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post Jan 13 2007, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(PcWork @ Jan 13 2007, 01:50 PM)
WTF.. it's like i am being attack each time u wanna know somethings about new flagship headphone... i have my very special reason to own 4 HP890. and ijan knew it. he understood it, and according to him, he will buy the same things also if he were in my situation.. hahahahaha urself wanna know then say me wanna know. my money is ready by the way. so since u wanna get it by july, we both get it then if it impressed me.
i go back by june is kinda confirmed. so by the time i going back, u wanna come up to KL? we beg kelisa to let us audit his K701. if ok, then we straight away order from walabies at the same night. lol.
but from what i talk with ijan.. ijan said "you are not an headphone man."
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haha..Relax man. U forgotten i almost wanna get HP890 after under ur influence? Just still in big curiousity how is the performance btwn Hp890 & AKG701 only.
I really hope i can audit all the phone side by side oso. So, i dun need to depend on ppl's review.

Dunno Walabies will give us special discount?!

Waiting for ur update in ur top-listed 3 phones~!.

U can go to Kelisa to audit. I can't give u promise to join the gathering rite now.
(Waoh..i dunno u will be back to here so lateeeeee~~)



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post Jan 13 2007, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(PcWork @ Jan 13 2007, 03:33 PM)
anyway, i am eyeing on K701 =P
tried HD600 and HD650. they are good. but not my type.
grado series also out of my list. =), i don't really like grado sound signature. i need some headphone that can do sweet lower mid . like DT880  or perhaps K701. will wait and see.
that's why i willing to give HD595 a trial before i actually settle for K701 (IF) and it's always better if we can listen more type before comes to final decision.

SR60, SR80, no point getting as performance similar to HP890.
K240, K340 , expensive, not easily driven, and not easily available.
HD600, HD650, don't really like their sound. it's good i can tell. just personal taste plays important roles.
W5000, good. but out of budget. will serious consider if i can manage to get extra  moneyflies.gif
at the moment, only left three on my list, DT880 / K701 / pioneer HDJ1000.
will wait and see how is the cans perform.
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honestly, i much much prefer hp1000 than hd595 biggrin.gif of coz drive with the amp
hp1000 need a good amp then only sound good
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post Jan 13 2007, 05:24 PM

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Wah... want special discount? Everyone get one AKG discount RM10. 3 people get discount RM30 each.
Btw, PCwork, K701 will definately work for you. The lowest end bass hits so deep and it's deeper than DT990 and more refined. The bass is just enough, just deep.
Each flagship has their own strenght, like I am so obsessed with grados.
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post Jan 13 2007, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(s[H]sIkuA @ Jan 13 2007, 03:58 PM)
Its personal taste , maybe to him SR60 is not what he likes? And I heard someone say the SR60 sounds alike to the KSC75? If thats the case, I think I am going to love it tongue.gif
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That is sooo not true, KSC75 are schmuck to me compared to SR60 smile.gif no offence, consider it preferences.

QUOTE(PcWork @ Jan 13 2007, 04:00 PM)
well. at least it is true to my ear.
no point for me getting another entry level headphone. right?
the upgrade is just too small. why bother?

ps : i did AB test with akabane@Drjacker SR80 , and Dinodog_JR's SR60.
=) i am not claim those things simply by just "i think"
and the source is Zen Micro, Sharp MD.
amp is Cmoy.
cable, my own cable.
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That's why i said, you were never meant to be a Head-Fi, dun get K701 without thorough testing on your own rig (source, amp and everything). You're a hi-Fi guy, keep it real thumbup.gif


QUOTE(walabies @ Jan 13 2007, 05:24 PM)
Wah... want special discount? Everyone get one AKG discount RM10. 3 people get discount RM30 each.
Btw, PCwork, K701 will definately work for you. The lowest end bass hits so deep and it's deeper than DT990 and more refined. The bass is just enough, just deep.
Each flagship has their own strenght, like I am so obsessed with grados.
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TRUE TRUE..the bass detail is so there after sum time of burning. However, not as punchy and impactful as a RS1, but it shows the hidden detail in all the bass slams, has the bass extension and very low hitting notes smile.gif after sum time, i can say i prefer the k701 bass more than any cans i ever had.

