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Neslo[#^PenG^#]
post Oct 3 2006, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(altie @ Oct 3 2006, 12:21 AM)
You can't set µTorrent to accept only local peers. You can do that in Azureus though. Someone posted up instructions about that already. But I think you're getting the concept wrong.

Not every M'sian can set to only accept local peers, because then, where would the source files be coming from? Most BT stuff comes from overseas, even WoW updates. Someone's got to get it from outside before he can seed it inside M'sia.

Hope that clears up the confusion. Bottom line is that you can set to accept connections from local peers only, but you're only hurting the community.
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ok, thxx for clearing that up... icon_rolleyes.gif

well, wat bout those maximum peer connection option on utorrent? wat does that do and will it help with the speed?

there is also add peer option on utorrent, can clear up wat that do?
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post Oct 3 2006, 01:16 AM

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Secure tunnel's signup confirmation seems to be down. Ive been trying for hours to register but it bringts me to their 404 page all the time....*sigh*
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post Oct 3 2006, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(Neslo[#^PenG^#)
,Oct 3 2006, 12:35 AM]ok, thxx for clearing that up... icon_rolleyes.gif

well, wat bout those maximum peer connection option on utorrent? wat does that do and will it help with the speed?

there is also add peer option on utorrent, can clear up wat that do?
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No probs.

Max peer connection is when you want to stipulate how many simultaneous connections you want µTorrent to make. The default is 80. You could set it anywhere from 40-100, in my opinion. Any higher or lower would affect your speed in a bad way. Higher than 100 will cause overload in your client, HDD, PC, router, bandwidth. Any lower than 40 and you're not utilising enough of your bandwidth to go fast.

There is another option in the Advanced section of the client, but I recommend you don't go there. You can ask if you're interested, otherwise I won't confuse you.

The Add Peer option is for, (I can only speculate since I've never tried using it) when you have a friend who is uploading something only for you. He calls you up and says "Hey mate my IP is 60.40.133.55 and I'm port 18532" So you type in 60.40.133.55:18532 in the box that pops up when you click "Add Peer..." in the Peer list.

Anyone is welcome to correct me if they know better. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Oct 3 2006, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Oct 3 2006, 01:16 AM)
Secure tunnel's signup confirmation seems to be down. Ive been trying for hours to register but it bringts me to their 404 page all the time....*sigh*
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u try to register with cc or paypal?
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post Oct 3 2006, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(altie @ Oct 3 2006, 01:22 AM)
No probs.

Max peer connection is when you want to stipulate how many simultaneous connections you want µTorrent to make. The default is 80. You could set it anywhere from 40-100, in my opinion. Any higher or lower would affect your speed in a bad way. Higher than 100 will cause overload in your client, HDD, PC, router, bandwidth. Any lower than 40 and you're not utilising enough of your bandwidth to go fast.

There is another option in the Advanced section of the client, but I recommend you don't go there. You can ask if you're interested, otherwise I won't confuse you.

The Add Peer option is for, (I can only speculate since I've never tried using it) when you have a friend who is uploading something only for you. He calls you up and says "Hey mate my IP is 60.40.133.55 and I'm port 18532" So you type in 60.40.133.55:18532 in the box that pops up when you click "Add Peer..." in the Peer list.

Anyone is welcome to correct me if they know better.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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cool explanation, thxx alot thumbup.gif

is that mean if there is some popular files that alot of us lowyat members wants to download, maybe we can make a thread/post to gather all those interested members IP, then we add each other, and we will have good download speed for that file?

is that an feasible idea to help us with our current prob?


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post Oct 3 2006, 01:58 AM

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Ehm, there isn't a specific rule covering what you're suggesting, but I highly suggest you don't do it here. I don't want people starting threads like "Sharing latest episode of CSI!!!111!! Give me your IPs" and then people get in trouble because of intellectual property rights and not to mention all those open IPs and ports running around the forum. Definitely not good for HomeStarRunn0r.

Keep it between people you trust. Like your GF or best friend. I wouldn't share an open IP and port like that on a forum as big as this.

But thanks for the suggestion anyway! thumbup.gif

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post Oct 3 2006, 04:16 AM

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modify torrent clients to give higher priority to local, encourage everyone to use it.
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post Oct 3 2006, 08:35 AM

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I think I have wasted 8 bucks. doh.gif

Secure Tunnel is quite honestly, crap. Their server went down overnight and their client frequently hardcrashes my PC. Feedback on their forums isn't too favourable either. sweat.gif
Oh well, you learn.

My friend recommended Relakks though.
https://www.relakks.com/?cid=gb
He used it before and it uses a true VP, unlike Secure Tunnel.
Cheaper too.
I think I'll try that next month. Not too keen on spending another 8 bucks. Will endure ST in the meantime.
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post Oct 3 2006, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(Zephro @ Oct 3 2006, 09:35 AM)
I think I have wasted 8 bucks. doh.gif

Secure Tunnel is quite honestly, crap. Their server went down overnight and their client frequently hardcrashes my PC. Feedback on their forums isn't too favourable either. sweat.gif
Oh well, you learn.

