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post Dec 6 2017, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(damnkids01 @ Dec 6 2017, 10:56 AM)
another one.. DOUBLE CREDITS
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Double credits?

I thought its just 50% more silvers? while the bonus mostly offset by expensive HEAT shells
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QUOTE(air @ Dec 6 2017, 12:58 PM)
Double credits?

I thought its just 50% more silvers? while the bonus mostly offset by expensive HEAT shells
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if i rmb correctly, this tank is special, its 200% not 150%.. quickybaby mentioned it as well
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QUOTE(air @ Dec 6 2017, 11:02 AM)
haha added to my post.

After these tries, I can confirm using AP ammo with this gun is super pitiful & crying accuracy & I am looking for another way to earn better silvers.

Next trials will be on its suspension and vehicle control:

1. Off-road + clutch braking, Sixth sense + BIA, rest all repairs
2. Rammer(optional)/Enhanced suspension/toolbox/Vents/Wet Rack
3. See how far I can push this tank's speed & traverse for a flanking role.
4. Speed VS track repair speed (need to gauge from Equipments/skills)

Having a decent heavy tank to flank enemies/behind might yield a better outcome?
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This tank you need to know where to go base on early judgement, at the start of the match, if your side got other tanky or deadly tank, try to assist them, bait enemy high tier to fire at you will help securing a HT battle win, if they don't aim at you, go a little bit aggressive and force them. If you have HT team with thick armor use them as cover. If you look at the list and there is not much TD or high pen MT go for those instead, most of the time when you are in the frontline do a short push forward then reverse like dancing, 3 short step front 1 back step to original position make enemy very hard to shoot at your lower plate. the 175 pen is not good against enemy face to face, its always used to flank shots to the side and back. I would say this is kind of a recon tank, its strength is to bully weaker tank and bait shots from top tier tank.

It would be a mistake to lead the frontline with this tank unless you are very skill at angling your frontal position to bounce shot.

QUOTE(damnkids01 @ Dec 6 2017, 03:47 PM)
if i rmb correctly, this tank is special, its 200% not 150%.. quickybaby mentioned it as well
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yes, this tank earn more credit then other premium, confirm by dying and doing nothing on both skoripon G and this tank.
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post Dec 7 2017, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(mowlous @ Dec 6 2017, 05:20 PM)
This tank you need to know where to go base on early judgement, at the start of the match, if your side got other tanky or deadly tank, try to assist them, bait enemy high tier to fire at you will help securing a HT battle win, if they don't aim at you, go a little bit aggressive and force them. If you have HT team with thick armor use them as cover. If you look at the list and there is not much TD or high pen MT go for those instead, most of the time when you are in the frontline do a short push forward then reverse like dancing, 3 short step front 1 back step to original position make enemy very hard to shoot at your lower plate. the 175 pen is not good against enemy face to face, its always used to flank shots to the side and back. I would say this is kind of a recon tank, its strength is to bully weaker tank and bait shots from top tier tank.

It would be a mistake to lead the frontline with this tank unless you are very skill at angling your frontal position to bounce shot.
yes, this tank earn more credit then other premium, confirm by dying and doing nothing on both skoripon G and this tank.
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Dancing and baiting shots for more than couple of minutes, is quite boring to me... and its pike nose front hull design... can do only half/hull angling to hide the inner pike side OR side scraping... Either how the front hull will be PEN by more than 220mm shots...

The more I play this tank, the more I feel I need to max off-road driving + crutch braking asap to make use of its flanking speed for better contribution.

Since it earns way more credits than other premium, my method of spamming this tank without getting boring is keep trying to flank the frontline/support on the side as much as possible before dying, while using ONLY the AP rounds.

Using more than 8 HEAT rounds 250 pen will almost always result in no net profit/rugi...

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post Dec 7 2017, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(air @ Dec 7 2017, 12:24 PM)
Dancing and baiting shots for more than couple of minutes, is quite boring to me... and its pike nose front hull design... can do only half/hull angling to hide the inner pike side OR side scraping... Either how the front hull will be PEN by more than 250mm shots...

The more I play this tank, the more I feel I need to max off-road driving + crutch braking asap to make use of its flanking speed for better contribution.

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Since it earns way more credits than other premium, my method of spamming this tank without getting boring is keep trying to flank the frontline/support on the side as much as possible before dying, while using ONLY the AP rounds.

