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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V148, Shale Oil! Bear or bull?

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Bonescythe
post Dec 19 2014, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 19 2014, 12:40 PM)
That was the one I talked about........ .compensations  .u hit  the bull eye...... biggrin.gif
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Ooooo.. tat case finally admit ad aa ??

Tat time was so obvious.. and they dare to come out n say is a mistake.. wtf really !

It is so.blantant obvious tat osk is behind tat pile of shitty move.
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post Dec 19 2014, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 19 2014, 01:15 PM)
Ooooo.. tat case finally admit ad aa ??

Tat time was so obvious.. and they dare to come out n say is a mistake.. wtf really !

It is so.blantant obvious tat osk is behind tat pile of shitty move.
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post Dec 19 2014, 02:48 PM

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Hi Sky Gor, nice to see you here...in your humble opinion, what do you think about SymLife? It has been dropping all the way until RM0.80..
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post Dec 19 2014, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(kancs3118 @ Dec 19 2014, 02:48 PM)
Hi Sky Gor, nice to see you here...in your humble opinion, what do you think about SymLife? It has been dropping all the way until RM0.80..
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Symlife last 4 Q eps is 21.65sen with PE of 5X ,,very good to me... biggrin.gif

Anyway , PBB has only 2 sectors they favour currently i.e property n OG...at the moment...... the rest neutral....

Even for Tambun ..the price drops like OG almost 50% off peak

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post Dec 19 2014, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 19 2014, 03:00 PM)
Symlife last 4 Q eps is 21.65sen with PE of 5X ,,very good to me... biggrin.gif

Anyway ,  PBB has  only 2 sectors they favour currently  i.e property n OG...at the moment...... the rest neutral....

Even for Tambun ..the price drops like OG almost 50% off peak
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SkyGor, sorry if i sounded rude. Do you mind to share what is your average cost? You can PM me...mine is quite high...more than RM1.15
It has been a horrible month - to loss about 30% in 1 month... cry.gif
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post Dec 19 2014, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 19 2014, 03:00 PM)
Symlife last 4 Q eps is 21.65sen with PE of 5X ,,very good to me... biggrin.gif

Anyway ,  PBB has  only 2 sectors they favour currently  i.e property n OG...at the moment...... the rest neutral....

Even for Tambun ..the price drops like OG almost 50% off peak
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reading EPS and PE by itself yield not much meaning to the growth potential of the company.

one has to compare historical EPS and ROE/PE itself to be able to derive meaningful numbers.

just imho.
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post Dec 19 2014, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Dec 19 2014, 03:25 PM)
reading EPS and PE by itself yield not much meaning to the growth potential of the company.

one has to compare historical EPS and ROE/PE itself to be able to derive meaningful numbers.

just imho.
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I say all are not important either biggrin.gif

Importantly find your own secret recipe of making money in stock market..and u multiple your success.story ..... yawn.gif

What is ROE if u are very Good at Futures.......... biggrin.gif

By knowing..ROE .......U know Oil Price trend kah especially u mentioned Historic data are imp hmm.gif

U may do away with oil in Future..I doubt u can do away with housing.....for a young country like us...

Do not forget to compare our housing with Asian countries too..

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post Dec 19 2014, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 19 2014, 03:00 PM)
Symlife last 4 Q eps is 21.65sen with PE of 5X ,,very good to me... biggrin.gif

Anyway ,  PBB has  only 2 sectors they favour currently  i.e property n OG...at the moment...... the rest neutral....

Even for Tambun ..the price drops like OG almost 50% off peak
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Last minute b4 closing pinch some Sym into vault.. thumbup.gif
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post Dec 19 2014, 05:40 PM

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thheavy tanking like submarine.......
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post Dec 19 2014, 06:21 PM

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The FBM KLCI has extend its gains for the third day today as bargain hunting has emerged after the earlier sharp drop on share prices.

However, the benchmark index has ended the week slightly lower at 1,715.99 points, down 17 points or 0.98% from last Friday’s closing of 1,732.99 points.

At market close, the index was 16.04 points or 0.94% higher against Thursday's closing.

Across the board, a total of 1.87 billion shares worth RM2.21 billion were traded. Market breadth was positive, with gainers beating decliners at 606 versus 257, while 277 counters were unchanged.

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post Dec 19 2014, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 19 2014, 07:21 PM)
The FBM KLCI has extend its gains for the third day today as bargain hunting has emerged after the earlier sharp drop on share prices.

However, the benchmark index has ended the week slightly lower at 1,715.99 points, down 17 points or 0.98% from last Friday’s closing of 1,732.99 points.

At market close, the index was 16.04 points or 0.94% higher against Thursday's closing.

Across the board, a total of 1.87 billion shares worth RM2.21 billion were traded. Market breadth was positive, with gainers beating decliners at 606 versus 257, while 277 counters were unchanged.
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I would look at crude oil price tonight and the nyse. If oil can maintain upwards 54usd and nyse mostly green sure bursa continue tommorrow rally...
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post Dec 19 2014, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(kuluuluk @ Dec 19 2014, 04:54 PM)
Last minute b4 closing pinch some Sym into vault..  thumbup.gif
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Keep your fingers cross for this news :-

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post Dec 20 2014, 12:33 PM

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Government-linked funds snap up blue-chip stocks. The Employees Provident Fund (EPF) has bought stocks across various sectors, Bursa Malaysia filings showed.

