oh ya. i forgotten hehe.. yea, both very hardworking former colleagues..

hmm.. yeap, most A8ers are on notice. Infact, half of us had already left

oh , cannot say like that, A3ers also got a few AMs ma. Infact, their headcounts are higher than A8ers now. Hmm... i still surviving? haha, why you so sure i am not a 2010 new joiner?

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Added on May 3, 2010, 6:22 pmtry ringing up HR dept and ask for your status, pal


life's GREAT!

This post has been edited by abcdefcuk: May 3 2010, 06:22 PM

Audit firms do accept internship, provided your results are good.

If you intend to take Audit firm as your "spring board", Big4 is a popular choice, but there are trade offs compared to small/mid audit firms.
If you intend to become a Partner of a Audit firm, Big4 again is a popular choice, but not necessary better.

Working in Big4 makes your resume looks good to some extend

Small/medium sized audit firms are usually locally established companies, their clients are often small/medium sized companies. Big4 companies usually audit Fortune 500 companies and many MNCs. So it depends whether you want to audit small accounts or big accounts.

Auditing small accounts has it's benefits too, you get to be exposed to full set of accounts. Where else, in a Big4, the first few years, you're gonna be audting a fixed area, like bank, AR, Inventories, or AP etc... or worse is statutory accounts, or holding company which is idle of activities, nothing much to learn from. On off peak season, if you're too junior, they might even ask you to do lots of photocopying & filing work for Seniors Sometimes it depends on your luck which client you're gonna be assigned to, so you gotta be good friends with your manager.

Working in Big4 has it's perks too, you get to be exposed to many clients, so you would have many contacts. You build a good social network of colleagues and useful contacts This is hard to find in small/mid sized audit firms.

Nevertheless, if you can't stand finding yourself working until 4-5 am in the morning just to rush an account... audit is not for you Good Luck in your search for a better career.

please let me know this, pleaseeeee... *sorry to jump in*

i'll be doing vacation work in corporate tax at one of the big4.. i think i may have a problem.. i have not yet studied corporate tax..

is it okay for me to go there without doing "preliminary study"???

thanksssss!

Agree on everything except that.
If you work for MNC or conglomerate that rule will not apply.
If you work for a terribly understaffed team with limited resources, that does not apply.
If your senior wants to groomed you so that s(he) can leave, that does not apply
If your client wants extra arrangements, merger, IPO, restructuring,..... that does not apply.

I am still at bloody peak as it is, all broken promises

You will be fine, don't worry.. Don't think the managers will expect you to do huge tax computation anyway.
Which firm are you heading to btw?

kpmg. for only 2 months
hopefully will be there again next may for the purpose of internship
but actually.. any of the big4 will be fine.. lol..
kpmg is a bit far away from my house.. at least an hour and a half..
just because i don't have a car..
i can't imagine spending more than three hours on taking lrt and busses every day

Unless you are just back from a secondment . The thing is at the beginning, there were more A8 people than A3 people. So that shows the huge change from way back then and how the department's standards has fallen.

Couldn't agree more

Darn you ppl enjoying yourself...

Hi all, is 25/26 too 'old' to join the graduate recruitment program?

no,

but it wud be yes if you mind working under someone who is younger than you

nowadays, graduate as young as 21 years old join the firm........

No, but if you're the type that has low self confidence and feels demotivated when someone younger than you is a few ranks higher, better not.

no one just got back from secondment except for YEE isnt it? haha, i certainly am not Colin. Colin is only coming back midyear as i heard. Infact, i dont think he wants to come back also hahaha..

Yep. When we first merge, there were more of us from A8 than A3. Both headcounts in terms of seniors and assistants. But now, both way has changed drastically.

Well, i wouldnt say the dept's standard has fallen. Its not nice to say it this way seeing there are more A3 ppls now ma. A3 are always more superior than us


Largely depend on yourself. Do you mind being an assistant to a 22 year old senior? if you dont, there is no problem at all as I believe no firms hire newcomer based on whether they are too old or not. The only item which will be in context is whether your prior experience will be "valued" by the hiring firm or not.

Good luck.

looks like i'll be seeing you soon then..

Well, a very good director had just return from secondment to PPD, heard he's a nice guy too.

The thing is the fun factor in auditing has disappeared as compared to pre-merge times. People in the dept has become far too individualistic. I heard that during the old times in the old building, A8 people used to have lunch together in a big group and birthdays are celebrated too in the dept. Its like one big family during those days. Turnover rate was one of the lowest among all the depts in KPMG and considered to be the best dept to work in due to its working culture.

Sorry for bringing up the good old times back but this is what I have gathered from my A8 seniors that I had the honour and privilege to work with. In fact, the whole lot were A8 people . And they were nice seniors too as they don't do things like staying late for the sake of staying and talking a whole lot of crap while working.

I couldn't help but laugh

yes, sooooon.. coming monday 8.30am.. lol..
please tunjuk ajar

you're in tax dep?! intern too? or working??
don't know what to expect in my first ever job and i'm sooooo nervous!!!
ha-ha-ha-
i'm having exams at the moment btw.. don't have much time to think about it
see you
and, good night

yup i'm in corporate tax.. working.. but i'm undergoing training now along with 2 other relatively new joiners so you won't be seeing us much in the office until the 3rd week of may.. haha

i start in week2
1 more week to go.. it isn't too long.. haha..

Have all of you started preparing for IAFG 2010? Who is the host for this year?

BTW, who won last year??

Hope got time to go / participate. Part of KPI