Using more than 8 HEAT rounds 250 pen will almost always result in no net profit/rugi...
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True, this type of tank is what they call a magic bullet tank, it takes some used to to master bouncing shells, much like is-3 and is-7 .... many people say its bouncy, but what makes it bouncy isn't the armor, its the turret and angling at some point, when enemy shoot if your pike aren't directly against the direction high chance it will go trough, a slight change in direction can bounce even 311 pen.

The way to earn good credits with this tiger is to catch enemy off guard and pump as many shells into their side and back as you can, the alpha dmg is very good and if you can land few shots you will be already earning few match worth of credits. In very very rare situation you would ever spend HEAT unless you absolutely have to ....... something like maybe last tank vs last tank and enemy tank has thick armor, or taking out super important tanky tank to be able to crush their weak support.

I would say see this as a perspective of training close combat, its a good tank to train on with close encounters. From time to time you will face players that is seemingly invincible with this sort of tank, which means they have a lot of experience in driving this type of tank, you will need to be able to get into their mind set on how the tank works in order to work out a way to deal with them. Simply having high pen gun aren't going to dispatch them at all unless he is surrounded.

I'm speaking base on the perspective of having played those tank and bounce skorpion g's bullets even against 311 bullets. And also deal with this type of enemy as a skorpion g. Once you get the hang of it you will immediately know if enemy is experience or a freshmen.

I remember there is a very pro player on this type of tank once told me that even though your pike can bounce bullet if you can try not to show them at all, expert player would only present the turret to enemy and only show body when there is no dig down option. But that being said its much harder to do that in reality.
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post Dec 8 2017, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(mowlous @ Dec 7 2017, 01:50 PM)
True, this type of tank is what they call a magic bullet tank, it takes some used to to master bouncing shells, much like is-3 and is-7 .... many people say its bouncy, but what makes it bouncy isn't the armor, its the turret and angling at some point, when enemy shoot if your pike aren't directly against the direction high chance it will go trough, a slight change in direction can bounce even 311 pen.

The way to earn good credits with this tiger is to catch enemy off guard and pump as many shells into their side and back as you can, the alpha dmg is very good and if you can land few shots you will be already earning few match worth of credits. In very very rare situation you would ever spend HEAT unless you absolutely have to ....... something like maybe last tank vs last tank and enemy tank has thick armor, or taking out super important tanky tank to be able to crush their weak support.

I would say see this as a perspective of training close combat, its a good tank to train on with close encounters. From time to time you will face players that is seemingly invincible with this sort of tank, which means they have a lot of experience in driving this type of tank, you will need to be able to get into their mind set on how the tank works in order to work out a way to deal with them. Simply having high pen gun aren't going to dispatch them at all unless he is surrounded.

I'm speaking base on the perspective of having played those tank and bounce skorpion g's bullets even against 311 bullets. And also deal with this type of enemy as a skorpion g. Once you get the hang of it you will immediately know if enemy is experience or a freshmen.

I remember there is a very pro player on this type of tank once told me that even though your pike can bounce bullet if you can try not to show them at all, expert player would only present the turret to enemy and only show body when there is no dig down option. But that being said its much harder to do that in reality.
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Yesterday having a good game streaks, able to intercept HTs' sides and rear within cities, having 70% of the light tank speed does helps a lot (Thanks to in progress offroad driving), silvers keep rolling into my pockets~

Alpine tiger's top speed is just the engine speed limit, with fresh crews, it will almost never hit past 40kmh even on flat ground... With 70% Off road I able to hit 45kmh consistently on soft terrain...

With such speed, Alpine can direct take shortcut and rush into some choke points and hold the position better than LT/MTs, it can further pressure the flanking sides by simply charging frontally, since not much MTs/TDs can chill and PEN your Alpine when u rushing in high speed.

Now next my Alpine need Clutch braking and BIA+vents for further hull control in order to compete fast MTs/LTs/TDs... it might sounds weird using HT to play like this, but 175 PEN gun is beyond despair...

