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post Mar 5 2015, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Mar 5 2015, 09:51 AM)
It is questionable if the ECM is effective from 100+ km away, when they are already in SM-2 range of fire.

This is still an easy scenario....it is much more likely that they are already intercepted from 300km or more by carrier-based Hornets in war situation
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On the other hand, in a war scenario the Black sea will very probably be a virtual Russian lake. They may not be able to venture out into the Mediterranean, but in a practical situation the Russians would probably dominate the entire Black sea area via their Black sea fleet, Crimea-based planes and shore-based AShM and conventional SRBM missiles.
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post Mar 5 2015, 10:19 AM

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3 Royal Malaysian Navy men go on trial for incident at Lagoon Station (Terumbu Ubi),Labuan


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post Mar 5 2015, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Mar 5 2015, 10:13 AM)
On the other hand, in a war scenario the Black sea will very probably be a virtual Russian lake. They may not be able to venture out into the Mediterranean, but in a practical situation the Russians would probably dominate the entire Black sea area via their Black sea fleet, Crimea-based planes and shore-based AShM and conventional SRBM missiles.
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Yes.....too risky for US Navy to operate in Black Sea during wartime....better blockade the Bosporus strait and Aegean sea. Also need full presence of USAF in Turkey, Bulgaria and Romania to block any Tu-22M and Tu-160 strike
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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Mar 5 2015, 08:08 AM)
New small diameter bomb doesn’t fit inside Marines' F-35B

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/03/04/new...-marines-f-35b/
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rubbish plane now even have problem again laugh.gif
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post Mar 5 2015, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Mar 5 2015, 10:19 AM)
3 Royal Malaysian Navy men go on trial for incident at Lagoon Station (Terumbu Ubi),Labuan
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There's even an attempted cover up.
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post Mar 5 2015, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Mar 5 2015, 09:51 AM)
It is questionable if the ECM is effective from 100+ km away, when they are already in SM-2 range of fire.

This is still an easy scenario....it is much more likely that they are already intercepted from 300km or more by carrier-based Hornets in war situation
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no worry, most of ship attack by jet is using low fly, due to Earth horizon,US Destroyer SPY radar (apply to other radar) only can see su-30/su24 about 70km+- if both jet flying 10 meter about sea level. than release Anti-ship missile at this range. after this it depend how good destroyer to defense missile.

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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 5 2015, 10:32 AM)
rubbish plane now even have problem again laugh.gif
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new one like this loh, give F35 10 year to mature i think,
F35 still very new and have 40 year time to use
and still can have many improvement/upgrade for future.
for long run still worth. smile.gif

if get end life product, future improvement/upgrade is harder.

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post Mar 5 2015, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Mar 5 2015, 10:53 AM)
new one like this loh, give F35 10 year to mature i think,
F35 still very new and have 40 year time to use
and still can have many improvement/upgrade for future.
for long run still worth.    smile.gif
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f35 was designed to be a cheaper alternative to the f22 according to US high low mix

in end, entire program cost more than f22, more problems than f22 and and the only reason why it not shut down is because they are in too deep to come out

it not exactly fast by today fighter standard or nor it that agile...

what best, the idea of a universal platform for the air force, navy and marine just show its drawbacks.. if one platform have problem, the rest probably will as well laugh.gif

AUS and canada evaluation also highlight serious flaws but have to keep big brother happy
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post Mar 5 2015, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Mar 5 2015, 10:53 AM)
new one like this loh, give F35 10 year to mature i think,
F35 still very new and have 40 year time to use
and still can have many improvement/upgrade for future.
for long run still worth.    smile.gif

if get end life product, future improvement/upgrade is harder.
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Got too many initial problems that need fixing, even this stage of development it's projected that F-35 development cost have increased from $177 Billion USD to $331 Billion USD due to increased costs (even F-22 only cost $66 Billion USD in development cost, it's already damned expensive at $150 Million USD per plane).

