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 The Sony Alpha Thread V61, From A to E mount!

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post Feb 27 2015, 07:37 AM

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how about these Sigma lens for NEX 6? Sony prime lens for NEX is a little over my budget, unfortunately... Tips? sweat.gif

Sigma 30mm F2.8 DN Art for Sony NEX
Sigma 19mm F2.8 DN Art For Sony NEX
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post Feb 27 2015, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(edpaul @ Feb 27 2015, 08:35 AM)
domokun, the only worries i have with 3rd party E mount is that the 3rd party lens wont able to have the OSPDAF.
but honestly, ANY MODERN lens designed/made from 2010 onwards are pretty SHARP for any 12mp system, i dont know any lens(post 2010) has bad reputation... speed wise, i still find sigma HSM or/and their standard motor are pretty slow.
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Read and watched pretty decent reviews on these 2 lens and it's rather economical comparing to Sony prime lens that may cost me my arm, haha. Only downside, I think, for a noob like me is that these 2 lens don't come with the OSS like Sony. I'm still on my 16-50mm kit lens for NEX 6.

Worth buying for beginners to play with before zooming down to the advanced units?
SEL1855

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post Feb 27 2015, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(edpaul @ Feb 27 2015, 09:21 AM)
SEL 1855 is a Kitlens catagory, used as standard lens for previous Nex before it was replace with sel1650. so.... basically if you buy 1855 is like buying another 1650. hehe. but then u just browsing lens to buy? or prehaps try shooting more with your currently kitlens until you figure its limitation and buy lens base on reason to overcome that limitations.
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Whattt... realy?! I thought SEL1855 is a zoom lens! rclxub.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(eDwanD @ Feb 27 2015, 09:57 AM)
the main cons of sigma lens just only no pdaf and no stabilization, otherwise just top up few hundred  to 35mm 1.8 sony? =w=
it should be ok of 1/40 sec shutter speed without OSS, if lower than that, better have a tripod to support =w=
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I would really prefer the Sony lens, probably can save up a little more for it, hmm...

QUOTE(bdrc @ Feb 27 2015, 03:06 PM)
Lack of OSS? Up ISO and shutterspeed would do for me :v
I shoot with Sigma 30mm quite often, it's the older version tho:
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High ISO means more noise, no? Wow, pictures look great. Probably the lack of OSS can help to train a pair of stable hands, hehe.
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post Feb 28 2015, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Feb 27 2015, 07:42 PM)
The Sigmas are excellent, except for some light ghosting effect with light sources in night scenes on the 19. The 30 is really too slow for you to "play around with" IMHO, but its sharper at 2.8 compared to the SEL35 at the same aperture.
And of course, the Siggys have no OSS and PDAF.
The 19mm is a great lens just because it's largely superior to the nearest Sony equivalent (the SEL20), except that the SEL20 is a much smaller (being a pancake).
As for the SEL35 vs Sig30, I find it more of a toss up. I opted for the SEL35 in the end, though truth be known I only keep it around for lowlight shooting and videos nowadays as I prefer the 19mm FL for general shots - the 35 is a bit too long for snapshots and a bit too short to flatten face shots.
So before you start saving up for the SEL35, find out if you even like to shoot in that FL first. No use owning a 35 when you end up wishing you'd gotten an SEL50 instead.
Like edpaul said before, best way is to play with the 1650 more first until you know for sure what you need.
As far as the 1855 goes, if you can live with the need to correct your shots in-camera or through LR, the 1650 is fine actually. The 1855 isn't much better optically, besides NOT needing software correction.
And yes, both are zoom lenses. Though they're also called kit lenses coz that's what Sony usually gives us in the box... though I personally got my A6k body only and got the SEL35 as a "kit lens"... and ended up buying the SEL1650 later anyway for event shoots.
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QUOTE(Scourdx @ Feb 27 2015, 11:37 PM)
I have both EX DN version and I must say it is good budget prime lens. both lens are sharp at centre and soft around the edges. For the price I paid I can't complain.
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oh yes, it's the economical price that attracted me in the first place

QUOTE(edpaul @ Feb 28 2015, 12:49 AM)
Eiraku
i would prefer to call the 35mm as prime rather then a kitlens. and no, your A6k + 35 is consider a 'dedicated' combo kit, so i wouldnt call it a kitlens. a lens attached to a body 247 from day one also not consider kitlens. i have 200-400 dedicate to my A77, it is not consider as A77 kitlens.