Just bought Challenger and used it on couple of battles: (BIA + Camo maxed with some skills on progress)

1. Control slightly lesser than FV4202
2. Speed acceleration much better than FV4202 & SKG
3. 300 damage 30 pdr can let enemy feel way more painful than FV4202 gun
4. Very odd avenger turret hull, 200mm armor at the REAR of the turret
5. The experience is like in the middle between Skorpion G & FV4202, but definitely better experience than both especially on slopes (SKG cant have 10 degree depression on slopes, FV4202 alpha damage too low and cant overmatch STRV-S1)
6. Facing only up to tier 9, thats make a lot difference than SKG/FV4202
7. The only downside is, 900hp with little armor thus cant even do minimum brawl, and its not premium vehicle

I expect Charioteer performance will be better than this Challenger, Conway might be worse experience than SKG due to dispersion & lower shell speed

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post Dec 8 2017, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(air @ Dec 8 2017, 09:20 AM)
Yesterday having a good game streaks, able to intercept HTs' sides and rear within cities, having 70% of the light tank speed does helps a lot (Thanks to in progress offroad driving), silvers keep rolling into my pockets~

Alpine tiger's top speed is just the engine speed limit, with fresh crews, it will almost never hit past 40kmh even on flat ground... With 70% Off road I able to hit 45kmh consistently on soft terrain...

With such speed, Alpine can direct take shortcut and rush into some choke points and hold the position better than LT/MTs, it can further pressure the flanking sides by simply charging frontally, since not much MTs/TDs can chill and PEN your Alpine when u rushing in high speed.

Now next my Alpine need Clutch braking and BIA+vents for further hull control in order to compete fast MTs/LTs/TDs... it might sounds weird using HT to play like this, but 175 PEN gun is beyond despair...

Just bought Challenger and used it on couple of battles: (BIA + Camo maxed with some skills on progress)

1. Control slightly lesser than FV4202
2. Speed acceleration much better than FV4202 & SKG
3. 300 damage 30 pdr can let enemy feel way more painful than FV4202 gun
4. Very odd avenger turret hull, 200mm armor at the REAR of the turret
5. The experience is like in the middle between Skorpion G & FV4202, but definitely better experience than both especially on slopes (SKG cant have 10 degree depression on slopes, FV4202 alpha damage too low and cant overmatch STRV-S1)
6. Facing only up to tier 9, thats make a lot difference than SKG/FV4202
7. The only downside is, 900hp with little armor thus cant even do minimum brawl, and its not premium vehicle

I expect Charioteer performance will be better than this Challenger, Conway might be worse experience than SKG due to dispersion & lower shell speed
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As a general rule stay far behind the line with british TD, if you are anywhere close to mid or the frontline any HE shell can 1 shot you, even if they don't any dmg to your gun or turret you are as good as dead. Also, if you have not collect the free female crew the give you better collect now, once they roll the new patch your female crew will be gone forever if you didn't collect it.

Put her in that nation you most played with, and maybe save her for future t9/t10 on that line.
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post Dec 8 2017, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(mowlous @ Dec 8 2017, 10:29 AM)
As a general rule stay far behind the line with british TD, if you are anywhere close to mid or the frontline any HE shell can 1 shot you, even if they don't any dmg to your gun or turret you are as good as dead. Also, if you have not collect the free female crew the give you better collect now, once they roll the new patch your female crew will be gone forever if you didn't collect it.

Put her in that nation you most played with, and maybe save her for future t9/t10 on that line.
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Zomg I still have 2 female crew ready to recruit... but the countries I am playing so far:

USSR : SU100Y & KV-2 (1 female commander allocated to KV-2)
UK : FV4202, AC 4 Ex, and Challenger (free female commander allocated to challenger)
German : Skorpion G (0 female)
China : Alpine tiger (0 female)

Should I put female crew on premium tanks instead? those 2 female crews I got is from Personal Mission, will they be gone after patch update?

How I wish I can trade my FV4202 to Primo Victoria~

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QUOTE(air @ Dec 8 2017, 10:46 AM)
Zomg I still have 2 female crew ready to recruit... but the countries I am playing so far:

USSR    : SU100Y & KV-2 (1 female commander allocated to KV-2)
UK        : FV4202, AC 4 Ex, and Challenger (free female commander allocated to challenger)
German : Skorpion G (0 female)
China    : Alpine tiger (0 female)

Should I put female crew on premium tanks instead? those 2 female crews I got is from Personal Mission, will they be gone after patch update?

How I wish I can trade my FV4202 to Primo Victoria~
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the female crew put in premium is the best if you have not decide which tank they are going, but remember it must be the premium tank that support that nation you wanted to play, if you put them in chinese premium they can only relocate within chinese line ........ so if you want them to be future ready for other nation tank don't put them in those country that isn't in the same line country as your grainding tank.

After patch rolling out they are going to wipe all unclaim female crew from your gift box, I'm pretty certain the news is true because it came from reputable WoT gaming channel. So to be safe claim first, if not you will be submitting ticket to auto bots hopping to get them reply by wot later.
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QUOTE(mowlous @ Dec 8 2017, 02:51 PM)
the female crew put in premium is the best if you have not decide which tank they are going, but remember it must be the premium tank that support that nation you wanted to play, if you put them in chinese premium they can only relocate within chinese line ........ so if you want them to be future ready for other nation tank don't put them in those country that isn't in the same line country as your grainding tank.

