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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V148, Shale Oil! Bear or bull?

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joshuawhlam
post Dec 20 2014, 01:41 PM

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I concluded my view points on the one who can sapu the money from stock market. Retail investors should have the competencies on,

1) Buy low. Prevent being trapped in your first buy.

2) Sell. Investment is not completed until you sell your share for profit. Share is designed to go up naturally, not go down.

3) Safeguard investment. Your money starts to be disappeared when you 'buy'... feed your remiser, security firm, government....many other reasons. Invest your 'time' to safeguard your money and wisely play on 'timing'.

Retail investors have lack of resources (money compared to EPF and fund managers) and team (human resources to do a large amount of analysis, watch the market and network). Hard to influence the market with 'supply and demand'. Our secret weapon is 'time'. Compared to corcordiles, retail investor has advantages of time compared to the pressure of corcordiles to deliver. sweat.gif


joshuawhlam
post Dec 20 2014, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(Carls_Nemesis @ Dec 20 2014, 09:08 PM)
lol.. ur how low is low? there is no exact answer lo. and what price you wish to sell for? at least how many percent profit/loss? got buy for sure got sell ma, unless u wan to save to ur next gen tongue.gif

yup indeed time spent on it. but how long the time spent for how many percent profit? 10yrs for 5% annually? lol.
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Value investing. Understand the historic volatility of share price and make own prediction quantitatively. Decide market timing to buy with patient. All share is unique with different business nature. Financial analysis should be able to discover the cyclic low price.

Ask simple question, if u aim for 5% profit within T+3, who will buy your shares within 3 days to give you profit?
joshuawhlam
post Dec 20 2014, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 20 2014, 10:29 PM)
U use the big word of Value Investing..but explaining more in TA manner..... biggrin.gif
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Value investing is an investment strategy to buy the share, which the value of a company (asset etc) are undervalued in the current share price. It is good to study the annual report of company, news and friends in the company. It is easier to evaluate a company in your industry and closely related industry. Risk is lower due to your understanding of their business nature.

Share is unique and investor is also unique. Not all shares are suitable for all investors.
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post Dec 21 2014, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Dec 20 2014, 10:51 PM)
So u see U contradict yourself with the opening statement of Low Price....earlier hmm.gif

" Financial analysis should be able to discover the cyclic low price"

" 1) Buy low. Prevent being trapped in your first buy."

An undervalued stock does not mean it is LOW Price.....it is the " Worth"  of the money u pay for.....

A Simple example is u pay rm one for the share..then your analysis shows the stock is worth rm 5..per share ...so in simple term it is undervalued..
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Buy low =/= buy undervalue .

Cost of a product manufactured in bulk at RM 1.00. Retail customer buy at RM 1.20. Supplier A buy at RM 0.90 and supplier B buy at RM 0.80. Both A and B buy undervalued product. A expects profit RM 0.30 and B expects profit RM 0.40. B buy low.

Manufacturer sell to transfer the responsibilities to buyer and to complete the investment.
B can sell to A and retail customer to get profit.
A can sell to retail customer and compete with B.
C, D, E, F coming in .......

Manufacturer may cheat. Cost is RM 0.70.
Manufacturer has pressure to hold product and must create a buy good environment.

Buyer decides 'timing' to buy or not to buy based on scientific judgment (fact, figures, experiences, news, comparison etc).




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