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post Mar 11 2015, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Mar 11 2015, 12:50 AM)
dunno yet, I see where you going though so in future maybe can change or add aster system
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have to see also which Slyver as well A50 or A43
To fit Aster 30, need at least A50

Suddenly A35... *bang head*

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let see if the navy have plan ahead for future upgrade or already set in stone laugh.gif

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post Mar 11 2015, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 11 2015, 12:45 AM)
save my pisang tak payah goreng.. makan saja cry.gif  cry.gif

so  Sylver VLS as well? laugh.gif
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should be Sylver A35 only. A43/A50 no point to install it bcos Radar not support Aster 15/30.
so ok lah, if decide VL Mica, than accept it as ASW frigate.
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post Mar 11 2015, 10:37 AM

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Delivery of stealthy Zumwalt destroyer to Navy to be delayed

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The complexity of the stealthy Zumwalt destroyer will delay delivery of the first two ships.

The Navy says delivery of the Zumwalt, originally set for this summer, has been pushed back to November, and delivery of the second ship in the class is being pushed back a few months next year.

A third ship is on schedule for December 2018.

The warships are under construction at General Dynamics' Bath Iron Works in Maine.

Navy spokeswoman Cmdr. Thurraya Kent says the Zumwalt is 94 percent complete, but the complexity of the engineering and propulsion systems has required extended time for tests and activation.

The Zumwalt is the first electric-drive surface combatant built for the Navy since a line of destroyer escorts in the 1940s.

http://m.wmur.com/news/delivery-of-stealth...elayed/31713562
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Ukrainian Soldier Killed in Accident With Obsolete British Saxon APC


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Ukraine bought 75 Saxons from a British company, reportedly paying $50,000 per vehicle — a move that raised the eyebrows of military experts. British general Sir Richard Dannatt, who served as UK's Chief of the General Staff between 2006 and 2009, called the vehicles "quite useless." Others were less polite: Thomas Newdick in the popular blog "War is Boring" brought up memories of soldiers who rode in the APC, calling the vehicle an "armored bread van" and underscoring that the Saxon is extremely vulnerable in modern combat.

Nevertheless the first 20 Saxons arrived in Ukraine last month. And on Tuesday, an accident involving two of the APCs on the way from Kiev to the town of Berezan in the Kiev region resulted in the death of a Ukrainian soldier.

According to preliminary reports and eyewitness accounts, two APCs connected by a rigid tow hitch jackknifed, sending the leading vehicle to the left and the towed APC to the right, where it flipped and fell into a ditch. The driver of the leading APC, who reports say lost control of his vehicle, was killed. It is not known whether there was a driver or passengers in the towed APC.



UK Confirms Delivery of Out-of-Service Armored Vehicles to Ukraine
The two Saxons were part of an 8-vehicle transport operation along the Kiev-Kharkov highway. Law enforcement and officials from the military prosecutor’s office were on the scene and an investigation into the incident has been launched.

But there's little hope that the tragic incident will stop Ukrainian authorities from using the APCs that were scrapped by the British military years ago. After the cash-strapped country's leadership paid millions of dollars for the archaic vehicles and presented them as potential saviors for the Ukrainian military, it would be politically inconceivable to admit that the Saxons did more to put soldiers’ lives in danger than it did to protect them.

http://sputniknews.com/military/20150311/1019320581.html
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post Mar 11 2015, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 10 2015, 08:16 PM)
as usual.. start make thing worse. Then canot win,  withraw and europe have to cover their own backside
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Still haven't realized? US have always prepared to fight Russia to the last European. biggrin.gif

NATO should have been disbanded when the Warsaw pact collapsed. Now it is an army looking for an enemy to fight instead of a defensive alliance. US is using NATO as a dog leash to strap Europe into following US foreign policy.
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post Mar 11 2015, 12:28 PM

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MACC nets 5 ‘super rich’ Navy officers

IPOH, March 11 — They were middle-rank Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) personnel but the lifestyles they were leading seemed to be that of those with high-paying jobs.

The officers were not afraid of spending money on anything they wanted and did not flinch at the thought of being discovered with huge sums of cash, sources said.

The sources said it was this uncontrolled lust for self-gratification that finally led to their undoing.

On Monday evening, five RMN staff, including a female officer, were arrested by the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) in and around the naval base in Lumut.

They are being investigated for alleged corrupt practices involving naval procurement.

Nine civilians including a woman were also held the same evening. They were officials of companies supplying items to the navy.

The suspects, in their 20s to 50s, were picked up following intelligence reports they were involved in fixing procurement details.

The five navy staff, stationed at the naval dock in Lumut are believed to be staff from the procurement section.

Malay Mail learnt the five had been leading an opulent life and their illegal transactions amounted to millions.

A source familiar with the case said: “There are thousands of transactions handled by the navy’s dock procurement section everyday and the transactions are huge.

“The suspects were operating like a syndicate. The five navy suspects were earning their cuts by working with the civilian suspects.”

It is learnt the kickbacks received by the navy suspects were in the form of cash and account transfers.