Some experts project the final cost at production stage may reach Trillions of USDs. The fear is that incremental increases of cost potentially make the F-35 prohibitively too expensive for most users in the end. Who can afford to buy a $400 million USD fighter plane?
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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Mar 5 2015, 10:19 AM)
3 Royal Malaysian Navy men go on trial for incident at Lagoon Station (Terumbu Ubi),Labuan
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civilian court or court martial? hmm.gif
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post Mar 5 2015, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 5 2015, 11:04 AM)
f35 was designed to be a cheaper alternative to the f22 according to US high low mix
in end, entire program cost more than f22, more problems than f22 and and the only reason why it not shut down is because they are in too deep to come out
it not exactly fast by today fighter standard or nor it that agile...
what best, the idea of a universal platform for the air force, navy and marine just show its drawbacks.. if one platform have problem, the rest probably will as well laugh.gif
AUS and canada evaluation also highlight serious flaws but have to keep big brother happy
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yaloh,

but i think Navy still order some unit F35 like 250 unit before go to navy plan 6 Gen fighter.
anyway F35 advance technology still there. brows.gif

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post Mar 5 2015, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Mar 5 2015, 11:15 AM)
Got too many initial problems that need fixing, even this stage of development it's projected that F-35 development cost have increased from $177 Billion USD to $331 Billion USD due to increased costs (even F-22 only cost $66 Billion USD in development cost, it's already damned expensive at $150 Million USD per plane).

Some experts project the final cost at production stage may reach Trillions of USDs. The fear is that incremental increases of cost potentially make the F-35 prohibitively too expensive for most users in the end. Who can afford to buy a $400 million USD fighter plane?
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western block go eastern block planes... brows.gif

QUOTE(waja2000 @ Mar 5 2015, 11:28 AM)
yaloh,

but i think Navy still order some unit F35 like 250 unit before go to navy plan 6 Gen fighter.
anyway F35 advance technology still there.    brows.gif
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have to no choice... how to justify after so much development but no buyers.. congress will cut it off if such scenario
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Mar 5 2015, 11:15 AM)
Got too many initial problems that need fixing, even this stage of development it's projected that F-35 development cost have increased from $177 Billion USD to $331 Billion USD due to increased costs (even F-22 only cost $66 Billion USD in development cost, it's already damned expensive at $150 Million USD per plane).

Some experts project the final cost at production stage may reach Trillions of USDs. The fear is that incremental increases of cost potentially make the F-35 prohibitively too expensive for most users in the end. Who can afford to buy a $400 million USD fighter plane?
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now F35 project cost already reach 400 billion.
F35 not expensive actually for now, event more cheaper procurement cost year to year.
Offcouse went we (country AF) bought F35 price not add much development cost in.
just like Japan F35 purchase cost at usd 175 million each with support. and South Korea F35 price usd 171 million each with Support/training/Parts.
than u see Oman EF2000,Brazil JAS39 EF, Egypt Rafale procurement, cost usd 150 million to 180 million with Support/training/Parts.
we should aware jet fighter price increase year by year.




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post Mar 5 2015, 12:11 PM

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Guys where is the best Killing House in Malaysia? need to study one lor...for QCB use nia

already wented to VAT 69 & GGK Killing House...GGK one damn impressive....any other good ones ar
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Mar 5 2015, 10:40 AM)
no worry, most of ship attack by jet is using low fly,  due to Earth horizon,US Destroyer SPY radar (apply  to other radar) only can see su-30/su24 about 70km+- if both jet flying 10 meter about sea level. than release Anti-ship missile at this range.  after this it depend how good destroyer to defense missile.

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Useful...if there's no nearby carrier with its Hawkeye and Hornet
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China's CJ-10 cruise missile is officially renamed DF-10

The Second Artillery Corps, China's strategic missile force, recently changed the name of its Changjiang-10 or CJ-10 land-based cruise missile to the Dongfeng-10 or DF-10, the Sina Military Network based in Beijing reported on Mar. 4.

With an attack range of between 1,500-2,500 km, the DF-10 is designed particularily to strike at US carrier battle groups in the Western Pacific. The official Chinese media claimed that a single warhead carried by a DF-10 missile can sink a 10,000-ton vessel. The missile captured the attention of military experts around the world after its first public appearance in the military parade held in 2009 to mark the 60th anniversary of the founding of the People's Republic of China.

