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 V17 Property Bubble (Is there a bubble at all ?), Property Inflated or Inflation ?

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post Jan 6 2015, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Jan 6 2015, 03:14 PM)
Taman Desa also ard 10km to KLCC...... why not u compare and ask why the difference so great???.....  whistling.gif  whistling.gif

Whereas Desa Parkcity is double the distant...... why not compare and ask the differece so great too??.....  whistling.gif  whistling.gif

Distant to KLCC shld fully determine the price of prop??..... Wake up la......  doh.gif  doh.gif
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post Jan 6 2015, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 6 2015, 04:28 PM)
KL is cheaper than city sarawak and sabah liao. even jakarta props are higher expensive than KL landed liao. dun ask me why, I also want to know. you can search inside olx website liao to benchmark. so KL is affordable and cheaper now
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I from sabah. Dont bullshxx the house price is more expensive than kl. If u compare the more expensive n prime one with bukit tak untung or rural area or low cost apartment...then u r right lah
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post Jan 6 2015, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 6 2015, 04:30 PM)
i create the demand but why KL prop still cheap now liao?
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People crying kl house price too high. U pula crying kl house price cheap.....u super uuu ah?
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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Jan 6 2015, 03:02 PM)
Is there en-bloc law for redevelopment in Malai??......  doh.gif  doh.gif
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QUOTE(BuyAmaya @ Jan 6 2015, 03:06 PM)
I malas nak layan dah this crazy guy.

I thnik he is talking about his magical world of ice cream dreamland.
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The uuu herd always look at one (often the wrong) side of story only to syok sendiri.

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post Jan 6 2015, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Jan 6 2015, 04:33 PM)
People crying kl house price too high. U pula crying kl house price cheap.....u super uuu ah?
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I am crying because prop in sarawak is more expensive than KL. then you guess where I come from.

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 6 2015, 04:35 PM)
I am crying because prop in sarawak is more expensive than KL. then you guess where I come from.
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Then tell me how many n where is expensive? How about kapit? Samarahan? Mukah?

Got any housing projects more expensive than desa park city? Bangsar landed?
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 6 2015, 04:35 PM)
I am crying because prop in sarawak is more expensive than KL. then you guess where I come from.
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Any condo in kuching that costing 1 million a unit?
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post Jan 6 2015, 04:43 PM

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From bearbear's posting, tone and reaction for the past 2 days, I think bearbear already start to realise the market price face extreme difficulties to come down. And time is running out for him

I am sure he has been monitoring a few projects of his choice for past 1+ year, and all he can see is the price didn't come down, but going up some more.

And after realising clean Ccris is useless, but EA form, Tax return and cold hard cash are more important to apply for bank loan, he finally realise his direction is wrong. He sure feel regretted not spending time to work on the right thing, but instead argued with the UUU of LYN whose good advice he ignored

He must be very disappointed, demoralised and exhausted finding a X-10% house. Sure feel very tired fighting a stubborn market sweat.gif

If bearbear needs any genuine advice, please ask here. I am sure many of the UUU will offer their good advice to you, despite your constant flashing and irrespectful comments
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jan 6 2015, 04:34 PM)
The uuu herd always look at one (often the wrong) side of story only to syok sendiri.
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hahaha the "uuu herd" has been right for the past 5-6 years. Whereas the "ddd herd" has been wrong, and still continue to be wrong until 2015.

Because of the "ddd herd" mentality who follow the ddd leaders blindly, the ddd herd is still syok sendiri property crash is coming tongue.gif

Look at 1 of the ddd herd leader's prediction in 2012. Can you see yourself being the same in 2015 ? thumbup.gif




QUOTE(agentdiary @ Aug 31 2012, 06:28 PM)
Please stop reading if you're in property price will not go down camp. Take own responsibility if you still persist to go on. Don't blame the author for making your day bad. 

Fact is the real estate market has slowed and the signs of further slowing is growing every single day.

Forget about U.S and E.U, everyone is tired about the gloom and doom there.

Better shape countries like Taiwan (don't argue, is a sovereign country and maintaining its own military), China, Korea and Australia face difficulty to maintain economic growth. For example, Australia coal, iron ore and copper export has slumped. For the past 6 months, Australia total home sale has dropped and recorded the widest drop in July 2012. Price in some second tie markets for high end sector (>AUD1m) has dropped significantly as much as -40% or more.

China fresh grad unemployment rate reached double digit this year (check Al-Jazerra latest documentary on China graduate). ZhuShanJiao 珠三角, Guang Dong Province (the locomotive of manufacturing hub in southern China), area like Dong Guan registered NEGATIVE -11 GDP contraction due to large numbers factories closure.

Though China official GDP is 7.1% but the reliability is quite questionable. China financial market is not reflective the entire picture because shadow banking plays a large part for the medium/small enterprises. Last year reports of massive shadow banks run begin to surface from WenZhou, ZheJiang Province which has alerted Wen to intervene. Australia, Korea & Taiwan export to China begin to contract in 2012 and China electricity production did not grow from 2Q, 2012. It tells us the situation there is not good at all. 

Those in Malaysia who believe the property price can be sustained and grow (maybe slower) despite the economy gloom and doom around the world is living in fantasy.