“They were living a lavish lifestyle, spending heavily on personal items and assets,” said the source.

He said the MACC had obtained a remand order for the suspects as the commission feared documents on dealings and transactions would either be destroyed or hidden by the suspects or their accomplices.

The MACC, he said, needed to act fast to obtain statements from them.

Malay Mail understands the syndicate operated on “several levels” and investigators were probing if other officers, including high-ranking personnel, also had a hand in these dealings.

A seven-day remand order for the 14 was obtained from the Ipoh magistrate’s court yesterday and they will be remanded until next Monday.

A senior MACC officer confirmed the arrest, saying more are expected to be nabbed soon.

“The investigation into the navy procurement irregularities involves millions of ringgit,” he said.

“We will issue a statement on the case in the next few days.”

Malay Mail learnt that the male suspects are being detained for questioning at various police lock-ups around the city while the two women suspects will be remanded at the Perak MACC lock-up.

The navy personnel will be investigated under Section 17(a) of the MACC Act 2009 for accepting bribe while the civilians will be investigated under Section 17(b) of the same Act for giving bribe.

The swoop against the navy personnel comes in the wake of the crackdown by MACC late last year against the officers from the Royal Malaysian Customs last year over liquor and cigarette smuggling that cost the government billions in lost taxes.

The MACC had also recently picked up 26 officers near the Malaysia-Thailand border for alleged links with petrol and diesel smugglers in Durian Burung, Kedah.

Last week, anti-graft busters also arrested the chief executive officer of a Felda subsidiary over the purchase of a RM40 million hotel in Port Dickson, Negri Sembilan.

A businessman, in his 40s, who acted as the middleman was also arrested last week.

- See more at: http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia...n.purT1Rpo.dpuf
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PLAAF J10 now on the way to Langkawi LGK 1330H.
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post Mar 11 2015, 12:47 PM

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where they stop for refuel ....
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Ethiopia Spends Very Little Money on Its Military — And It Works

The question is … how?

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By African standards, the dollar amount spent—around $330 million per year or so depending on the source—is middling. Ethiopia is one of the few countries on the continent that decreased its defense budget during the past decade, according to data from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute.  Despite this, Ethiopia has one of the strongest armies in Africa, arguably outmatched only by Egypt, Algeria and South Africa. And these three countries spend far more on their militaries, both in per capita terms and in actual dollars, than Ethiopia.


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Ethiopia fields more than 135,000 soldiers and hundreds of T-55 and T-72 tanks. Boosting this firepower, Ethiopia bought 200 more T-72 tanks from Ukraine in 2011.  Its air force is tiny, but fields a diverse group of older Russian fighters and more capable Su-27s and Czech-made L-39 trainers. The landlocked country, to be sure, has no navy.  The Ethiopian army is currently the fourth largest contributor to peacekeeping missions in the world when it comes to raw manpower. In short—don’t mess with Ethiopia.


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Ethiopia invested heavily in training and producing its own weapons. Addis Ababa now makes its own version of the AK-47 rifle and PKM machine gun. It assembles its own grenade launchers and ammunition. The country’s arms industry can manufacture and refurbish tanks and armored vehicles—although they’re older Soviet-style models.  Ethiopia also churns out a lot of hardware for other African militaries engaged in peacekeeping. The country is the main weapons manufacturer for the African Union.


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Politicians and generals around the world often argue that bigger budgets and military effectiveness have a direct correlation — like a formula that shows an army getting tougher the more money you pour into it.  But a bloated budget can lead to a military being worse off—if a country squanders the money and spends it on the wrong things.  “In emphasizing troop training and modern, domestically produced, equipment, [Ethiopia] has managed to keep its military expenditures low, its armed forces well prepared, and its territory relatively safe from attack,” OE Watch stated.


https://medium.com/war-is-boring/ethiopia-s...ks-1be0d725f8a9
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QUOTE(WestCoast @ Mar 11 2015, 12:28 PM)
MACC nets 5 ‘super rich’ Navy officers

IPOH, March 11 — They were middle-rank Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) personnel but the lifestyles they were leading seemed to be that of those with high-paying jobs.

The officers were not afraid of spending money on anything they wanted and did not flinch at the thought of being discovered with huge sums of cash, sources said.

The sources said it was this uncontrolled lust for self-gratification that finally led to their undoing.

On Monday evening, five RMN staff, including a female officer, were arrested by the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) in and around the naval base in Lumut.

They are being investigated for alleged corrupt practices involving naval procurement.

Nine civilians including a woman were also held the same evening. They were officials of companies supplying items to the navy.

The suspects, in their 20s to 50s, were picked up following intelligence reports they were involved in fixing procurement details.

The five navy staff, stationed at the naval dock in Lumut are believed to be staff from the procurement section.

Malay Mail learnt the five had been leading an opulent life and their illegal transactions amounted to millions.

A source familiar with the case said: “There are thousands of transactions handled by the navy’s dock procurement section everyday and the transactions are huge.

“The suspects were operating like a syndicate. The five navy suspects were earning their cuts by working with the civilian suspects.”