After patch rolling out they are going to wipe all unclaim female crew from your gift box, I'm pretty certain the news is true because it came from reputable WoT gaming channel. So to be safe claim first, if not you will be submitting ticket to auto bots hopping to get them reply by wot later.
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JUst read WOT asia forum, some reliable source said that Defender wont be on sales in near future, including Advent Calendar/Dec sales...

Finally can rest my heart and fully focus to grind for FV4005...

About the female crew assignment, any good suggestion on some other nations' tank?

to me female crew is a great premium starter crew with free BIA + Sixth sense as commander.

My current idea:

-3 female crews for Sweedish TD (maybe 1 for STRV first?)
- 1 female driver for Alpine Tiger, directly complete Offroad + Clutch as starting crew... HT not really need Sixth sense as badly as other type from beginning.

Among all types, my garage still lacking LTs to complete the missions.... any recommendation?

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QUOTE(air @ Dec 8 2017, 04:20 PM)
JUst read WOT asia forum, some reliable source said that Defender wont be on sales in near future, including Advent Calendar/Dec sales...

Finally can rest my heart and fully focus to grind for FV4005...

About the female crew assignment, any good suggestion on some other nations' tank?

to me female crew is a great premium starter crew with free BIA + Sixth sense as commander.

My current idea:

-3 female crews for Sweedish TD (maybe 1 for STRV first?)
- 1 female driver for Alpine Tiger, directly complete Offroad + Clutch as starting crew... HT not really need Sixth sense as badly as other type from beginning.

Among all types, my garage still lacking LTs to complete the missions.... any recommendation?
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Sweedish TD you will have to hit tier 6 before it starts to few good, tier 5 and below especially tier 5 (ikv 103) is one of the worst tank in many situation. It plays nothing like tier 6 and above, troll gun and dreadful to just try to graind. Save up to skip that garbage, then tier 6 would be much more enjoyable. I'm not sure that you would want to buy that tier 8 premium sweedish tank or not, cause if you do the tier 8,9,10 TD won't be as enjoyable anymore cause you already explored similar style and gameplay. But no doubt they are one of the most accurate snipers out there.

as for female on alpine I think maybe not, cause her BiA is given when collect, if you want a different perk you will have to reset, that reset will eat like 20% off and you have to train her back up to 100% ..... unless you are grainding the chinese tank. .... as for just making her to graind premium only it feel like a little waste, german and russian had the most tank that sometimes require extra, and maybe some from amarican and british too, I would suggest you put your gifted character into a nation that you would most likely spend time to graind out.

LT depends on what you enjoy most, the basic is to try luchs from german tier 4 and AMX elc from french tier 5 ..... both are pretty popular speed and small tank. The difference is a lot of the light tank are pretty much playing a scout role, but the french one introduce auto loader, pretty deadly if you are very good at hiding and pinching enemy.
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QUOTE(mowlous @ Dec 8 2017, 08:46 PM)
Sweedish TD you will have to hit tier 6 before it starts to few good, tier 5 and below especially tier 5 (ikv 103) is one of the worst tank in many situation. It plays nothing like tier 6 and above, troll gun and dreadful to just try to graind. Save up to skip that garbage, then tier 6 would be much more enjoyable. I'm not sure that you would want to buy that tier 8 premium sweedish tank or not, cause if you do the tier 8,9,10 TD won't be as enjoyable anymore cause you already explored similar style and gameplay. But no doubt they are one of the most accurate snipers out there.

as for female on alpine I think maybe not, cause her BiA is given when collect, if you want a different perk you will have to reset, that reset will eat like 20% off and you have to train her back up to 100% ..... unless you are grainding the chinese tank. .... as for just making her to graind premium only it feel like a little waste, german and russian had the most tank that sometimes require extra, and maybe some from amarican and british too, I would suggest you put your gifted character into a nation that you would most likely spend time to graind out.

LT depends on what you enjoy most, the basic is to try luchs from german tier 4 and AMX elc from french tier 5 ..... both are pretty popular speed and small tank. The difference is a lot of the light tank are pretty much playing a scout role, but the french one introduce auto loader, pretty deadly if you are very good at hiding and pinching enemy.
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Sweedish TD:
1. previously I thought of buying STRV-S1 when it was RM130++ but then its armor only can bounce 90mm calibre and below, I might as well as using an UDES with the same gun ? 30mm is very different from 40mm armor when it comes to overmatch...