Property price can only be sustained if you and me, brother/sister, your friends and enemies, good or bad neighbor, untie and uncle.... ALL, is able to continue paying the installment and rent on time to bank/landlord regardless of how bad the economy will become. The market really don't need many people failing to do their commitment for destruction the working of the financial chain.

Fictitious case. Just for illustration. A 3 years old condo with 400 dwellings. All in one size 1000sf, bought all in one price RM350k (now market price is RM500k) and 80% of them bough with 90% bank loan. When recession hit, 2% of them losing job and 3% of them have pay cut. So, 5% of them have problem to repay installment. 1% of them have saving while 1% of them, family can help out. Then left the 3% under water and foreclosure is inevitable. 3% is equal to 12 units of houses, is now on lelong. Let's say the lelong price is RM500k and under such economic downturn and large number of lelong is available, finding taker posses its difficulty. So, auction price has to be reduced, say, -10 to RM450k. If a different owner, financially better shape, want to sell his property now in an open market, he is not likely to find buyer at RM500k. Like it or not, RM450k is the realistic price (if there is taker of the auction price at RM450k. If not, further reduction is expected). When only half of the auction houses are able to sell, the remaining 6 will be further reduced. What if after further reduction, still no taker? Well, banker has to shoulder the liability without cash flow. When the vicious circle spread, it will force the market to raise interests rate as bankers now is facing reduction of cash flow. When interests rate adjusted upward, we can imagine the the ugly picture followed  

To believe the property price can be sustained or rise is equal to believe all the parties in the chain can do their part without failing. All of us know very well, it's not possible.

When the export drop which is happening now, the affected companies is going to bite the bullet and under such circumstances, the problem of laying off surplus labors and suppliers is inevitable in order to survive. Chain effect: our neighbor working in those companies and friend who is supplying the material to the companies and our government who collects tax from those companies. People spend less and ..... 

It is a tough time ahead, friends.

Obama is trying hard to reelect in Nov 2012 and he, as well as Mitt Romney will try their best to win voters than curing the economy (U.S has just reached 16 trillion deficit 2 days ago but who is talking it now? Still remember all the huhu-haha in Aug 2011 when deficit hit 15 trillion mark?). Angela Merkel will face the same as Germany election going to take place by latest of next year. China, just settled the recent largest political scandal involving the influential Bo Xilai, make no difference. China main focus now is the 18th National Congress of Commuinist China soon to be held. Who will take charge after Hu/Wen will be decided. Thus, it can be speculated that those politicians are buying time time for the moment.
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post Jan 6 2015, 05:39 PM

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post Jan 6 2015, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 6 2015, 04:25 PM)
I am not rich liao and I am not doctor. We agree not to have maid. why? we love our privacy
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Well i am just saying it is the guy to find the house n not the girl. If u dont want to have a maid fine, for babysitter can always go for daycare i know some of my friends dont trust maids.
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jan 6 2015, 04:34 PM)
The uuu herd always look at one (often the wrong) side of story only to syok sendiri.
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u are the one who bring out major city redevelopment issue...... so who is looking at the wrong side of the story??...... No wonder u hav syok senditri for so long....... doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 6 2015, 04:28 PM)
KL is cheaper than city sarawak and sabah liao. even jakarta props are higher expensive than KL landed liao. dun ask me why, I also want to know. you can search inside olx website liao to benchmark. so KL is affordable and cheaper now
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Ok ok if what u say is right then there is no chance for kl ptoperty to go down down down if properties in sarawak already much more up up up.
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 6 2015, 04:30 PM)
i create the demand but why KL prop still cheap now liao?
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If kl prop is cheap then buy....no need to argue anymore.
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jan 6 2015, 04:34 PM)
The uuu herd always look at one (often the wrong) side of story only to syok sendiri.
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There goes shit coming out of your cock mouth again.
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QUOTE(Jliew168 @ Jan 6 2015, 05:39 PM)
Not sure about the withdrawal details. Is that possible the ease of epf withdrawal (monthly balance of account 2) assist the loan amount application to be higher?
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post Jan 6 2015, 06:00 PM

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KNN anyone tell me Sarawak property more expensive than KL, I ask them go road side TFK.. mad.gif

http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylistin...w-house-forsale

http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylistin...d-house-forsale

http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylistin...d-house-forsale

http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylistin...k-house-forsale

Find me this size & deal in KL City area .. whistling.gif

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post Jan 6 2015, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Jan 6 2015, 04:39 PM)
Any condo in kuching that costing 1 million a unit?
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Got Santubong Suites Penthouse & D Jewel (3000-4000 sf type).. tongue.gif

Compare to KLCC, Bangsar, MK & Desa Park City price & see whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Jliew168 @ Jan 6 2015, 05:39 PM)
government cannot tahan malaysian got too much of saving in epf, this move is encourage them to buy / invest in real estate.. more and more sign of under value property is playing catch up.. lol..
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QUOTE(kradun @ Jan 6 2015, 06:39 PM)
government cannot tahan malaysian got too much of saving in epf, this move is encourage them to buy / invest in real estate.. more and more sign of under value property is playing catch up.. lol..
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Like what Showtime747 says more & more policy will be introduced to stimulate the property market back to high gear again, SifuahBear should brace himself for another round of price hike
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