QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Mar 10 2015, 07:34 PM)
Besar juga kapal kita!
well 3100 kecil sahaja....kalau tidak ada TOT/IP, boleh dapat Fremm frigate 6000 tons
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 Mar 10 2015, 08:03 PM
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kalau tidak ada TOT/IP, boleh dapat Fremm frigate 6000 tons |
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Mar 10 2015, 08:03 PM
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Mar 10 2015, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Mar 10 2015, 08:03 PM) well 3100 kecil sahaja.... Mohon penjelasan on tot/ip. Thank you.kalau tidak ada TOT/IP, boleh dapat Fremm frigate 6000 tons |
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Mar 10 2015, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Mar 10 2015, 07:44 PM) Brahmos got ship launch or not? Brahmos not that good, Are we getting those too? Hahaha liquid-fueled outdated technology, very heavy and big ... not easy to design at ship，westing space and load. common using small size ASM at ship. |
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Mar 10 2015, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE(Dreadstar @ Mar 10 2015, 08:08 PM) with that amount of money we bought gowind with TOT/IP = at least 3 fremm we can get. I suppose our purpose is only patrol and defensive, so no need big tonnage. But cun juga ada kapal giler babi besar, can show off sikit! |
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Mar 10 2015, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Mar 10 2015, 08:12 PM) Mohon penjelasan on tot/ip. Thank you. tot = Transfer Of Technology IP = Tntellectual Property we by DCNS Gowind with TOT/IP |
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Mar 10 2015, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE(trollboy @ Mar 10 2015, 07:40 PM) Ayam quite happy with the ship and programme because 6 frigates is quite a huge upgrade I want ASTER 30 and still that MICA too for PDPls pray that we get at least essm instead of that crap mica |
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Mar 10 2015, 08:16 PM
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US army tanks arrive in Baltics amid mounting Russian invasion fears
     as usual.. start make thing worse. Then canot win, withraw and europe have to cover their own backside |
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Mar 10 2015, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Mar 10 2015, 08:15 PM) I want ASTER 30 and still that MICA too for PD Aster30/15? boleh keh? Radar pun tak sesuai |
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Mar 10 2015, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Mar 10 2015, 08:15 PM) tot = Transfer Of Technology Oh, that's why we can built it here is it?IP = Tntellectual Property we by DCNS Gowind with TOT/IP While the fremm cannot be build here? Correct? |
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Mar 10 2015, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 10 2015, 07:11 PM) It common knowledge.. look back on mig29 and f18 purchase ditto!f18 will most likely be purchase in small quantity, maybe second hand and upgraded or brand new ones All to keep our big bro happy  all our plane can do interception.. even c-130  just second tier is those jets radar can see the jet approximate speed, if slow moving then no need send MKM, hawk is good enough if fast, then just send MKM out or F18 QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 10 2015, 08:17 PM) Aster30/15? nope, kene letak firing radar lainboleh keh? Radar pun tak sesuai |
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Mar 10 2015, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Mar 10 2015, 08:18 PM) ditto! tu mass boleh suport separate radar keh? The model also look quite full. nope, kene letak firing radar lain Herakles? This post has been edited by thpace: Mar 10 2015, 08:22 PM |
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Mar 10 2015, 08:22 PM
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QUOTE(Dreadstar @ Mar 10 2015, 08:08 PM) with that amount of money we bought gowind with TOT/IP = at least 3 fremm we can get. at lease 5 unit fremm. Morocco Fremm just usd 470 million in 2009. in 2011 price just around usd 550-600 milion This post has been edited by waja2000: Mar 10 2015, 08:25 PM |
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Mar 10 2015, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Mar 10 2015, 08:13 PM) I suppose our purpose is only patrol and defensive, so no need big tonnage. 6000 tons still frigate, can provide better space, more system, can get better sea state, more stable in ocean, more stable went firing missile.But cun juga ada kapal giler babi besar, can show off sikit! |
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Mar 10 2015, 08:27 PM
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QUOTE(Dreadstar @ Mar 10 2015, 08:25 PM) not really ... our gov mindset is like what is good for country for every purchased. Gov dont follow exactly what the navy want. more to what is benefit for country. So they chose Gowind with TOT/IP.Yes extra pay.. but win for the navy and also win for local shipbuilding. At least our local shipbuilding learn how to build a warship in the future. That is how MY gov think. we have the right to our gowind designbasically, we can construct more if want.. Same case as our last time meko 100 |
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Mar 10 2015, 08:29 PM
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Indonesian Air Force in search for another AEW/C platforms and all of this effort is in line with the 11 Squadrons of 4th gen fighter in near future. Maybe US will offered us more freebies of F-16
http://www.antaranews.com/berita/484325/sa...epada-indonesia |
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Mar 10 2015, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(Dreadstar @ Mar 10 2015, 08:25 PM) not really ... our gov mindset is like what is good for country for every purchased. Gov dont follow exactly what the navy want. more to what is benefit for country. So they chose Gowind with TOT/IP.Yes extra pay.. but win for the navy and also win for local shipbuilding. At least our local shipbuilding learn how to build a warship in the future. That is how MY gov think. problem is never have future ship to be built, than wasting the TOT/IP, just like Meko 100, get TOT but never built next phase. event Gov reject Boustead propose design for the frigate. event our local ship building cant built 1xxx tons corvette.This post has been edited by waja2000: Mar 10 2015, 08:31 PM |
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Mar 10 2015, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE(madoka @ Mar 10 2015, 08:29 PM) Indonesian Air Force in search for another AEW/C platforms and all of this effort is in line with the 11 Squadrons of 4th gen fighter in near future. Maybe US will offered us more freebies of F-16 P8 Neptune? http://www.antaranews.com/berita/484325/sa...epada-indonesia |
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Mar 10 2015, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(madoka @ Mar 10 2015, 08:29 PM) Indonesian Air Force in search for another AEW/C platforms and all of this effort is in line with the 11 Squadrons of 4th gen fighter in near future. Maybe US will offered us more freebies of F-16 last time news said is indo built C-295 AEWhttp://www.antaranews.com/berita/484325/sa...epada-indonesia |
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Mar 10 2015, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 10 2015, 08:21 PM) tu mass boleh suport separate radar keh? The model also look quite full. not specific on the mass, on the top of the bridge also can Herakles?  |
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