My friend recommended Relakks though.
https://www.relakks.com/?cid=gb
He used it before and it uses a true VP, unlike Secure Tunnel.
Cheaper too.
I think I'll try that next month. Not too keen on spending another 8 bucks. Will endure ST in the meantime.
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Yeah ST is quite a b**** to use especially when trying to map a port. Spend the whole night just to figuring how to set it up with Azureus. No success for me. For now uTorrent works with ST (and im not sure how i did it, lol).

Is there any bandwidth restrictions using relakks. Will endure ST for now.

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post Oct 3 2006, 09:10 AM

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I have thought of a way to bypass the shaping but haven't tested it. Wait for my news.
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post Oct 3 2006, 09:19 AM

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No BW limit for Relakks.
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QUOTE(altie @ Oct 3 2006, 12:21 AM)
You can't set µTorrent to accept only local peers. You can do that in Azureus though. Someone posted up instructions about that already. But I think you're getting the concept wrong.

Not every M'sian can set to only accept local peers, because then, where would the source files be coming from? Most BT stuff comes from overseas, even WoW updates. Someone's got to get it from outside before he can seed it inside M'sia.

Hope that clears up the confusion. Bottom line is that you can set to accept connections from local peers only, but you're only hurting the community.
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That is not true. The method which I posted previously simply tells Azureus that these ranges are 'near' me. If a connection to any of them has been established, preserve it as much as possible. The moment I activated that, I would always have at least 1 Malaysian peer connected to me in all my torrents with a priority given to those with higher % because that is the main purpose of this plugin.


QUOTE(Neslo[#^PenG^#] @ Oct 3 2006, 01:38 AM)
cool explanation, thxx alot thumbup.gif

is that mean if there is some popular files that alot of us lowyat members wants to download, maybe we can make a thread/post to gather all those interested members IP, then we add each other, and we will have good download speed for that file?

is that an feasible idea to help us with our current prob?
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Dude, I had this in mind but mine was somewhat different. My idea was establishing multiple VPN tunnels to others out there, add the range of Malaysian IP ranges inside the Azureus > LAN Peer Finder and hopefully Azureus will look at these VPN connections as LAN ones. I do not know if this is posible or not as I have not tried it but would love to. All my friends have put their trust in BitComet soo....

The idea above I believe could be implemented by the tracking server I believe. Something like
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if Malaysian IP
  connnect to more Malaysian IPs
  set max incoming international connection to 3

Well just an idea... tho for the above to work, it would require us to disable the 'decentralize' option in our clients.

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post Oct 3 2006, 09:27 AM

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I got this problem...
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Account Expiration: Recurring billing <-----

Does anyone got same problem????
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post Oct 3 2006, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(virtual @ Oct 3 2006, 09:10 AM)
I have thought of a way to bypass the shaping but haven't tested it. Wait for my news.
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Sure do. rclxms.gif

Gambatte. thumbup.gif

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post Oct 3 2006, 09:42 AM


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QUOTE(Nucleon @ Oct 3 2006, 09:27 AM)
I got this problem...
Member Since: October 2, 2006

Reference number: zzzzzzzzzzzzz

Account type: Gold

Account Expiration: Recurring billing <-----

Does anyone got same problem????
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Looks like you have sucessfully signed up.
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post Oct 3 2006, 10:02 AM

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i did but at the same time now the server refuse my connections... yesterday it was ok but today it seems that i cant log in

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post Oct 3 2006, 10:20 AM

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Maybe you are trying to sign into the wrong tunnel!
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post Oct 3 2006, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(avex|mode @ Oct 3 2006, 09:06 AM)
Yeah ST is quite a b**** to use especially when trying to map a port. Spend the whole night just to figuring how to set it up with Azureus. No success for me. For now uTorrent works with ST (and im not sure how i did it, lol).

Is there any bandwidth restrictions using relakks. Will endure ST for now.
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I feel your frustration. It took me a while to iron out alll the teething problems using it with Azureus on a private tracker but got there in the end. If you want, let me know your exact issues and I will walk through the process with you to set it up.
Also I notice a few people complaining about disconnections - ST can be configured so that it automatically reconnects when this happens. I have had no crashes yet but then I am running windows 2000 not XP

This post has been edited by ocdetective: Oct 3 2006, 10:44 AM
Nucleon
post Oct 3 2006, 10:44 AM

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oh hmm not likely.... i am sure i am on the right one... sigh,,,
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Easily done as it defaults to tunnel east not webtunnel (tunnel east is for platinum users only)

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