A variant of the DF-10 called the KD-20 was also designed for the PLA Air Force to launch from the air. Designed to be launched from the H-6K strategic bomber, the attack range of the KD-20 is estimated at between 2,000 and 2,200 kilometers. The design of the DF-10 missile incorporates elements of Soviet Kh-55 cruise missiles. China may also have acquired American Tomahawk missiles from Pakistan and Afghanistan during the development of the DF-10.

http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclas...000037&cid=1101


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Military experts say aircraft carriers are no longer as advantageous as they were during World War II and must work to improve the defensive capabilities of their carrier battle groups. Advancements in weapons technology are now said to be so advanced that carriers have become vulnerable to multi-axis attacks and even small gunboats or corvettes.


http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclas...000095&cid=1101

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Singapore armed forces changing the V200 to Renault Trucks Defense HIGUARD 6x6 armoured truck.

Superpuma will also be replaced, my guess is the MRH90.

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In face of 'hybrid warfare', SAF must constantly remake itself: Ng Eng Hen


SINGAPORE: The security threats the Republic is facing is constantly evolving - which is why the Singapore Armed Forces must constantly "remake itself" to ensure it is able to nullify the evolving threats the Republic could face, said Defence Minister Dr Ng Eng Hen.

At the Committee of Supply 2015 debate in Parliament on Thursday (Mar 5), Dr Ng highlighted the need to be able to take on hybrid warfare - which he described as an orchestrated campaign to fracture the solidarity of the target nation through undermining its defences in civil, economic, social, psychological and military spheres - as one such threat.

While a recent incarnation of "hybrid warfare" is the rise of the Islamic State, the concept of hybrid warfare "is as old as war itself", Dr Ng said.

"This is why we launched Total Defence in 1984. What is new is the amplification of dis-information due to social media. No country, including Singapore, is immune to this dis-information war," he said.

"The SAF will further leverage new technologies to respond to security challenges both externally and internally. New units for cyber defence are being raised. Better capabilities using infocomm technology, robotics and artificial intelligence are in the pipe-line for testing and integration into existing systems."

For example, the Navy is replacing Patrol Vessels with Littoral Mission Vessels; the Army will use new Protected Response Vehicles in place of the V200; while Super Pumas, which have been in use for almost 30 years, will be replaced over the next decade. Some new technology Singapore is exploring includes the use of Unmanned Ground Vehicles and Unmanned Surface Vessels to conduct security patrols.

All this points to a restructured SAF that is "leaner, more potent and versatile, without any loss of effectiveness", he told Parliament.

"PEOPLE REMAIN OUR GREATEST ASSET"

But even with advancing military techonology, servicemen - particularly National Servicemen - remain the SAF's greatest asset.

"Even with the most advanced military technologies and equipment, we constantly remind ourselves that our people remain our greatest and indispensable asset," said Dr Ng.

"It is ultimately the strong fighting spirit of our Soldiers, Airmen and Sailors, as well as the quality of leadership, that will allow the SAF to deter aggression and when that fails, prevail over potential aggressors. We cannot build an effective force without capable and committed servicemen, particularly NSmen who form the bulk of the SAF’s fighting force."

Dr Ng also emphasised the importance of building up a strong defence during a time of peace.

"Never take our peace for granted. Never weaken the strong defence that we have built up over the years through neglect and complacency. The time to build up a strong defence is during peace," he told Parliament.

"A strong deterrence is Singapore’s best defence. When danger is upon you, it will be too little and too late to build up a defence. Contrary to expectations that peace and stability one enjoys today will last, things can go wrong."

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singap...re/1696812.html

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post Mar 5 2015, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(xtemujin @ Mar 5 2015, 05:48 PM)
Singapore armed forces changing the V200 to Renault Trucks Defense HIGUARD 6x6 armoured truck.

Superpuma will also be replaced, my guess is the MRH90.

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why we no sell them our gempita?

seem gooding yo...

by the way, does all these apc comes with safety features like ABS, ESC and etc?

summoning thpace

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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Mar 5 2015, 06:48 PM)
why we no sell them our gempita?

seem gooding yo...

by the way, does all these apc comes with safety features like ABS, ESC and etc?

summoning thpace

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because they already have terrex

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