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drfeelgood
post Dec 27 2014, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Dec 27 2014, 12:59 PM)
No it's not that simple. Oil temp warming up time and coolant warming up time is different. If your oil starts to circulate through the cooler even at low temp the heat loss will be fast and it will takes longer time to get the heat up to optimum even you put the car in idle. Not to mention, on start/stop drive your oil will cool down too much.

Just to share, even you have warm up your water temp to optimum does not mean your oil temp is at optimum hence even with your coolant temp up it's not good to whack the car immediately.

none thermo is more suited to be used on racing but I would like to hear more opinion
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Of course, you are the technical guru. To fix an on off switch will be very expensive i believe. But for you could be worth the money as you look deep into all the technical details.

Ayam more layman... want something to cool down the oil temperature. Let it warm upfirst b4 drivinng would be my solution.
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post Dec 27 2014, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(wkwong91 @ Dec 27 2014, 01:47 PM)
Seem u so free kacau people then I kacau u lo.  whistling.gif
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let me kacau ur D90 brows.gif
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post Dec 27 2014, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(n3w @ Dec 27 2014, 01:23 PM)
You org KL kah? Got chance jumpe next round i naik. biggrin.gif
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TitanRev
post Dec 27 2014, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(drfeelgood @ Dec 27 2014, 02:19 PM)
Of course, you are the technical guru. To fix an on off switch will be very expensive i believe. But for you could be worth the money as you look deep into all the technical details.

Ayam  more layman... want something to  cool down the oil temperature. Let it warm upfirst  b4 drivinng would be my solution.
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The thermostat is self controlled and no need to have any external source of power to make it work. It's like your car's coolant thermostat. It is preset to open at a certain set temp 70, 80 or 93. The thermostat is built into the sandwich plate. It act as a bypass valve so when the temp is not reach it will circulate the oil in the engine and not going into the oil cooler.

Another more cheaper solution to control the cooling of the oil is to block off half of the oil cooler fin so that you limit the amount of cooling air to pass through the cooler.

I'm not the guru la, still learning and sharing knowledge with guys here. smile.gif I also prefer to DIY a lot to save on cost. Seldom let ppl fix or install. Fixing on/off switch is not that complicated. You just need a relay 4 prong and you can DIY that's all.

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post Dec 27 2014, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Dec 27 2014, 02:41 PM)
let me kacau ur D90  brows.gif
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Too OLD compared to ur one. yawn.gif

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post Dec 27 2014, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(n3w @ Dec 27 2014, 07:40 AM)
That's why bengang. Luckily he picked up the call didnt hear any berak sound. whistling.gif
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But that looks more like he was hoping you like the cake he made whistling.gif
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post Dec 27 2014, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Dec 27 2014, 03:04 PM)
The thermostat is self controlled and no need to have any external source of power to make it work. It's like your car's coolant thermostat. It is preset to open at a certain set temp 70, 80 or 93. The thermostat is built into the sandwich plate. It act as a bypass valve so when the temp is not reach it will circulate the oil in the engine and not going into the oil cooler.

Another more cheaper solution to control the cooling of the oil is to block off half of the oil cooler fin so that you limit the amount of cooling air to pass through the cooler.

I'm not the guru la, still learning and sharing knowledge with guys here.  smile.gif I also prefer to DIY a lot to save on cost. Seldom let ppl fix or install. Fixing on/off switch is not that complicated. You just need a relay 4 prong and you can DIY that's all.
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U own EBO in Japorn lastaim, you got oil pressure gauge inda kar mar. U can see even with low visco oil in the winter hor, the oil pressure doesn't get lost as long there's no leak. On the other hand, the oil temperature will still continue to rise as per no oil cooler module. With it, on a speeding environment you able to bring down the temperature nia. Otherwise, on idling there won't be much different, probably 1'C or 2'C nia laugh.gif There are believe that a huge oil cooler will made the oil circulation lose pressure nia, but never heard of adding a cooler made the oil too cold laugh.gif My opinion only lar. Welcome if anyone wanna challen, coz I don't even hold a ground here as I haven't get 1 cooler to my car other than last time when I was dealing with rotary engines nod.gif Basically with or without, I'm still start and drive gently from 30seconds to a minute, after got out from housing area straight away gone wild liao laugh.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Dec 27 2014, 03:00 PM)
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It looks normal until you highlight it. sleep.gif

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post Dec 27 2014, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(n3w @ Dec 27 2014, 04:40 PM)
It looks normal until you highlight it. sleep.gif
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So did you poison your gf with cars brows.gif

Or did she forbid you from meeting with us again after seeing our antics yesterday? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(n3w @ Dec 27 2014, 01:51 AM)
Late di, still typing this short review on the 3Max front & rear strut bars installed on my car this morning at Mahihi's place.  yawn.gif

Great item! I second dares review that my car moves more solid'ly' over bumps and corners. I took a day trip up to Shah Alam, Klang, head to Mid Valley and lastly Petaling Jaya for makan makan and jalan jalan, pretty much cover 400kms of different types of road. Bumps and corners - high and low speed pretty much absorbed nicely with my stock FLX suspension and 15 inch tyres. Even my passenger for the day complimented on how solid the car moves over the first few bumps outside his workshop.  brows.gif

I sort of regretted and wished I could have installed it sooner. 

Thanks for the good stuff! And to r3apers,dares,V12Kompressor who helped me & Mahihi with the installation, TQ too, you all are the funny buggers. 