2. Will definitely skip until UDES in order to play the Siege mode TD, can use that RM130++ for premium account for grinding instead of buying STRV-S1

3. STRV-103B is 1 of my tier X goal definitely, after FV4005

About Alpine tiger:

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China version I checked online seems having X2 crew XP... will test further...

only 50% more crew XP as usual... I wonder how they able to estimate 100% bonus silvers from alpine tiger...

About Female crew:

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If such mission reward unclaimed, will it disappear when new patch updated? I already used my free gifted female crew on CHallenger.

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About Female crew:

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If such mission reward unclaimed, will it disappear when new patch updated? I already used my free gifted female crew on CHallenger.
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Female crew from mission can take your own sweet time, they won't disappear ...... the only one that will disappear is the one on your gift box that every time you log in they congradulate you that one.
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QUOTE(mowlous @ Dec 8 2017, 10:42 PM)
Female crew from mission can take your own sweet time, they won't disappear ...... the only one that will disappear is the one on your gift box that every time you log in they congradulate you that one.
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Somehow I cleared the HT-15 with Alpine tiger... how do i reach 4000hp damage caused/received/blocked?

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now I have 3 female crews ready... putting them into UDES to grind tier X IKEA TD seems good?
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Somehow I cleared the HT-15 with Alpine tiger... how do i reach 4000hp damage caused/received/blocked?

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now I have 3 female crews ready... putting them into UDES to grind tier X IKEA TD seems good?
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Your total already 3007 in combination of those, you must have took some dmg amount to 1k or above ...... so total past 4k which is why you got the mission done, but you didn't do enough to get the 2nd condition done though.

yea udes is a good choice ..... that line is one of a kind because you can switch in two mode, fast and accurate.

Also start pushing to unlock and save lots of credit because big event coming up and all tank gets % credit discount. Save any special consumption timer until event start and spam use them, they will help boost you to push even faster during event.
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Been while since last time update here:

1. So far Advent Calendar Day-19, haven spend a single penny on tank
2. Unlocked & bought Bishop on 50% discount.
3. Currently holding 360K XP & waiting for 1:45 conversion rate offer.
4. Grinding Challenger/Alpine Tiger/SK-G

Anyone here can give some suggestion, which line should I choose for my first tier X tank?

UDES 03 => STRV-103B line (I have 3 female crews ready, can start with BIA + camo + SS instantly)

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Charioteer => FV4005 line (turreted high velocity APCR sniper transitioned into medium-close range peekaboo, the crew are BIA & camo ready)

Both line boasting high PEN gun and yet play very differently.
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Been while since last time update here:

1. So far Advent Calendar Day-19, haven spend a single penny on tank
2. Unlocked & bought Bishop on 50% discount.
3. Currently holding 360K XP & waiting for 1:45 conversion rate offer.
4. Grinding Challenger/Alpine Tiger/SK-G

Anyone here can give some suggestion, which line should I choose for my first tier X tank?

UDES 03 => STRV-103B line (I have 3 female crews ready, can start with BIA + camo + SS instantly)

VS

Charioteer => FV4005 line (turreted high velocity APCR sniper transitioned into medium-close range peekaboo, the crew are BIA & camo ready)

Both line boasting high PEN gun and yet play very differently.
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Go for ikea tank first. Much suitable to participate during rank battle events. Fv4005 II is more for casual tank play and wasn't really effective for serious battle.
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QUOTE(air @ Dec 20 2017, 01:36 PM)
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Been while since last time update here:

1. So far Advent Calendar Day-19, haven spend a single penny on tank
2. Unlocked & bought Bishop on 50% discount.
3. Currently holding 360K XP & waiting for 1:45 conversion rate offer.
4. Grinding Challenger/Alpine Tiger/SK-G

Anyone here can give some suggestion, which line should I choose for my first tier X tank?

UDES 03 => STRV-103B line (I have 3 female crews ready, can start with BIA + camo + SS instantly)

VS

Charioteer => FV4005 line (turreted high velocity APCR sniper transitioned into medium-close range peekaboo, the crew are BIA & camo ready)

Both line boasting high PEN gun and yet play very differently.
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Should have wait for chrismas event, if you level your chrismas tree to lvl5 you could get tier 5 for free. In terms of 1st t10 choice ..... udes series ....... no doubt due to the accuracy.

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