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 Unscrupulous Developer, notorious Symphony Life

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rumahmurah
post Feb 23 2015, 11:09 PM

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Even the SPA under the HDA is not always closely followed. Reputable companies with good track record will in all probability deliver their products according to what is contracted in the SPA. As for brochures and media ads - some info may be left out like the exact pricing and the actual address the the development is situated on. My 2 sen.
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post Feb 25 2015, 09:57 PM

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Developers who honour their deals and deliver promises usually have more to gain because people tend to park their money with the more reputable ones.
Symphony Life is only obsessed with short term gains as they openly and blatantly challenge all buyers while displaying their dishonesty for all to witness.

Each year, they would choose to put the company's profits into their own pockets and into other projects than to use a portion of it to honor the promises made to the people, like building the mall and improving the quality of the houses they build.

Yes advertising materials triumphs SPA, but bringing the cases to the tribunal is only useful if they can show monetary damages, and only very few of the victims manage to do that.
But even so, the winners are not compensated for the troubles, pain or mental anguish they endured.

It is obvious the people in charge of this firm has the appetite of a lion but the brains of a goose. They are truly blinded by greed and have nothing more than tunnel visions.

Using the Media to put pressure on them is least costly and the most effective way to deal these crooks, just me 2 cents as well.




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post Feb 26 2015, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(nookie188 @ Dec 9 2014, 05:42 PM)
this is the modus operandi of symphony..

for my unit, they gave us the keys even though no CCC - so they end up paying less LAD .

when i asked the maintenance guy how is it possible for a developer to hand over keys when its obvious
the unit is not ready - he said,  no worries, just fill in the defect form..!  ya, so where do we draw the line hah?

so if an irresponsible developer VP a development without water piping, walls missing, floor tiles and tell you in  your face - just enter into the defect form , how do you feel as buyer? where do one draw the line - which is defect and which is total blatant cheating the buyers?

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duh??? >>>their million dollar tijani oso the same, leaks everywhere. This cheapskate developer use materials so cheap that springs all sorts of leaks.
The underground pipes cracked shortly after vp. Flood everywhere.They couldn't fix it. Endless problems afterwards... Symphony Bolton deny everything and lawyered up. This problem dragged on for yrs. last y rthe owners pumped in loads of cash to put the thing back together. They think itll burst again. btw the tijani units interiors oso leak like water taps..... *sigh*

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post Feb 27 2015, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(PropTrend @ Feb 26 2015, 03:15 PM)
duh??? >>>their million dollar tijani oso the same, leaks everywhere.  This cheapskate developer use materials so cheap that springs all sorts of leaks. 
The underground pipes cracked shortly after vp. Flood everywhere.They couldn't fix it. Endless problems afterwards... Symphony Bolton deny everything and lawyered up.  This problem dragged on for yrs. last y rthe owners pumped in loads of cash to put the thing back together. They think itll burst again. btw the tijani units interiors oso leak like water taps..... *sigh*
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this is very lousy workmanship

they should have done many checks on structure faults and waterproofing..
i can feel those tijani pain as my housing area by bolton also suffer from severe leaks and major piping issues. too bad mine was subsale, dont have the chance to claim warranty..

but frankly speaking, i dont think the so-call mall at the wharf area will work, footprint is too small..
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post Feb 28 2015, 01:40 AM

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When Bolton sell the dream project, they said the mall will transform puchong into a high tech town with arty designs and they surely charged their buyers the price for that concept. Now they hunger for quick VPs to get fash cash and let buyers face big dumpsters opposite.

If land is too small, they can reclaim land, put up more floors for the mall, use strip mall concept and many other choices to make it work, but its useless arguing this now if they are trying so hard to find excuses to not build it

Unit price for a wharf units can easily exchange for a much nicer bigger property in nearby housing estates. Why do these wharf properties cost so much to the buyers? because of a small swimming pool and 2 threadmills + big dumpsters in front of them?

They promised buyers the mall will attract tenants for the wharf like starbucks, banks, papa rich....and other branded outlets, and Jusco for the mall, now the best we got is 1 or 2 mamakstore and kopitiams with cusomters talking loudly, smoking and spitting.

..... truly 5 star wharf development become ZERO star low cost area.

Did anyone drive by the wharf recently? all you can see is a ghost alley filled with empty units and banners dropping down, torn and the whole place looks run down, thanks to Bolton's broken promises + their workers from opposite dumpsters visiting freely.
Not building the mall is one thing, do they really have to do so much bullshiet to makesure the wharf look so undesirable + horrible?


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post Feb 28 2015, 01:41 AM

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post Feb 28 2015, 08:09 AM

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Wow. Bolton should rot in hell
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post Feb 28 2015, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(JustineFaye @ Feb 28 2015, 01:40 AM)
Did anyone drive by the wharf recently? all you can see is a ghost alley filled with empty units and banners dropping down, torn and the whole place looks run down, thanks to Bolton's broken promises +  their workers from opposite dumpsters visiting freely.
Not building the mall is one thing, do they really have to do so much bullshiet to makesure  the wharf look so undesirable +  horrible?
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I had the chance to pass by the wharf so I went the connecting site to look. I saw giagantic dumpsters housing squatters, and it wasn't pretty. The whole place look like a mountain of vomit and an ideal breeding ground for dengue mosquitoes and other diseases. Sadly, I was also told that the buyers have to face this shitz for years and then more.

