Wow can do midair refueling... Anyone know if we are getting the tankers?

However, this operation would be a massive military undertaking. The force required to seize this area — approximately 222,740 square kilometers — and defeat the opposition there would need to number 91,000-135,000 troops and advance as much as 402 kilometers. Since the river could bolster defensive capabilities, the defensive force could remain roughly the same size as the attacking force. However, with a population of 13 million in the area, the additional troops that might be required for the counterinsurgency force could range from 28,000-260,000. Russia has approximately 280,000 ground troops, meaning that the initial drive would tie down a substantial part of the Russian military and that an intense insurgency could threaten Russia's ability to occupy the area even if it deployed all of its ground forces within Ukraine.  One positive aspect would be that this operation would take only 11-14 days to execute, even though it involves seizing a large area, because Russia could advance along multiple routes. On the other hand, the operation would require such a vast mobilization effort and retasking of Russian security forces that Moscow's intent would be detectable and would alarm Europe and the United States early on.

A similar scenario that has been considered is the seizing of the entire southern coast of Ukraine in order to connect Russia and its security forces in the Moldovan breakaway region of Transdniestria to Crimea. The logic goes that this would cripple Kiev by cutting off access to the Black Sea and would secure all of Russia's interests in the region in a continual arc. In terms of effort required, Russia essentially would be doubling the land bridge option. It would require an attacking force of 40,000-60,000 troops driving almost 645 kilometers to seize territory encompassing 103,600 square kilometers over 23-28 days. The required defensive force would number 80,000-112,000. This would also add a complicated and dangerous bridging operation over a large river. Moreover, the population in this region is approximately 6 million, necessitating 13,200-120,000 counterinsurgency troops.

Russia would have to drive more than 400 kilometers (250 miles) into an area encompassing 46,620 square kilometers, establish more than 450 kilometers of new defensive lines, and subdue a population of 2 million.    Taking this territory against the current opposition in Ukraine would require a force of around 24,000-36,000 personnel over six to 14 days. For defensive purposes, Russian planners would have to recognize the risk of NATO coming to Kiev's assistance. Were that to happen, Russia would have to expand the defensive force to 40,000-55,000 troops to hold the territory. 

The 6/8 corvette to replace the handalan/perdana/jerung gunboats etc ka??

well event new still ASW version/General propose version which lack of good air defense capability， Formidable class still best ship in Asean, event 10 year old by 2018.

From here they mention 2 times we planning 8 missile corvette. a mistake?
http://defencereviewasia.realviewtechnolog...113892#folio=28

I think someone from navy once said here that rmn wanted bigger displacement ships instead of few hundred ton boats
The dsme corvette feels more like enlarged gunboat than corvette though

official contract signing was 6 biji

maybe with option of 2 more

I think someone from navy once said here that rmn wanted bigger displacement ships instead of few hundred ton boats
The dsme corvette feels more like enlarged gunboat than corvette though

am abit confused on this 6 dsme corvette, rmn in chief itself denied the news, so how?  are we really getting dsme corvette or not

It signed with a local ship builder

It basically a done deal accordingly, just wait final approval and announcement

hope fully with NSM missile.

I think CMN FS56 quite suitable
Around 500 tons.. Decent radar, 8 mm40, 57mm bofors, SeaRAM
Mindef signed with local shipbuilder?

well handalan/perdana/jerung class only around 260 tons, increase to 600 tons is much ideal and more balance between capability vs crew vs cost., can install more electronic, ASM and SAM event  dual RIB, also have better crew space, also rest space and bigger galley.  more like current trend... navy using 500-600 tons boat.  and latest Thales Captas-1 sonar can install in 500 tons boat too. we cheap cost we can get more unit.

DSME corvette about 1500 tons. a bit too big. dont think can get big quantity。

Wait..
So local shipbuilder sign with dsme to build oredi but without knowledge of mindef??
Or isit mindef oredi know just that not involved in the contract yet

 

Not decided yet as i was told.. contract was for basic hull for now.

System to be decided in the future. Therefore the actual cost is fully known yet

I would prefer it to be built at SK and brought back here
Most probably will be cheaper and can order in bigger number as well. Here have to upgrade yard etc etc
nope.. local shipbuilder with DSME

Maybe LIMA 15 announcement or later. To be finalised

i remember read some where cost DSME corvette is usd 270 million per-ship.
anyway still wait for announcement. 

I think CMN FS56 quite suitable
Around 500 tons.. Decent radar, 8 mm40, 57mm bofors, SeaRAM
Mindef signed with local shipbuilder?

that their quotation.. belum tambah or minus what the exact combat system and any added extra the navy would want   

The only thing i dread.. with that much cost for gowind or corvette.. there not even a CIWS most likely will be installed 

at least letak Oerlikon Millennium 35 mm if dont  want extensive hull modification instead of that DSI 30mm gun

Haizz
Hishamuddin just told the star this year lima not much defence spending
Maybe wont even have any new deals

Published: Tuesday March 10, 2015 MYT 12:00:00 AM
Updated: Tuesday March 10, 2015 MYT 7:37:00 AM

‘Limited defence spending at LIMA’

by nicholas cheng

KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia may not sign any new deals on defence and security during the 2015 Langkawi International Maritime and Aerospace (LIMA) exhibition in light of the present economic conditions, says Defence Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Tun Hussein.

