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rihuhs
post Mar 28 2018, 06:56 AM

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QUOTE(stereokumonomu @ Mar 27 2018, 11:19 PM)
Hoping for it to be a gaming pc, prefer boxy look and mobo to be lay flat.

Any suggestions?
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those that came across my mind were the Fractal Design Node 202 and Silverstone Raven RVZ02 or ML-08

for better storage option I'd recommend RVZ02 or ML08, since Node 202 (the one I'm using now) only have compartment for 2x 2.5" drives only sweat.gif
rihuhs
post Mar 28 2018, 07:01 AM

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QUOTE(kazairol @ Mar 25 2018, 07:13 PM)
Yup, thats one of the reason I choose ML-08 over Node 202.
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even in current condition of me having a mini sized GPU there (an EVGA GTX1060 3GB) still some mod needed in order to get a 3.5" drive in there

but having said that, the bundled PSU (Fractal Design own brand one) only have 2x SATA power lol

so my future upgrade path would be upgrading to a mobo that has a M.2 slot (for boot drive), keeping my 1TB 7200rpm drive strictly for game/Steam library and add in another 2TB 5400rpm 2.5" drive for mass storage (photos, videos, music etc)
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post Mar 29 2018, 02:33 PM

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yo! nice makeover man!
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post Apr 1 2018, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(rihuhs @ Mar 28 2018, 07:01 AM)
even in current condition of me having a mini sized GPU there (an EVGA GTX1060 3GB) still some mod needed in order to get a 3.5" drive in there

but having said that, the bundled PSU (Fractal Design own brand one) only have 2x SATA power lol

so my future upgrade path would be upgrading to a mobo that has a M.2 slot (for boot drive), keeping my 1TB 7200rpm drive strictly for game/Steam library and add in another 2TB 5400rpm 2.5" drive for mass storage (photos, videos, music etc)
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I might consider this build for my next upgrade/build brows.gif


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post Apr 2 2018, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(Clem1982 @ Jan 15 2015, 08:58 AM)
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Mod already say needs renewing wink.gif so we'll continue here  rclxms.gif

Link to V3 -> https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/974166

Wanna make it nicer this time with a list of all the brand and model of SFF chassis and their users as well so do PM me to add to the first post wink.gif we'll do it alphabetically I suppose tongue.gif

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what a sexy looking case this is.. ohmy.gif
rihuhs
post Apr 3 2018, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(kazairol @ Apr 1 2018, 08:47 PM)
I might consider this build for my next upgrade/build brows.gif


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no discrete graphics and PSU placement not to my liking sweat.gif
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post May 6 2018, 05:31 PM

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Quick review in progress for Zs-A4 casing that I bought off Taobao:

Previous case: Ncase M1

Price: around rm500++ including shipping straight from Taobao (maybe cheaper if use agents)

Links: https://world.taobao.com/item/545250722223.htm

Parts:

CPU: i7 6700K
CPU cooler: Noctua NH9li
MB: ITX z170i Asus Pro Gaming
RAM: 32 GB
PSU: Corsair SFX 600W
HDD: 3x 2.5 HDD (4TB)
GPU: Gigabyte G1 1080

Pros:
1) Cheaper alternatives to Dan A4
2) Good construction
3) Light
4) Can use most large desktop components
5) The seller can actually customize the panel openings if you want

Cons:
1) No manual at all, I have to figured out how to build based on other reviews
(From certain review it seems you can get the manual from the seller but since I used google translate to buy, its going to be hard to communicate)
2) The date shipped out is longer than promised, around 3 weeks and I almost cancelled the order
3) Limited number of good cpu cooler (I delided my cpu too)
4) May need some mod for psu cable

Will update with more pics and temp data once I got the custom sleeve cable, otherwise temp for 1.3v on 4.5gh is around 40 to 45 on idle and 60 to 65 on load. Gpu is around 30 on idle and 75 on synthetic benchmark, gaming wise max around 60-70

Pics (with comparison to PS4 and Ncase M1, sorry for the poor pic ratio hahah)
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post May 6 2018, 09:22 PM

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nice, the Zs-A4 is only sfx PSU also? ya the pic too tiny to see clearly. i still think M1 is the best sff case but the price is high.

do you prefer M1 or Zs-A4 after tried both?

inwin a1 not sure about the airflow, and it has built in 600W PSU.
https://www.in-win.com/en/gaming-chassis/a1




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post May 7 2018, 02:32 AM

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QUOTE(svfn @ May 6 2018, 09:22 PM)
nice, the Zs-A4 is only sfx PSU also? ya the pic too tiny to see clearly. i still think M1 is the best sff case but the price is high.

do you prefer M1 or Zs-A4 after tried both?

inwin a1 not sure about the airflow, and it has built in 600W PSU.
https://www.in-win.com/en/gaming-chassis/a1
If you are new to sff, M1 is a good place to start due to more versatile in term of parts (i used aio) but for transportation, you will need to put in travel bag

If you want challenge or need to transport the desktop in bagpack like me, zs a4 is the one i prefer

And ncase m1 may have some problem if the gpu is too wide, something zs a4 have no issues with imho
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post May 7 2018, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(RyuKageX @ May 6 2018, 06:31 PM)
Quick review in progress for Zs-A4 casing that I bought off Taobao:

Previous case: Ncase M1

Price: around rm500++ including shipping straight from Taobao (maybe cheaper if use agents)

Links: https://world.taobao.com/item/545250722223.htm

Parts:

CPU: i7 6700K
CPU cooler: Noctua NH9li
MB: ITX z170i Asus Pro Gaming
RAM: 32 GB
PSU: Corsair SFX 600W
HDD: 3x 2.5 HDD (4TB)
GPU: Gigabyte G1 1080

Pros:
1) Cheaper alternatives to Dan A4
2) Good construction
3) Light
4) Can use most large desktop components
5) The seller can actually customize the panel openings if you want

Cons:
1) No manual at all, I have to figured out how to build based on other reviews
(From certain review it seems you can get the manual from the seller but since I used google translate to buy, its going to be hard to communicate)
2) The date shipped out is longer than promised, around 3 weeks and I almost cancelled the order
3) Limited number of good cpu cooler (I delided my cpu too)
4) May need some mod for psu cable

Will update with more pics and temp data once I got the custom sleeve cable, otherwise temp for 1.3v on 4.5gh is around 40 to 45 on idle and 60 to 65 on load. Gpu is around 30 on idle and 75 on synthetic benchmark, gaming wise max around 60-70

Pics (with comparison to PS4 and Ncase M1, sorry for the poor pic ratio hahah)
user posted image user posted image user posted image user posted image user posted image <- Ncase M1
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should i be afraid of esd if i put my pc inside bagpack?

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post May 20 2018, 10:47 AM

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Guys, are cheap mini itx case such as winser m5 that I saw selling in Malaysia is a no go?

Recently I’m helping my friend to build her mini itx sff pc, but due to limited budget in mind, and she only want slim standing case, not those cube like CM Elite or Sharkoon QB I’m thinking if I could cheap out the casing.

I saw a mini itx case made by a China company called Winser. They priced their case less than RM200. Compare to those brand like SilverStone and Fractal Design, it is a huge different in price. However, I would like to get some opinions from you guys if I should cheap out on the case or not.

Any suggest is highly welcome smile.gif

Cheers wink.gif

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rihuhs
post May 21 2018, 07:07 AM

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QUOTE(michealelsie @ May 20 2018, 10:47 AM)
Guys, are cheap mini itx case such as winser m5 that I saw selling in Malaysia is a no go?

Recently I’m helping my friend to build her mini itx sff pc, but due to limited budget in mind, and she only want slim standing case, not those cube like CM Elite or Sharkoon QB I’m thinking if I could cheap out the casing.

I saw a mini itx case made by a China company called Winser. They priced their case less than RM200. Compare to those brand like SilverStone and Fractal Design, it is a huge different in price. However, I would like to get some opinions from you guys if I should cheap out on the case or not.

Any suggest is highly welcome smile.gif

Cheers wink.gif
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the Winser M5 case looks nice, although there's a limitation for the supported graphics card

what's the purpose of the build?
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post May 21 2018, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(rihuhs @ May 21 2018, 07:07 AM)
the Winser M5 case looks nice, although there's a limitation for the supported graphics card

what's the purpose of the build?
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The build will not having any dedicated GC due to office paperwork use only

Basically it is just a G4560 build and uses integrated graphic.

I havent personally look on the real item of the Winser M5 case, I also wonder if the included generic PSU enough support for my build.

Intel G4560
1x DDR4 8GB ram 1 stick (or make it dual channel 2x4GB)
1x 1TB HDD
1x SSD
1x DVD writer
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post May 22 2018, 06:58 AM

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QUOTE(michealelsie @ May 21 2018, 10:06 AM)
The build will not having any dedicated GC due to office paperwork use only

Basically it is just a G4560 build and uses integrated graphic.

I havent personally look on the real item of the Winser M5 case, I also wonder if the included generic PSU enough support for my build.

Intel G4560
1x DDR4 8GB ram 1 stick (or make it dual channel 2x4GB)
1x 1TB HDD
1x SSD
1x DVD writer
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I see. but the case looks like an OEM version of those prebuilt mini PCs from Dell or Acer biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

according to the PSU calculator site, the build should require somewhere around 230W laugh.gif

https://outervision.com/b/dLa6nV
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post May 22 2018, 07:24 AM

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QUOTE(rihuhs @ May 22 2018, 06:58 AM)
I see. but the case looks like an OEM version of those prebuilt mini PCs from Dell or Acer biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

according to the PSU calculator site, the build should require somewhere around 230W laugh.gif

https://outervision.com/b/dLa6nV
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Yeah, but the case come with a psu 250W. Problem is this kind of psu not so power efficient, I afraid that the top power not achieve 230W...

Or I’m wrong? Advice needed
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post May 25 2018, 05:40 AM

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Anyone can recommend me a micro-atx casing that can fit into a luggage type bag? Or any bag? Easier for me to bring it back home during university breaks, I'm taking a look at the SG09 or SG10 from Silverstone looks great but can't find any seller that sells SG10.

Edit : Also my GPU is RX 470 Red Devil from Powercolor. Will probably use this card for another 2-3 years before upgrading.

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post Jul 18 2018, 09:50 PM

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guys, take a look at this 2 cases, looks nice to me

1) nzxt h200i
2) geeek a30

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