php?op=...rtid=147&page=1

3. how big the space required by hamster to live happily? Rite now the cute little ones are in Habitrail MiNi. Plan to extend their running spaces.. suggestions? I will be greatly apprreciate if anyone who are using Habitrail products share their picture of the set up for their love ones..

Erm, Habitrail Mini is a bit too small. The mini type is actually suitable for mice and roborovski hamsters... coz Winter Whites grow much bigger than Roborovskis and may have problems entering tunnles later when older. But you have already bought it.... would suggest you get hold of an extention tunnle and connect to another type of habitrail cage like Safari or Playground or Space Station.

You forgot to mention, males or females or both sexes? You do know they can breed non stop every 20 days rite?


4. Is there any ideal room temperature that i should watch out for the hamster
( Hamster heat tolerance )?

Hamsters do not tolerate heat well. Do not place hamsters outdoors... can get heat stroke and die.

Million thanks in advance... plan to increase their exercise area a.s.a.p. coz i think its a bit too small for two hamster especially the house but dunno what is the best for my wife's second lover haha kidding ....
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post Feb 8 2007, 11:47 PM

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how my hamster look like when playing game
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crazy petaling street got sell prestige? i may go there tmr.
eric- thanks i know already. but i also scared of the stove leh. coz the fire so big and hot. *kia*kia*(hokkien)

dildream , ur're so sweet to get such wonderful gift for ur wife.. (well, my hubby also bought a gilder for me last time) biggrin.gif haha...

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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Feb 8 2007, 11:52 PM)
crazy petaling street got sell prestige? i may go there tmr.
eric- thanks i know already. but i also scared of the stove leh. coz the fire so big and hot. *kia*kia*(hokkien)
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Petaling Street ah.... sometimes Petsmore got but I think recently they got no stock.... not sure lah.
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wah mercury, how ur hams Post ah?
Crazy- can buy those commercial hams treat? last time when i rear syrians i bought them those yogurt treats. smell nice and delicious.
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Yups, hamster treats are fine to give coz you only give once a while and not everyday. So yah, it is fine lah.
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Hi dildream here again.. babyfiona is my wife.. lazy to sign in using my own nick..

thanks for all the advice.. really appreciate them...

the hamster that i get for my wife is dwarf winter white..

crazymouse : what is the maximum size they can grow up to? as you were suggesting to connect to another cage? me planning to connect the accessories that is displayed on the box stages by stages linking them in a loop .. by then i guess should be enuff space for them to run about?

rite now my wife placed them in a room. normal room temperature. should i switched on the fan? I notice earlier today inside my room at the office, the hamster is like shivering maybe becoz of the air conditioning. So i dont really dare to suggest to my wife to put it inside air cond room at home.

btw.. anyone knows where to source for the best price item for habitrail products?

as for the gender.. hehe.. i forgot to ask the shop keeper how to differentiate the gender. Anyone mind telling me? according to the shop keeper.. the dwarf winter white is only 2-3 months old.. if my memory serves me correctly.. and nope i donno they multiply every 20 days

Thanks again for the info and help..

p/s: anyone mind to post their cage setup for reference? thanks!

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QUOTE(babyfiona @ Feb 9 2007, 12:19 AM)
Hi dildream here again.. babyfiona is my wife.. lazy to sign in using my own nick..

thanks for all the advice.. really appreciate them...

the hamster that i get for my wife is dwarf winter white..

crazymouse : what is the maximum size they can grow up to? as you were          suggesting to connect to another cage? me planning to connect the accessories that is displayed on the box stages by stages linking them in a loop .. by then i guess should be enuff space for them to run about?

rite now my wife placed them in a room. normal room temperature. should i switched on the fan? I notice earlier today inside my room at the office, the hamster is like shivering maybe becoz of the air conditioning. So i dont really dare to suggest to my wife to put it inside air cond room at home.

btw.. anyone knows where to source for the best price item for habitrail products?

as for the gender.. hehe.. i forgot to ask the shop keeper how to differentiate the gender. Anyone mind telling me? according to the shop keeper.. the dwarf winter white is only 2-3 months old.. if my memory serves me correctly.. and nope i donno they multiply every 20 days

Thanks again for the info and help..
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They do not grow very big... I would say lenght of 8cm but the width can be 4cm... but then it depends on how much your hamsters eat hahahah...

well, looping tubes isn't that great... coz it is so so troublesome to wash. Believe me, I experience that before... you would need lots of time to take everything apart and wash and disinfect the tubes and tunnels. Better just connect to another cage, less hassle.

