we should Spend on the RIGHT lens for your system...

but general advise is all about 'getting ready for FF body' perception... if you know well not going into FF body in future, then you dont need to grab FF lens.

for those interested with 1835 sigma lens, i used it for a few month with A57. 1 word....GODLY. no lens in the world today can beat it yet, in sharpness, in details, in built, in weight(very heavy nearly as heavy as 2470Zeiss), only issue, the HSM seem a little slow.

Gouki, Zstan, porkchop all tested the lens before.


mind you, its a Crop lens, not FE lens.

i used it for a few months paired with nex7 a few years back, it is seriously nice, the clarity pops better then SEL50 or SEL35. really fast AF... the only issue it gave me, very limited uses,... not wide enough, not tele enough.... hanging in the middle range, forcing me to swap lens too often

Sigma 18-35mm Lens ---> approved!

how about these Sigma lens for NEX 6? Sony prime lens for NEX is a little over my budget, unfortunately... Tips?

Sigma 30mm F2.8 DN Art for Sony NEX
Sigma 19mm F2.8 DN Art For Sony NEX

domokun, the only worries i have with 3rd party E mount is that the 3rd party lens wont able to have the OSPDAF.

but honestly, ANY MODERN lens designed/made from 2010 onwards are pretty SHARP for any 12mp system, i dont know any lens(post 2010) has bad reputation... speed wise, i still find sigma HSM or/and their standard motor are pretty slow.

Read and watched pretty decent reviews on these 2 lens and it's rather economical comparing to Sony prime lens that may cost me my arm, haha. Only downside, I think, for a noob like me is that these 2 lens don't come with the OSS like Sony. I'm still on my 16-50mm kit lens for NEX 6.

Worth buying for beginners to play with before zooming down to the advanced units?
SEL1855

This post has been edited by domo_kun: Feb 27 2015, 09:08 AM

Strobe flash(in softbox) vs continuous light (4 bulbs in a softbox)..what is the cons and pro..i heard the bulb holder for continuous light tend to burn easier and lighting power not as high as strobe kit..but for normal indoor portrait and baby shooting.. Which one is more suitable..need some opinion here..

SEL 1855 is a Kitlens catagory, used as standard lens for previous Nex before it was replace with sel1650. so.... basically if you buy 1855 is like buying another 1650. hehe. but then u just browsing lens to buy? or prehaps try shooting more with your currently kitlens until you figure its limitation and buy lens base on reason to overcome that limitations.

Flash is always more powerful then hotlights (aka Contiguous light, modeling light, floodlight, LED panel lighting)...

bulb holder burn or not is depend on the holder quality itself, rm150 vs rm800 holder.

basically it depend what 'iso' you require to work on. if you wanted clean iso100-200 iso, you will need more then 10 bulb from one direction which is not effective anymore....

if working with iso1600 (plusminus) as if capturing ambient feel, yea, the bulbs works like ambient light.

another thing with hotlight and model dont mix well. because hotlight hurts eye... you go try look into your ceiling light non stop for 15 minute.... thats how they feel.... XD

the main cons of sigma lens just only no pdaf and no stabilization, otherwise just top up few hundred to 35mm 1.8 sony? =w=

it should be ok of 1/40 sec shutter speed without OSS, if lower than that, better have a tripod to support =w=

This post has been edited by eDwanD: Feb 27 2015, 02:33 PM

Lack of OSS? Up ISO and shutterspeed would do for me :v
I shoot with Sigma 30mm quite often, it's the older version tho:

asd-3479 by bdrc, on Flickr

asd-3497 by bdrc, on Flickr

Oh and this Dota cos shoot too:

asd-04113 by bdrc, on Flickr

This post has been edited by bdrc: Feb 27 2015, 03:07 PM

Whattt... realy?! I thought SEL1855 is a zoom lens!

I would really prefer the Sony lens, probably can save up a little more for it, hmm...

High ISO means more noise, no? Wow, pictures look great. Probably the lack of OSS can help to train a pair of stable hands, hehe.

The Sigmas are excellent, except for some light ghosting effect with light sources in night scenes on the 19. The 30 is really too slow for you to "play around with" IMHO, but its sharper at 2.8 compared to the SEL35 at the same aperture.

And of course, the Siggys have no OSS and PDAF.

