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Itu_Dia_Man
post Oct 18 2009, 10:21 PM

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Hey guys, just wanna ask a question here. I am attending an interview at KPMG tomorrow. Is it conducted at the 10th floor of the KPMG Tower and how many interviewers will there be? I heard that usually a Dutch guy will be in charge of the interview process.

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post Oct 19 2009, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(sigheart @ Oct 19 2009, 03:31 PM)
Hi may I know which department did you apply to and how long till you got the invite for an interview session from the time you applied ?
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I applied for the audit assistant post. I applied on Monday two weeks ago and received the interview invite on Tuesday last week. If you have not received a reply within 2 weeks, I suggest you call them up to ask about your application status.
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post Oct 21 2009, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(abcdefcuk @ Oct 21 2009, 04:21 PM)
that would be ivo. he's the hr manager who would help facilitate your job application. depends on ur luck la. my juniors said they kena interviewed by one (usually manager). i heard from my senior last time while i was junior (now manager already), they kena interviewed by two partners at one go.

as for myself, i was interviewed by a partner. maybe that time she damn free O.o

but the trend now is that usually, only managers (usually only one) will interview fresh grads.

remember who interviewed u and post his/her name here yah tongue.gif want c which dept u going to suffer in HAHAHAHHAHA


I see. One of my classmates got interviewed by a Mat Salleh, that's why I knew about that. Lol, maybe I am quite lucky because it's a manager who interviewed me. And yeah, it would be good thumbup.gif to hear from you what's it like to work under the interviewer, Ms. Ng from Audit M.

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good luck. come in kpmg, and help the current kpmg auditors suffer less in the upcoming months.
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Lol, is KPMG seriously in need of manpower now? They made me a conditional offer already subject to medical so I just need to iron a few things out before I can collect my offer letter.
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post Oct 22 2009, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(abcdefcuk @ Oct 22 2009, 07:01 PM)
ng weng yee? hahaha.. ok good luck! was she.. GENTLE with u? biggrin.gif lol.. or she was busy showing off her overseas experience? she just became manager only and came back to the firm. last month i think.

lol, kpmg audit M is seriously in need of manpower.

good luck, i am sure ur medical wont have issue smile.gif
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Lol, I sense a lot of sarcasm too in your message sweat.gif . Well, at least I have something 'good' to look forward to when I get there biggrin.gif. About the manpower part, it seems that you specifically address only audit M, how about the other divisions? And would you mind telling me from which audit letter you are from smile.gif? Thank you for your comments, at least I know what to expect now so that I won't have a heart attack during my medical icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 22 2009, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(abcdefcuk @ Oct 22 2009, 10:34 PM)
lol, if u take it on a right weight, u'd actually realise i'm merely warming u up into audit m. when u come into audit m, u'll find all my messages 2 u are nothing negative but welcoming. only thing is, i am welcoming u in advance to audit m's family hahaha. yes, i am only specifically address audit m because audit m is made out of audit m1 and audit m2. those were old time story. and u can ask anyone u know from kpmg, about audit m1's working culture. btw, audit m1 is formerly known as A3. old timers will tell u what about A3.

other divisions, as far i know, audit G and audit P is quite relaxing. as audit K manages various O&G clients, they are often in peak. the fact that they currently only have one senior2 who hasnt tendered/serving notice, they're having a ball of time.

as for audit m, AUDIT M = Audit M1 (A3) + Audit M2(A8). most of audit m2 seniors left already after since m1 and m2 merged. notice why i only mentioned m2 seniors are leaving? haha.

i am from Audit M2 (A8) if u havent realise my sarcasm yet hahaha.

yep, try not to have too much of a heart attack when ur senior tell u to bring ur backpack and toothbrush over the weekend okay? (if u so "lucky" get to masuk all M1 job, that is).

cheers bro biggrin.gif
man.. how i wish someone would actually write those thing for me when i was deciding to join kpmg/ey/pwc.

maybe got, but i didnt log in lyn that time...