Room temperature is ok. Actually, air cond is ok too. No, they are not shivering from cold.... sometimes hamsters shiver when they are afraid or feel danger. Again, the temperature cannot be low like 16C lah.... best is never below 24C... You will know hamsters are too hot when you notice that the mouth is very wet.

As for sex, do read the past few pages. I have already posted up pictures on how to see.

Habitrail prices are kinda fixed.... cheaper also is a few RM cheaper only. Go to Pet Family, they have a good variety.

If you have a male and female, best to seperate them. Do not worry. Hamsters prefer to live alone than in a pair.
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Where is this Pet Family located at??
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QUOTE(babyfiona @ Feb 9 2007, 01:10 AM)
Where is this Pet Family located at??
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At Taman Megah...
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 9 2007, 01:13 AM)
At Taman Megah...
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Taman MegaH? the petshop beside the er..what the name already hmm.gif the place to eat one..
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QUOTE(babyfiona @ Feb 9 2007, 01:17 AM)
Taman MegaH? the petshop beside the er..what the name already  hmm.gif the place to eat one..
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Yups, it is that place.
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QUOTE(babyfiona @ Feb 9 2007, 01:17 AM)
Taman MegaH? the petshop beside the er..what the name already  hmm.gif the place to eat one..
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Ming Tien... you can try feeding ur hamster mealworms. They sell it there. You need to ask the workers there though because they keep the mealworms in a room. Haha...
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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Feb 8 2007, 03:01 PM)
wad is cabut? will grow back one i think, we human hair also will grow back la unless got illness. is it got mites anot?
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cabut means plug lo... haha.. donno le.. its like someone shave off his fur =.="

QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 8 2007, 10:13 PM)

Hairless tummy? If that is the case, your hamster has developed an allergy to wood shavings. Do change to corn cob or Breeder's Celect.
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oh... allergic ar? means can grow back 1 hor? mayb i really should try to change the bedding d... since this happen...
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Thanks for the advice guys happy.gif

ok.. let say if i wanna add few hamster, do i need 1 cage/hamster ?
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post Feb 9 2007, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Feb 8 2007, 10:59 PM)
Kembara-> oh i noe the plastic string-like is it?
so u connect many strings together and tie on the top of the bottle then tie to the holes of the cover is it? then i hav to buy many teh-ice lo..aha.

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yes mochi that one...
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Then where is the pet shop at petaling street located?? Jalan pasar i know lah, but Petaling street one....wher??
Got any nice and cheap things to buy there?

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QUOTE(joanalooidog @ Feb 9 2007, 12:42 PM)
Then where is the pet shop at petaling street located?? Jalan pasar i know lah, but Petaling street one....wher??
Got any nice and cheap things to buy there?
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petaling street can be easiest reach by take lrt putra..turun at pasar seni..then search for OU 0r UO supermaket..then the petshop near thet road line..the first that you will meet will be petsmore that located opposite that supermarket mcd,then walk upper will meet two shop named..zoological pets something...then turn left walk lttle bit will meet another petshop..

i usually buy bottle and wheel there..cheaper than other place..animals not so good condition..petsmore ok i think..
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crazy and blueheng : mealworms? same kind of mealworms for arowana? can hamster take superworms too?

earlier i was saying the hamster was shivering.. Now i understand why they shiver.. coz in office i placed them temporary somewhere in direct blow of the air conditioning and the temperature for the air cond is 16C with 2Hp .. my bad..

hamster can lau sai ar taking meal worms? btw all the tunnels piping out there izzit of a same size (diameter)..

some pic here as a sincere grats for all ur advice biggrin.gif

my wife and me stayin in USJ 11.. anyone staying nearby also?


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