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Kitlens is refer to the basic 'Starter Kit' of photographer, the most basic lens to pair with your camera.
a kitlens would be know as the cheapest all rounder too, 18-55 F3.5-5.6 and tele 55-200 F4-F5.6 (APSC Amount), or 18-55 or 16-50 F3.5-F5.6 and tele 55-210 (e mount).
in the pass, FF kit is refer to the 28-75, 24-105, 35-70, 35-135, variable aperture from F3.5 to 5.6
then come to Kitlens replacement, also as better all rounder, like super zoom 18-200/250/270/300 (i trying to adapt both A and E mount), high quality 16-80 Zeiss, 18-105, and etc.
or bright kitlens replacement, F2.8 kits (A mounts) like SAL16-50F2.8, tammy 1750F2.8, siggy 1755F2.8
or very special dedicated bright lens, the siggy 18-35 F1.8 (A mount)... which means u just save a bunch of money from buying 35F1.8, 30F1.8, 28F1.8, 24F1.8, 20F1.8, 18F1.8 primes.
or some people prefer to stick with primes for the widest possible Aperture for the light you can gain to save as much ISO stops as you can.
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hmm, all this while, i thought kit lens refers to the lens that comes with the camera when it's purchased? true that before knowing what to do, or what the lens can do, one gotta learn and master the techniques of using them, first... i'll post and share some of my noobie shots later today
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post May 27 2015, 07:54 AM

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Anyone here uses Sigma 19mm for NEX? I've been seeing a lot of positive feedback on this wide angle prime lens for NEX. Any comments from the sifu's here? sweat.gif
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post Jul 20 2015, 03:23 PM

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I've got myself a Manfrotto Compact Action tripod from Lazada, and did my first Time Lapse with the app from Sony. Other than Windows Movie Maker, any other editor that I can use, perhaps? sweat.gif
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post Jul 21 2015, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jul 21 2015, 12:40 AM)
It depends. Though, Shashinki has acceptable prices most of the time. I wouldn't call it the cheapest though.

You might want to cross ref between prices in Sh, YL camera's website and Lelong just to get a clearer picture of how prices are over here - I find that sufficient 99% of the time.
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YL Camera in Pudu Plaza, the BIG shop opposite the Sony shop, right?

QUOTE(nixonyang @ Jul 21 2015, 12:40 AM)
There are Adobe Premier Pro, Vegas
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Cheapskate me, Premier Pro, tooooo expensive... rolleyes.gif I guess I'll stick with Movie Maker, then.

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post Jul 24 2015, 10:17 PM

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Remote control on NEX6, anyone use any before? smile.gif
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post Jul 25 2015, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jul 24 2015, 10:35 PM)
domo_kun What kinda remote? I have 2 on my phone (the official Sony PlayMemories remote via WiFi AND the DSLR Remote android app via my IR blaster) and a tiny external IR remote. They work well on the A6k, should work on the Nex 6.
As for wireless RF remotes or wired remotes via the USB port (including intervalometers), I haven't tried. The DSLR Remote app has basic valometer functions anyway.
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QUOTE(nixonyang @ Jul 25 2015, 04:43 PM)
Remote as in IR remote trigger or with smartphone? I've used the official sony app and a third party time lapse app. Works fine
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Ooops. My bad, question not clear enough. But yes, IR Remote Control for NEX6. So that I don't have to press on the shutter while shooting on tripod. The app on smartphone, hmm, never try that, yet. But I would prefer an extra device rather than phone? Hehe.
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post Jul 27 2015, 12:33 PM

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Thank you for all the suggestions on IR Remote Control, I'll look out for it online and will share upon purchasing one! icon_rolleyes.gif Edited: Searched in eBay and it cost only RM19.01?! I thought it's gonna be xpensive, hahaha...

Which reminds me, how about spare batteries? Say, NP-FW50? Even the duty free shops in airport selling at RM290?! Cheapest I can find is about RM190 in Lazada? A lot of others in Lelong that are going off at less than RM100; definite non original, I believe. Recommended to use non original batteries? How about external USB chargers?

An hour of time lapse shooting eats up about 30% of the battery. I think I may need one additional battery as backup, while traveling especially in cold countries.

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post Jul 27 2015, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jul 27 2015, 01:03 PM)
Yes, you need extra batts for sure. I have 4 and I don't even shoot time lapses.

190 is an OK price for Ori FW50s. If you don't mind 3rd party batts, I've used Octopus branded FW50s and they were okay - as always Ori batts are recommended but the 3rd party units I've used didn't give me much issue, besides being fragile. One of my Octopus batts already have a broken power connector. It works but...

Pisen should be good another locally available brand. If you don't mind eBay try getting Wasabi Power FW50s, they're quite famous for being reliable over in the States.

As for external chargers, grab a "Kingma dual USB FW50" charger from the Bay. Will be doing an external charger shootout soon on me blog but so far the Kingma seems to be the best of the bunch, at least in terms of built quality.

Also, if you're shooting long time lapses, consider getting a battery grip. At least it'll last twice as long.
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Eh, NEX6 where got battery grip?

As for the IR Remote, do I need to do any settings on the camera? Or it'll simply work just like that? I know it sound kinda... stupid? rclxub.gif
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post Jul 27 2015, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(Ah hao @ Jul 27 2015, 01:56 PM)
pm me if u want original new battery, selling below market price.