He hinted that Malaysia’s defence spending at LIMA this year would be limited while the ministry waits for the 11th Malaysia Plan rollout.

“In the present economic climate, Malaysia will have to base its spending needs on the threats it may have to face and whether the purchases are at the expense of more urgent procurement. There’s a limited amount of money for us,” he said at Wisma Pertahanan yesterday.

Hishammuddin said the ministry needed to be “creative” by sharing equipment as well as information with neighbouring countries to help maintain security in the region, especially in the Sulu Sea and the Strait of Malacca.

“We can not only share information, but also our assets to secure our own region. That’s the best way to do it and it’s a win-win for us. This is the message that I have passed on to my Asean colleagues and they are agreeable to it,” he added.

He also proposed that Asean members purchase new assets as a group.

“A single entity also makes better economic sense as companies may give all of us in Asean better deals. And Asean is one of the most populated regions in the world, with 600 million people,” he added.

Hishammuddin said during LIMA 2015, Malaysia would head talks on security in the Asia-Pacific region during the Asean Defence Minister’s Meeting (ADMM) on March 15, with the Islamic State threat expected to be the main agenda.

He also said defence ministers from the 10 Asean members were also expected to sign a new defence cooperation on dealing with humanitarian crisis under the “Asean Ready Group”.

The ministers would also address the possibility of having a joint Asean Peacekeeping Force to solve ongoing internal conflicts in the region.

This year’s LIMA exhibition marks the biggest defence expo in the event’s history, with more than 510 aerospace and maritime companies from 36 countries participating.

A total of 113 aircraft and 65 maritime vessels will be on display from March 17 to 21.

The Russian navy will be setting an international record by sending three ships here.

The event will also mark the first performance from China’s aerobatic team outside the republic.

Boeing Looking To Forge Partnerships With Industrial Players In Malaysia

Howard BerryBy Farhana Poniman & Massita Ahmad

KUALA LUMPUR, March 10 (Bernama) -- The Boeing Company, which again will have a big presence at the upcoming Langkawi International Maritime and Aerospace (LIMA) Exhibition, is committed to being in Malaysia for the long-haul by teaming up with industrial partners to bring about mutually beneficial outcomes.

Vice-President, F/A18E/F International Sales, Global Strike, Defense, Space and Security, Howard Berry, said the aircraft manufacturer was aware that merely offering a capable and affordable product was no longer adequate.

"We recognise the advantages of doing business in Malaysia and this is why sales in the Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MRCA) programme here are that more exciting for us.

"The Malaysian industry will benefit by getting the technology, job creations, interactions with major corporations and become part of the Boeing supply chain," he told Bernama in an interview recently.

"It is not enough anymore to merely offer a capable or affordable product."

"While those are the essentials, it is becoming more important to bring industrial benefits together with your offerings because governments are looking to make politically smart decisions and spending their money most wisely," he said.

Governments, he said, were not only putting out dollars to make important defense acquisitions but it is also for them to reap benefits industrially as well as generate jobs for the populace.

"I often view Malaysia as this big market that's not fully tapped, it is a good and affordable place to do business."

Malaysia is also doing a good job in very quickly becoming more and more technically advanced so we get the best of both worlds here in terms of affordability and capability and this allows for the opportunity to make further investments."

"We believe Malaysian industry benefits by getting the technology, job creations, interaction with major corporations and they get to become part of the Boeing supply chain," he said.

Berry said Boeing also planned to leverage on LIMA which would be held from March 17-21, as a platform to broaden its dialogue within potential customers in the Southeast Asia region.

Some of the assets Boeing would flaunt at the biennial exhibition include two Super Hornets, Boeing C-17 Globemaster III, Maritime Surveillance Aircraft (MSA), P-8 Poseidon, B-52 Stratofortress and F-15 Strike Eagle.

During the exhibition, Boeing would also bring images and models of its new AH-6i 'Little Bird' light attack/reconnaissance helicopter, which would suit the Royal Malaysian Air Force's needs, particularly given its porous borderline.

Berry said Boeing was optimistic that the Malaysian military would give the asset a keen consideration for acquisition.

When asked on any potential collaboration in engineering between Boeing and Malaysia, Berry did not discount the possibility given that the country was quickly becoming technically advanced and it was ready to climb up the value-chain.

"We have discussed with a number of Malaysian industrial entities on how we can bring Malaysian engineers to the United States for training as well as provide support for Boeing," he added.

He reiterated LIMA 2015 would yet be another opportunity to engage key customers in Southeast Asia and expose them to our products and services.

-- BERNAMA