The 19mm is a great lens just because it's largely superior to the nearest Sony equivalent (the SEL20), except that the SEL20 is a much smaller (being a pancake).

As for the SEL35 vs Sig30, I find it more of a toss up. I opted for the SEL35 in the end, though truth be known I only keep it around for lowlight shooting and videos nowadays as I prefer the 19mm FL for general shots - the 35 is a bit too long for snapshots and a bit too short to flatten face shots.

So before you start saving up for the SEL35, find out if you even like to shoot in that FL first. No use owning a 35 when you end up wishing you'd gotten an SEL50 instead.

Like edpaul said before, best way is to play with the 1650 more first until you know for sure what you need.

As far as the 1855 goes, if you can live with the need to correct your shots in-camera or through LR, the 1650 is fine actually. The 1855 isn't much better optically, besides NOT needing software correction.

And yes, both are zoom lenses. Though they're also called kit lenses coz that's what Sony usually gives us in the box... though I personally got my A6k body only and got the SEL35 as a "kit lens"... and ended up buying the SEL1650 later anyway for event shoots.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Feb 27 2015, 07:56 PM

Awesome I must say..

I have both EX DN version and I must say it is good budget prime lens. both lens are sharp at centre and soft around the edges. For the price I paid I can't complain.

Eiraku
i would prefer to call the 35mm as prime rather then a kitlens. and no, your A6k + 35 is consider a 'dedicated' combo kit, so i wouldnt call it a kitlens. a lens attached to a body 247 from day one also not consider kitlens. i have 200-400 dedicate to my A77, it is not consider as A77 kitlens.

domo_kun
Kitlens is refer to the basic 'Starter Kit' of photographer, the most basic lens to pair with your camera.

a kitlens would be know as the cheapest all rounder too, 18-55 F3.5-5.6 and tele 55-200 F4-F5.6 (APSC Amount), or 18-55 or 16-50 F3.5-F5.6 and tele 55-210 (e mount).
in the pass, FF kit is refer to the 28-75, 24-105, 35-70, 35-135, variable aperture from F3.5 to 5.6

then come to Kitlens replacement, also as better all rounder, like super zoom 18-200/250/270/300 (i trying to adapt both A and E mount), high quality 16-80 Zeiss, 18-105, and etc.
or bright kitlens replacement, F2.8 kits (A mounts) like SAL16-50F2.8, tammy 1750F2.8, siggy 1755F2.8
or very special dedicated bright lens, the siggy 18-35 F1.8 (A mount)... which means u just save a bunch of money from buying 35F1.8, 30F1.8, 28F1.8, 24F1.8, 20F1.8, 18F1.8 primes.

or some people prefer to stick with primes for the widest possible Aperture for the light you can gain to save as much ISO stops as you can.

guys, do we really need the oss if shoot on tripod most of the time?

Newbie here. Nex 6 owner.

That's why I said "kit lens" (with inverted commas) lol. Just so everyone's clear, it's not.

And besides, that argument only holds true nowadays, as for YEARS your average "kit lens" for most of the film MF era was the 50mm prime. It was given to you with the camera as a "kit", hence it's a "kit lens".

Back then nobody gave you a zoom as a freebie lens.

Heck, it's arguable that for the A7 + FE35 kit, the FE35 can even be considered as a "kit lens" as Sony bundled it together. But as you said, the *modern* "kit lens" definition usually calls for a zoom so yeah.

Anyways, here's a spampix for the morning, taken with my Nikkor S.C 50 at f1.4 (as adapted lenses lose EXIF):


Bougainvillea Morning by Eirakkun, on Flickr

And awiekupo : OSS is actually calibrated for hand held shake. It's fine if you use it on a tripod for "normal" shooting, but for long exposures you're actually advised to turn OSS off. If not it will actually compensate for shake that isn't there.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Feb 28 2015, 09:39 AM

nicely said!

oh yes, it's the economical price that attracted me in the first place

hmm, all this while, i thought kit lens refers to the lens that comes with the camera when it's purchased? true that before knowing what to do, or what the lens can do, one gotta learn and master the techniques of using them, first... i'll post and share some of my noobie shots later today

Do you guys get a photo printer and print those photos? like your children...family... those photo that worth to print and DIY a frame and stick those in?? feel like doing that.... jjust dont know what printer to get...