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BTW you keep so many boxes of tissue in boot buat apa? brows.gif brows.gif

fap fap fap ah? brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

QUOTE(wkwong91 @ Dec 27 2014, 03:08 PM)
Too OLD compared to ur one.  yawn.gif
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entry level only. cry.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Dec 27 2014, 04:52 PM)
So did you poison your gf with cars  brows.gif

Or did she forbid you from meeting with us again after seeing our antics yesterday?  laugh.gif
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She also quite wild wan, shy shy to strangers biggrin.gif

Explained sikit to her lo, she did compliment on the more solid ride, wa everyday cakap cars with her.

Ok wan la, she also mix with friends who speak wild language.

She did mention that Mahihi macam tak cukup tido. yawn.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Dec 27 2014, 05:10 PM)
BTW you keep so many boxes of tissue in boot buat apa? brows.gif brows.gif

fap fap fap ah? brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
entry level only.  cry.gif
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Spare mah. Bugger you. whistling.gif

Suke keep more just in case. brows.gif
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post Dec 27 2014, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Dec 27 2014, 05:10 PM)
BTW you keep so many boxes of tissue in boot buat apa? brows.gif brows.gif

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Because.....read below whistling.gif

QUOTE(n3w @ Dec 27 2014, 05:11 PM)
She also quite wild wan
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post Dec 27 2014, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Dec 27 2014, 04:34 PM)
U own EBO in Japorn lastaim, you got oil pressure gauge inda kar mar. U can see even with low visco oil in the winter hor, the oil pressure doesn't get lost as long there's no leak. On the other hand, the oil temperature will still continue to rise as per no oil cooler module. With it, on a speeding environment you able to bring down the temperature nia. Otherwise, on idling there won't be much different, probably 1'C or 2'C nia laugh.gif There are believe that a huge oil cooler will made the oil circulation lose pressure nia, but never heard of adding a cooler made the oil too cold laugh.gif My opinion only lar. Welcome if anyone wanna challen, coz I don't even hold a ground here as I haven't get 1 cooler to my car other than last time when I was dealing with rotary engines nod.gif Basically with or without, I'm still start and drive gently from 30seconds to a minute, after got out from housing area straight away gone wild liao laugh.gif
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On winter time if only idling the oil temp is a bit higher than on summer. But it goes back to normal after a few boost. Mine was a HKS type s 15row. Thermo open at 70c +-3c. Fully open at 80c +-3c

I saw some higher Hp Evo in Japan. they run twin cooler in series but they have upgrade their oil pump. But putting oil cooler also need consider the size of the core. It's not the biggest is the best. Also I found that the size of the hose if too small will restrict the flow.
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post Dec 27 2014, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Dec 27 2014, 06:22 PM)
On winter time if only idling the oil temp is a bit higher than on summer. But it goes back to normal after a few boost. Mine was a HKS type s 15row. Thermo open at 70c +-3c. Fully open at 80c +-3c

I saw some higher Hp Evo in Japan. they run twin cooler in series but they have upgrade their oil pump. But putting oil cooler also need consider the size of the core. It's not the biggest is the best. Also I found that the size of the hose if too small will restrict the flow.
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Hence I was saying, find a single core minimum row just to be sure my oil didn't get overheated during high speed cruising. It certainly wouldn't affect the warm up schedule by much, but oil can only be boiled once(especially on track event) laugh.gif So, finding a thermostat is what you want, by all means notworthy.gif
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post Dec 27 2014, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Dec 27 2014, 06:39 PM)
Hence I was saying, find a single core minimum row just to be sure my oil didn't get overheated during high speed cruising. It certainly wouldn't affect the warm up schedule by much, but oil can only be boiled once(especially on track event) laugh.gif So, finding a thermostat is what you want, by all means notworthy.gif
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Ah...Ok now I get the whole picture...key is the core if using in Malaysia climate.
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Dec 27 2014, 06:53 PM)
Ah...Ok now I get the whole picture...key is the core if using in Malaysia climate.
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Nah! Best size for small engine. Mount it behind tayar, walauweh kipas cooler oso saved up. Car no run, no extra cooling. Car running, tayar kipas cooler kit sumoar gengcao whistling.gif Inspired by a 911 turbo lastaim when I dismantle 1 at magician's shop laugh.gif
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QUOTE(n3w @ Dec 27 2014, 05:11 PM)
She also quite wild wan, shy shy to strangers biggrin.gif

Explained sikit to her lo, she did compliment on the more solid ride, wa everyday cakap cars with her.

Ok wan la, she also mix with friends who speak wild language.

She did mention that Mahihi macam tak cukup tido. yawn.gif
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sorry,last minute went to beer session,4 oni came back,so yea,lol....
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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Dec 27 2014, 11:47 PM)
sorry,last minute went to beer session,4 oni came back,so yea,lol....
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Paham paham, no wonder so muka 10 sen.

At least you remembered I'm coming to fix those bars. biggrin.gif

Besides nanoenergiser? Apa lagi poison?

Do report on the results once you test habis those on your car. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(n3w @ Dec 28 2014, 12:44 AM)
Paham paham, no wonder so muka 10 sen.

At least you remembered I'm coming to fix those bars. biggrin.gif

Besides nanoenergiser? Apa lagi poison?

Do report on the results once you test habis those on your car. icon_rolleyes.gif
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before this RM 50 270km max...now 340km,samo havent fully run in,lol...

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