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post Jan 14 2007, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(dinodog_Jr @ Jan 11 2007, 01:00 PM)
woo... i love the black steel headcan in AKG601 ler.. It looks more elegant~..
What AKG601 need to mod is the headband to brown or black leather ..Dat's all it will turn into a sexy headphone.

is AKG601 & AKG701 having the same headcan size? I feel AKG601 looking a little smaller in these pic here.

sonyman, the bottom left is DT231? Err...Dun tell me the Upper Right is Altec Lansing hp... hee..

U dun wait for me ler.. U can go ahead anytime for 701.. Or u wanna join me at the 1st of July?

thx for taking pic in the early morning.. why no sleep yet?
issit thinking harder to get AKG701 sooner? Good to see AKG601 pic, since most of the ppl only got AKG701..
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yes it is a dt 231, thats my very first highend headphone, i mean at that time of my study, mana ada think of 601 and the rest, the second one was a sr 60 and no altec lansing here, it is a philips 805, a friend brought to show off, testing on the new ld 2+

i have never touch a 701 b4 so i wont know the size. not even in the shop, as audiomatic guy say that, unless u wanna buy i will open, if not i wont open, once open i cannot sell,, thats the quote i was given when testing the headphone. but of course this is malaysia mah, niche market, always like this..
so i hope to see a 701 soon and of course listen to it, and test it like for many hours and wear my 601 back and hope that there is a difference, at least if not then i will say bye bye to 701, if it just dont show itself, i mean it better, hehe, no offence, i really havent heard 701 b4, unless anyone out there has listen to both, not depending on other ppl tell u that the 701 is better....

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post Jan 14 2007, 07:28 AM

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QUOTE(ijan @ Jan 13 2007, 11:44 PM)
That is sooo not true, KSC75 are schmuck to me compared to SR60 smile.gif no offence, consider it preferences.
That's why i said, you were never meant to be a Head-Fi, dun get K701 without thorough testing on your own rig (source, amp and everything). You're a hi-Fi guy, keep it real thumbup.gif
TRUE TRUE..the bass detail is so there after sum time of burning. However, not as punchy and impactful as a RS1, but it shows the hidden detail in all the bass slams, has the bass extension and very low hitting notes smile.gif after sum time, i can say i prefer the k701 bass more than any cans i ever had.
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It's the bass that separate my likings. Maybe I love more on impactful ones, not those who hits deep into your brain. Soundstage wise I think nothing could compare with it, except the electrostats.

QUOTE(sonyman @ Jan 14 2007, 01:31 AM)
yes it is a dt 231, thats my very first highend headphone, i mean at that time of my study, mana ada think of 601 and the rest, the second one was a sr 60 and no altec lansing here, it is a philips 805, a friend brought to show off,  testing on the new ld 2+

i have never touch a 701 b4 so i wont know the size. not even in the shop, as audiomatic guy say that, unless u wanna buy i will open, if not i wont open, once open i cannot sell,, thats the quote i was given when testing the headphone. but of course this is malaysia mah, niche market, always like this..
so i hope to see a 701 soon and of course listen to it, and test it like for many hours and wear my 601 back and hope that there is a difference, at least if not then i will say bye bye to 701, if it just dont show itself, i mean it better, hehe, no offence, i really havent heard 701 b4, unless anyone out there has listen to both, not depending on other ppl tell u that the 701 is better....

ciau
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Tell ijan come to KL after new year? Lol, he has so many things to offer here. Both skills and 'ka changs'.
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post Jan 14 2007, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(walabies @ Jan 13 2007, 05:24 PM)
Wah... want special discount? Everyone get one AKG discount RM10. 3 people get discount RM30 each.
Btw, PCwork, K701 will definately work for you. The lowest end bass hits so deep and it's deeper than DT990 and more refined. The bass is just enough, just deep.
Each flagship has their own strenght, like I am so obsessed with grados.
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will listen to it. if i am happy with it, definately will get from u. together with dino.
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dino is so impressed by AKG 701 sound stage.
by the way. lets see then, if the AKG can't seduce me to buy, i think i am really have to admit i am not a headphone guy.
but i really hope i will be impressed deeply by the 701, as it can save me hell lot of money. =P
compare to speaker.