(extra unit, i got 4 batteries on my hand exclude this new one)
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NP-FW50? PM me, please. Thank you. rclxms.gif

Edited: Estimated delivery Aug 06 - Aug 27, OMG... so long! unsure.gif

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post Jul 28 2015, 07:45 AM

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Crowded street. Day time. I wanted to shoot the street without the crowd. What I can do here, from reading on sites and blogs, etc, shoot with a long exposure settings, say between 15" to 20". But to do so, I'll need to have a filter to reduce the amount of light going through the lens, else it will turn up all white since it's day time. Yes? unsure.gif
Edited: And at situation like this, it will be best to shoot with tripod or mono pod to eliminate shaky images, yes?

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QUOTE(asrul @ Jul 27 2015, 05:12 PM)
Estimated delivery between Monday, Aug. 10 and Wednesday, Aug. 26
same here  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jul 28 2015, 09:21 AM)
I have actually researched about this - wanted to do a series of images that captures just that, some time back. On a film SLR lol.
What you generally need is:
1) Tripod (monopod will not be stable enough).
2) Very dark ND filter (Hoya ND400 at least, ND1000 if you can find it. Maybe even multiple filters if one is not enough).
3) Remote of some sort (to reduce shake).
4) MLU equipped camera (applicable only to DSLR - mirrorless is... mirrorless).
As for shutter speeds, you'll have to experiment. For a totally empty street, you might even have to go to exposures of a few minutes on bulb mode (thus the need for a really dark ND filter + tripod), depending on how busy the street and how bright the lighting conditions are.
Not to mention a really stable place to stick the tripod on. For an exposure of minutes, even small vibrations from people walking around you and cars passing by could affect your pictures.
IINM anyway.
It will be much easier if you simply want them blurred. To completely erase them will need... work.
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1) Tripod - Checked.
2) ND Filter - Only have a Polarized Filter, a Jap brand, I forgotten the name of it but I can dig more on this. I don't think it's the kinda filter that you're talking about here la.
3) IR Remote Control - OTW from HK, thanks to you!
4) MLU Camera - NEX6 only, no intention upgrade, even then, I don't think I'm using all the features and functions in the camera, less know what they actually do or what they can do for me? LOL!

Small vibrations from people walking around? Seriously? To completely remove them off the photo, or blur them out creating the effects on it, it don't really matter. What matters I believe is that I know what I can do with it, and how to do it the right way. The least, when I chance upon such a situation, I know how to configure it, and how to shoot it right. Lots of trial and error, I guess. sweat.gif

QUOTE(lwliam @ Jul 28 2015, 11:35 AM)
There's actually one more way with lesser shuuter speed.
Set on a very steady tripod. Set about 5-10 secs per shot (doesn't matter that much). Here comes the fun bit. Shoot hundreds and hundreds of shot of the same scene without budging the tripod one bit (IR remote works best).
Import to photoshop.. Then...
Nvm.. I think I'll Google it for you instead of typing it all out...
http://toomanyadapters.com/how-to-remove-p...otos-photoshop/
There you go smile.gif
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Jul 28 2015, 01:30 PM)
Exposure stacking a-la startrails? Interesting way of approaching it... thumbup.gif
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Yeah, I read about this before on trails of stars, but didn't realize it can be done to remove people from photos. Similar to the conventional way of shooting and editing time lapse pictures, I guess? Hundreds and hundreds of shots, that will take hours? rclxub.gif

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post Sep 23 2015, 07:58 AM

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A thought. I'm currently using a ThinkTank Retrospective sling bag. Any way to tie a tripod to the bag just so I don't have to carry it with hand? hmm.gif Otherwise, I think I'll have to settle with a backpack to carry both the cam and tripod. Something like this, maybe? http://www.ylcamera.com.my/collections/bag...iant=1017642972
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QUOTE(ieR @ Sep 23 2015, 12:15 PM)
when u asking this, are you thinking of DIY mode?

google lowepro inverse 200aw, look at how the tripod strap is located, you may grab some velcro and strap from cushion/sewing supply shop and DIY a mod for your bag.

another way is to buy two huge ass carabiner, each for each side of your retrospective bag strap, and hook to the tripod bag's D ring. (i did this before, and its very uncomfortable, but its a method of transporting it anyway)
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Yes, considering DIY with the carabineer idea as how you said it in the first place. Else, I'll have to invest on the backpack, instead. Current Retrospective bag can fit in a NEX and accessories minus extra lens, tablet, power banks, inclusive of one fleece. Quite handy, really, but made a mistake that time thinking I can go without a tripod... Mehhh. Plus, sling isn't that convenient for trekking, either. Noob mistake.
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post Sep 28 2015, 10:05 AM

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If I only have a choice between MMCOMPACT-BK Compact Monopod and MMCOMPACTADV-WH Compact Advanced Monopod; which would be better for a mirrorless NEX? rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 2 2015, 08:55 AM

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Another one noob question; Sony kit lens 18-55mm being let go at RM350. Worth getting for the zoom? Sigma 19mm used to be sold at RM750 for new unit, now it's being sold at that price for a used one. rclxub.gif
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post Oct 9 2015, 07:33 AM

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Anyone going for the Photography Festival in Mid Valley? rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 9 2015, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(cyclone9 @ Oct 9 2015, 09:23 AM)
Any interesting stuff?
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No idea, that was why asking... never been to such

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