Each new day they invent a new way to screw over their buyers. Bravo Symphony Life rclxms.gif

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post Mar 1 2015, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(wanchenghuat @ Feb 27 2015, 09:54 AM)
this is very lousy workmanship

they should have done many checks on structure faults and waterproofing..
i can feel those tijani pain as my housing area by bolton also suffer from severe leaks and major piping issues. too bad mine was subsale, dont have the chance to claim warranty..

but frankly speaking, i dont think the so-call mall at the wharf area will work, footprint is too small..
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tijani yes siree .....those tiled floor you can hear hallow sounds when you knock on them *TOCK TOCK TOCK*, they didin't cement the tiles to the floor fully. The wooden floor on the loft is loosely pieced together, and the wood not properly treated. Water poured in through the window cuz its not well sealed. concealed piping in the toilets ,walls and oso the ceiling burst and leaks followed. haha, you didn't lose anything, claiming warranty didn't work for us, repeated repairs fixed the small problems and not the structure...

...flooding everywhere when the underground pipes burst, their lawyers got them out. All the stupid bolton inhouse lawyers should receive automated disbarment and sentenced to live in Bolton's apartments for the rest of their natural lives, without parole! they call it uptown luxury living , my foot ..its a total piece of junk vmad.gif

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post Mar 1 2015, 01:04 PM

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Defects and poor workmanship may make the completed property not liveable. The property is just short of being abandoned. It's safer to go with the BTS model which involves a more straight forward transaction - less hassle and a guaranteed completed house to one's liking and satisfaction. The BTS model in a way can honour the rights and interests of the buyer and most of all it does not involve taxpayers' money. Just my 2 sen.
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post Mar 2 2015, 11:11 AM

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Sad to say but dont buy nadayu 92 phase 3. Now i am starting to doubt other nadayu properties as well. Big technical issue now. If wanna know more msg me personally.
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post Mar 2 2015, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Mar 2 2015, 11:11 AM)
Sad to say but dont buy nadayu 92 phase 3. Now i am starting to doubt other nadayu properties as well. Big technical issue now. If wanna know more msg me personally.
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Boss, if I remember correctly, you bought Nadayu 92 right? Apa jadi?
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post Mar 2 2015, 11:33 AM

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the other day big advert in star symphony life TWY....
look like a luxury, will they do well in bigger residential project?
commercial project just isolated case?
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post Mar 2 2015, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Mar 2 2015, 11:29 AM)
Boss, if I remember correctly, you bought Nadayu 92 right?  Apa jadi?
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Yeah i am very honest. Not like some people here. So biased. Anyway, phase 3 nadayu 92 cannot use phase 1 and 2 clubhouse because different title and thus different jmb and different maintenance. And phase 3 doesnt have own clubhouse. Only bbq pit. Lol. But when they sold us the house, sales exec said all can use.
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post Mar 2 2015, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Mar 2 2015, 11:34 AM)
Yeah i am very honest. Not like some people here. So biased. Anyway, phase 3 nadayu 92 cannot use phase 1 and 2 clubhouse because different title and thus different jmb and different maintenance. And phase 3 doesnt have own clubhouse. Only bbq pit. Lol. But when they sold us the house, sales exec said all can use.
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as long as you pay less Maintenance Fees - the blow is not so hard.

What is the Maintenance Fees with and without club house

Anyway, Nadayu is by Mutiara Goodyear right

I lost track of Property Developer Company from 2004 to 2014

10-years ago, Mutiara Goodyear was not a 'high end developer" but neither was Mah Sing


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QUOTE(AMINT @ Mar 2 2015, 11:34 AM)
Yeah i am very honest. Not like some people here. So biased. Anyway, phase 3 nadayu 92 cannot use phase 1 and 2 clubhouse because different title and thus different jmb and different maintenance. And phase 3 doesnt have own clubhouse. Only bbq pit. Lol. But when they sold us the house, sales exec said all can use.
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For this particular case, I don't know whether the developer over promise or it's the fault of the SA mis-selling but nowadays the SA quality really doh.gif
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post Mar 2 2015, 01:39 PM

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from my own personal observation and experience, almost all developers are crap in this country. Some who used to be good developers have also started to slack on quality and after sales service - its as if in their pursuit to maximize their profits due to the recent boom times, anything goes it seems..and this include screwing the buyers kao kao..


what you pay is not what you get
what is promised is not what you get

for example..

buyers are taken for granted by the developers ..

the law needs to be amended to protect the buyers a lot more ..as it is , developers have the upper hand currently.
So its d big boys vs the little man in the street ..


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post Mar 2 2015, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Mar 2 2015, 11:34 AM)
Yeah i am very honest. Not like some people here. So biased. Anyway, phase 3 nadayu 92 cannot use phase 1 and 2 clubhouse because different title and thus different jmb and different maintenance. And phase 3 doesnt have own clubhouse. Only bbq pit. Lol. But when they sold us the house, sales exec said all can use.
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The most important thing is whether the specific facilities (clubhouse etc) are listed in the SPA/ DMC or not.... if no.. then developer is not obliged to provide it... unless the brochure mention it and buyers undertake to bring developer to court for misrepresentation....
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post Mar 2 2015, 08:33 PM

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Read this and know your rights:

http://www2.nst.com.my/red/brochure-overri...ontract-1.96905

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