On Tuesday, the fund bought 551,900 shares in AMMB Holdings Bhd, 100,000 in Kuala Lumpur Kepong Bhd (KLK), 1.29 million in IHH Healthcare Bhd, 1.25 million in Tenaga Nasional Bhd, 400,000 in Petronas Gas Bhd and 1.42 million in Telekom Malaysia Bhd.

Besides the index-linked counters, the pension fund also acquired other stocks like IJM Corp Bhd, Alliance Financial Group Bhd, Gamuda Bhd, Pos Malaysia Bhd and Sunway Bhd.

Interestingly, the fund also bought into a number of real estate investment trusts (Reits) like Axis REIT, Sunway REIT and Capitamalls Malaysia Trust (CMMT).


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post Dec 20 2014, 01:41 PM

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I concluded my view points on the one who can sapu the money from stock market. Retail investors should have the competencies on,

1) Buy low. Prevent being trapped in your first buy.

2) Sell. Investment is not completed until you sell your share for profit. Share is designed to go up naturally, not go down.

3) Safeguard investment. Your money starts to be disappeared when you 'buy'... feed your remiser, security firm, government....many other reasons. Invest your 'time' to safeguard your money and wisely play on 'timing'.

Retail investors have lack of resources (money compared to EPF and fund managers) and team (human resources to do a large amount of analysis, watch the market and network). Hard to influence the market with 'supply and demand'. Our secret weapon is 'time'. Compared to corcordiles, retail investor has advantages of time compared to the pressure of corcordiles to deliver. sweat.gif


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post Dec 20 2014, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(joshuawhlam @ Dec 20 2014, 01:41 PM)
I concluded my view points on the one who can sapu the money from stock market. Retail investors should have the competencies on,

1) Buy low. Prevent being trapped in your first buy.

2) Sell. Investment is not completed until you sell your share for profit. Share is designed to go up naturally, not go down.

3) Safeguard investment. Your money starts to be disappeared when you 'buy'... feed your remiser, security firm, government....many other reasons. Invest your 'time' to safeguard your money and wisely play on 'timing'.

Retail investors have lack of resources (money compared to EPF and fund managers) and team (human resources to do a large amount of analysis, watch the market and network). Hard to influence the market with 'supply and demand'. Our secret weapon is 'time'. Compared to corcordiles, retail investor has advantages of time compared to the pressure of corcordiles to deliver. sweat.gif
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lol.. ur how low is low? there is no exact answer lo. and what price you wish to sell for? at least how many percent profit/loss? got buy for sure got sell ma, unless u wan to save to ur next gen tongue.gif

yup indeed time spent on it. but how long the time spent for how many percent profit? 10yrs for 5% annually? lol.
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post Dec 20 2014, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Dec 19 2014, 10:38 AM)
Nicorp 11 am show?
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post Dec 20 2014, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(Carls_Nemesis @ Dec 20 2014, 09:08 PM)
lol.. ur how low is low? there is no exact answer lo. and what price you wish to sell for? at least how many percent profit/loss? got buy for sure got sell ma, unless u wan to save to ur next gen tongue.gif

yup indeed time spent on it. but how long the time spent for how many percent profit? 10yrs for 5% annually? lol.
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Value investing. Understand the historic volatility of share price and make own prediction quantitatively. Decide market timing to buy with patient. All share is unique with different business nature. Financial analysis should be able to discover the cyclic low price.

Ask simple question, if u aim for 5% profit within T+3, who will buy your shares within 3 days to give you profit?
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post Dec 20 2014, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(joshuawhlam @ Dec 20 2014, 10:23 PM)
Value investing. Understand the historic volatility of share price and make own prediction quantitatively. Decide market timing to buy with patient. All share is unique with different business nature. Financial analysis should be able to discover the cyclic low price.

Ask simple question, if u aim for 5% profit within T+3, who will buy your shares within 3 days to give you profit?
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U use the big word of Value Investing..but explaining more in TA manner..... biggrin.gif

If a company profit is ever increasing ,,then no need to buy at low price.....and FA should be used for the identification of earning vs price u pay for..

Low price u buy but Co could be heading towards a loss making year maybe like some O & G.stocks ..therefore not cheap at all..

On the other hand ..higher price u pay for ...cos u think the co profit could be double ..or 50% more in future..therefore making it relatively cheap in the future..

It comes down to your own judgments......i.e the ability to judge ..

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post Dec 20 2014, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 20 2014, 10:29 PM)
U use the big word of Value Investing..but explaining more in TA manner..... biggrin.gif
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Value investing is an investment strategy to buy the share, which the value of a company (asset etc) are undervalued in the current share price. It is good to study the annual report of company, news and friends in the company. It is easier to evaluate a company in your industry and closely related industry. Risk is lower due to your understanding of their business nature.

Share is unique and investor is also unique. Not all shares are suitable for all investors.
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QUOTE(joshuawhlam @ Dec 20 2014, 10:49 PM)
Value investing is an investment strategy to buy the share, which the value of a company (asset etc) are undervalued in the current share price. It is good to study the annual report of company, news and friends in the company. It is easier to evaluate a company in your industry and closely related industry. Risk is lower due to your understanding of their business nature.

Share is unique and investor is also unique. Not all shares are suitable for all investors.
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So u see U contradict yourself with the opening statement of Low Price....earlier hmm.gif

" Financial analysis should be able to discover the cyclic low price"

" 1) Buy low. Prevent being trapped in your first buy."

An undervalued stock does not mean it is LOW Price.....it is the " Worth" of the money u pay for.....

A Simple example is u pay rm one for the share..then your analysis shows the stock is worth rm 5..per share ...so in simple term it is undervalued..

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