It is learnt the kickbacks received by the navy suspects were in the form of cash and account transfers.

“They were living a lavish lifestyle, spending heavily on personal items and assets,” said the source.

He said the MACC had obtained a remand order for the suspects as the commission feared documents on dealings and transactions would either be destroyed or hidden by the suspects or their accomplices.

The MACC, he said, needed to act fast to obtain statements from them.

Malay Mail understands the syndicate operated on “several levels” and investigators were probing if other officers, including high-ranking personnel, also had a hand in these dealings.

A seven-day remand order for the 14 was obtained from the Ipoh magistrate’s court yesterday and they will be remanded until next Monday.

A senior MACC officer confirmed the arrest, saying more are expected to be nabbed soon.

“The investigation into the navy procurement irregularities involves millions of ringgit,” he said.

“We will issue a statement on the case in the next few days.”

Malay Mail learnt that the male suspects are being detained for questioning at various police lock-ups around the city while the two women suspects will be remanded at the Perak MACC lock-up.

The navy personnel will be investigated under Section 17(a) of the MACC Act 2009 for accepting bribe while the civilians will be investigated under Section 17(b) of the same Act for giving bribe.

The swoop against the navy personnel comes in the wake of the crackdown by MACC late last year against the officers from the  Royal Malaysian Customs last year over liquor and cigarette smuggling that cost the government billions in lost taxes.

The MACC had also recently picked up 26 officers near the Malaysia-Thailand border for alleged links with petrol and diesel smugglers in Durian Burung, Kedah.

Last week, anti-graft busters also arrested the chief executive officer of a Felda subsidiary over the purchase of a RM40 million hotel in Port Dickson, Negri Sembilan.

A businessman, in his 40s, who acted as the middleman was also arrested last week.

- See more at: http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia...n.purT1Rpo.dpuf
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QUOTE(James Bum @ Mar 11 2015, 02:30 PM)
Bye LTZ it was nice to know you....
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So??
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Sunni Tribes And Iraqi Military Score Victories Against ISIS In Anbar With 'Tunnel Warfare'


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ISTANBUL -- Sunni tribal fighters in Iraq's Anbar province are fighting without the missiles and other heavy weaponry promised by the U.S., but they are scoring successes anyway against the Islamic State group with unconventional, and far less technological, methods. In a partnership with elite Iraqi military units, tribal fighters are digging tunnels throughout Anbar near the militants' outposts, lining them with explosives and detonating them. 

Fighters on the front line in Ramadi told International Business Times this kind of tunnel warfare has helped them kill dozens of militants of the Islamic State group, also known as ISIS or ISIL, in the past week, giving them the upper hand in the 2-month-old battle. Iraqi security forces announced this week that with the help the the Sunni tribes, they had pushed ISIS out of al-Baghdadi, a town that hosts hundreds of U.S. personnel at the Ain al-Asad air base.


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Videos obtained by IBTimes show members of the Iraqi military, the Anbar Central Command -- a security force that patrols the province -- and Sunni tribal fighters installing explosives in a tunnel in Ramadi. In the video, men are seen crawling out of the tunnels after finishing their dig to the ISIS outposts. Several men are seen talking about how one of the tunnel explosions killed nearly 50 ISIS militants in one day in February. 


http://m.ibtimes.com/sunni-tribes-iraqi-mi...warfare-1842838
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QUOTE(James Bum @ Mar 11 2015, 02:30 PM)
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this one in lumut. LTZ in sepanggar
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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 11 2015, 12:45 AM)
save my pisang tak payah goreng.. makan saja cry.gif  cry.gif

so  Sylver VLS as well? laugh.gif
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what's with the issue of MICA?

are they that bad? and if it's bad, why do we even purchase them?
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QUOTE(trollboy @ Mar 11 2015, 06:20 PM)
Its something like the tata nano of the sam world
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lol, now it's all cleared up.

so since all are talking about aster,

means aster is the roll royce of sam?

haha
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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Mar 11 2015, 06:16 PM)
what's with the issue of MICA?

are they that bad? and if it's bad, why do we even purchase them?
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It not bad, just for a ship that class or that price at least area defence capabilities. MICA basically limit it to point defence only . MICA is comparable to Aster 15 minus the booster and less versatile for layered defence. Look at SG Formidable class

Basically the radar purchase limits or should I say seal the MICA fate from early on.

If there no IP/TOT plus shipyard upgrade included. I would say we could get better weapon system
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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Mar 11 2015, 06:16 PM)
what's with the issue of MICA?

are they that bad? and if it's bad, why do we even purchase them?
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Mica ... we purchase more like no future thinking
- short range 20km only, not able to provide good self defense capability, simply weak fighting capability. at lease should go for new CAMM missile 25km range than can quadpack to each VLS cell, total become 32 unit defense missile.
- only single missile for each VLS cell. means our Gowind only have 8 unit defense missile. only 8 cell VLS we get.
- how do you think usd 500 million ship with so weak defense capability?
- Radar at Gowind only support Mica and ESSM and newest CAMM

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