QUOTE(walabies @ Jan 14 2007, 07:28 AM)
It's the bass that separate my likings. Maybe I love more on impactful ones, not those who hits deep into your brain. Soundstage wise I think nothing could compare with it, except the electrostats.
Tell ijan come to KL after new year? Lol, he has so many things to offer here. Both skills and 'ka changs'.
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i don't like impact bass. i love DEEEEEEP bass.. =P

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post Jan 14 2007, 01:53 PM

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yeap...compare to speakers...RM1k or RM2k is nothing....
but headphone will produce RM10k's speaker sound...but its sendiri syok,1 person can enjoy at a time only
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QUOTE(justone @ Jan 14 2007, 01:53 PM)
yeap...compare to speakers...RM1k or RM2k is nothing....
but headphone will produce RM10k's speaker sound...but its sendiri syok,1 person can enjoy at a time only
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don't know. so long time until now, i prefer RM 2K speaker more than RM 2K headphone.. =)
but of course, HP890 is really cheap and good enough for me.

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liked headphone bcoz speakers i normally listen quite loud...not until neighbour complains of coz...but my bro will come n knock on the door..."ei,turn down d volume" or my sis will say "aiyo,y u listen to this type of songs..off it la"....make me no mood to listen some more...

headphone solved my prob n sounds good oso...
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QUOTE(justone @ Jan 14 2007, 02:52 PM)
liked headphone bcoz speakers i normally listen quite loud...not until neighbour complains of coz...but my bro will come n knock on the door..."ei,turn down d volume" or my sis will say "aiyo,y u listen to this type of songs..off it la"....make me no mood to listen some more...

headphone solved my prob n sounds good oso...
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true true true..one of the more important reason why im on cans.
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hey sonyman.. that ppl really dunno make business. If u go Music by Design, Simon will give u try RS-1 lagi.. Nvm, i oso wonder AKG601 & AKG701 got HOW BIG sound difference. Only u can share the experience wif all of us here. Consider u haf listen to a few pair of headphones. U should be qualify to provide quite a reliable source for us.

Before u audition AKG701, plant the AKG601 sound signature into ur mindset first. To me, when u are doin audition in shop. Ur mind will going to have alot of placebo effects. If u think dat thing good, u will keep convincing urself How good it is. If dat thing got one issue(such as price or design or others reviews from somewhere) dat u dun like. U will probably keep finding excuses to reject it.

I not sure if this happend to anyone of us here.

Pcwork is right on the bass.. Bass impact listen longer will head dizzy.
Bass depth- makes music so alive. I enjoy the bass resonance.
Btw, i cannot tell How Good is AKG701 soundstage. U need to find out for me. i dunno How good is Hp890 soundstage as i dun haf one to study its performance for years. And i had listened to it so short while during gathering moment only.


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QUOTE(dinodog_Jr @ Jan 14 2007, 05:34 PM)
hey sonyman.. that ppl really dunno make business. If u go Music by Design, Simon will give u try RS-1 lagi.. Nvm, i oso wonder AKG601 & AKG701 got HOW BIG sound difference. Only u can share the experience wif all of us here. Consider u haf listen to a few pair of headphones. U should be qualify to provide quite a reliable source for us.

Before u audition AKG701, plant the AKG601 sound signature into ur mindset first. To me, when u are doin audition in shop. Ur mind will going to have alot of placebo effects.  If u think dat thing good, u will keep convincing urself How good it is. If dat thing got one issue(such as price or design or others reviews from somewhere) dat u dun like. U will probably keep finding excuses to reject it.

I not sure if this happend to anyone of us here.

Pcwork is right on the bass.. Bass impact listen longer will head dizzy.
Bass depth- makes music so alive. I enjoy the bass resonance.
Btw, i cannot tell How Good is AKG701 soundstage. U need to find out for me. i dunno How good is Hp890 soundstage as i dun haf one to study its performance for years. And i had listened to it so short while during gathering moment only.
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nvm i will go to kelisa house for long long time to listen. no worry.
=P of course, IF he allowing me to go. hahha

here's interesting things i found in internet about K701
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Whether you prefer the holistic approach or like to listen analytically, the K 701 will turn perception into pure enjoyment. AKG is the first manufacturer in the world to use revolutionary flat-wire technology in headphones, namely, the K 701. The result is a truly dramatic sound that places every musician at their correct location with pinpoint accuracy. This kind of agility, spaciousness, brilliant highs, and velvety, punchy bass is simply miraculous. These superlative open-back dynamic headphones provide an outstandingly accurate sound and excellent imaging. Try the K 701 and find out what ingenious headphone engineering can do for you.

    * Revolutionary flat-wire voice coil technology
    * Patented AKG Varimotion ultra-precision two-layer diaphragm
    * Self-adjusting cushioned genuine-leather headband
    * Bi-wiring, high-performance cable with 1/4" jack plug
    * Comfortable, specially shaped "3D-Form" ear pads
    * Complete with stylish storage cradle
    * Individually tested and numbered
Product Specifications
Type :Open-back, dynamic headphones Efficiency :105 dB/V
Frequency range :10 Hz to 39.8 kHz
Rated impedance :62 ohms
Max. input power :200 mW
Cable :bi-wiring, single-sided, 99.99% oxygen-free cable, 3 m (10 ft.)
Connector :1/4" hard gold plated
Net weight (without cable) :235 g (8.3 oz.)
Patent(s) :Varimotion - multiple-thickness diaphragm for dynamic transducer (Patent no. AT 403.751, US 6.185.809)
first i were wondering, how they manage to make a diaphragm sounds so even in all frequency, as we know the physical characteristic of the plastic / mylar / watever membrane has a nod point... =P
but hell they are cleaver to make the diaphragm into different thickness to eliminate the sound resonance problems, and increase accuracy. not sure about other brand though. but this really impressed me. even though i haven't heard it. and i am quite a noob in physics..
and this really deserve a huge successfull. rather than just blindly upgrade the magnet gauss and decrease the voice coil weight / changing in membrane material and then slap in a new model then selling it higher price.

as far as i remember, HD650 has a driver which has a big hole in the middle, hence the air pressure is balance, membrane can vibrate faster. and the duofole to increase the rigidity of the membrane... cool things.


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QUOTE(PcWork @ Jan 14 2007, 06:30 PM)
nvm i will go to kelisa house for long long time to listen. no worry.
=P of course, IF he allowing me to go. hahha

here's interesting things i found in internet about K701
first i were wondering, how they manage to make a diaphragm sounds so even in all frequency, as we know the physical characteristic of the plastic / mylar / watever membrane has a nod point... =P
but hell they are cleaver to make the diaphragm into different thickness to eliminate the sound resonance problems, and increase accuracy. not sure about other brand though. but this really impressed me. even though i haven't heard it. and i am quite a noob in physics..
and this really deserve a huge successfull. rather than just blindly upgrade the magnet gauss and decrease the voice coil weight / changing in membrane material and then slap in a new model then selling it higher price.

as far as i remember, HD650 has a driver which has a big hole in the middle, hence the air pressure is balance, membrane can vibrate faster. and the duofole to increase the rigidity of the membrane... cool things.
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Hmmmm ... the layout of the info u found inet looks very very familiar hor. I know where u got this from ... brows.gif
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QUOTE(audiojunkie @ Jan 14 2007, 08:37 PM)
Hmmmm ... the layout of the info u found inet looks very very familiar hor. I know where u got this from ...  brows.gif
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do a search in google for AKG K701, u will get thousand of pages, and perhaps there's 200 page showing the same spec from manufacture. there's no secret where it comes from. =)
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The more you look at the pages of K701 review, the more poisoned you will get. Get off of it. =)
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ugh, i'm just back from my holiday. cant seem to enjoy the goodness of 701 now, i guess i "forgot" how good they were.
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Placebo effect?
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QUOTE(PcWork @ Jan 14 2007, 01:44 PM)
i don't like impact bass. i love DEEEEEEP bass.. =P
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what is the difference between impact bass and deep bass?
noob here sweat.gif

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QUOTE(walabies @ Jan 15 2007, 12:25 PM)
Placebo effect?
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placebo - Something of no intrinsic remedial value that is used to appease or reassure another.
安慰的话,宽心的话:某些没有内在补救作用的东西,仅仅用来安慰他人

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