oh well...
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Yeah, I do find it welcoming. The story you got there is quite interesting. What I only knew was 8 divisions were trimmed down to 4. So when I ask my interviewer "Was this way more efficient?", she answered "Ya, the resources were used better". Now I know what it really meant, nod.gif . Thank goodness I join lyn for all this advice, it seems a brilliant idea now icon_idea.gif . About the last bit, the least I could do is this notworthy.gif
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post Oct 23 2009, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(abcdefcuk @ Oct 22 2009, 11:50 PM)
i hope the story would have help u make ur decision alright? i find it disheartening to see so many fellow accounting student who slaved their way for 3 years in uni only to come into audit m and get cheese off. i have countless juniors who left after a couple of weeks. record is one week and off she goes! may u can come in for a day and leave. help us set another record perhaps? jkjk

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Well, I would not know whether I can take it or not until I actually experience it. I have heard countless stories of "life as an auditor" and mostly can be summed up in two words: no life. However, I do see it as a positive challenge to start my career with. Would 6 days count as a record? laugh.gif
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post Oct 23 2009, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(abcdefcuk @ Oct 23 2009, 12:10 AM)
dude, not to pour cold water on u, i am not ur interviewer, and this is not an interview session. u dont have to give me the "i see it as a positive challenge" thing to me lol. i wont judge u dude. i just hope u dont put too much hope into its all shiny and dandy job as an auditor. if u're up for it, good for u!

and yes, please stay more than a week if u can lol.

we need more fellow staff to help soldier through the upcoming months anyway!

life as an auditor in EY, PWC or AUDIT M/Audit P is stark contrast. really. i was from EY. I have a friend in PwC. We're all same level now.
he's bloody enjoying life with his paypacket more than mine.
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Ya I know, as the saying goes, life is not a bed of roses. Well, as a young newbie, if you are not going to slog now, then when will it be right? I do appreciate your bit of advice and insights into auditing because I am a beginner in this field. In short, just need to be ready mentally and physically to take whatever stuff thrown at you. If you can hack it here, then you can hack it anywhere.

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Wait until they asked you to travel to a very far client. I kena this week, he he now browsing net from the hotel provided by client after audit work. Last week have to drive 1 hour back & forth from another client's place.
Do you have any requirement to take up professional courses like ACCA ? If yes then your life will slowly end from there.


Care to explain why ACCA can eat your life away blink.gif ? I do intend to pursue professional qualifications (has not decided which yet) after gaining some work experience 1st. I know that both working and studying at the same time will put a lot of strain on your body both mentally and physically due to the high pressure involved. It's not worth it, no?



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post Oct 28 2009, 10:56 PM

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Quick question here, is the overtime allowance abolished in the Big Four?
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post Oct 28 2009, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(chess_gal @ Oct 28 2009, 11:09 PM)
Meal allowance? Or OT hours? Singapore Big 4 has abolished OT hours since Feb 09 but we can still claim meal allowance
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OT hours. I don't see it mentioned in my offer letter. How about the Malaysian Big Four?
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post Oct 29 2009, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(romeolee @ Oct 29 2009, 12:26 AM)
ItuDiaMan.. we meet again.. haha.. well from my conversation with my seniors.. it depends on ur client lar.. if they are cash rich... what also can claim.. if not.. too bad lar.. thats why EY and PWC advantage.. they have big big PLCs.. but that doesnt mean KPMG dun have.. haha.. but in general.. its hard to justify OT for audit.. coz at the end of the day.. u still gotta finish what ure assigned.. takan they wanna reward u if ure slow.. if lidet all big 4 pokai if everyone takes their own time.. after awhile. its doesnt matter got OT onot.. the question is can u do finish ur work onot..
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Ya, hence 'itu dia' is my favourite way of greeting people, lol. I see, so it depends on the client not so much on the audit firm. Haha, now I can feel a bit of why forumers from Big Four here sometimes use the term 'slave' to describe themselves.
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post Nov 3 2009, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(Jeremycool @ Nov 3 2009, 07:53 PM)
hey guy,

2molo i having an interview session at KPMG(>.<)-audit associate
i hear from my friend tat there will be some test as well...

CURRENTLY I REALLY DON KNOW WAT TO DO!!!!=.=

any Seniors can give me some tips on the interview process?!
really no idea how the test will be...

Thank you!!!
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I am no senior but I just started work at KPMG this week. For my interview, I had an assessment which is called Cubiks test. It has three parts. They are numerical test, verbal reasoning test and you have to write an essay. I did my numerical and verbal reasoning test in a laptop provided by them. Basically, you have to answer a number of questions within a time limit for both. So you have to be accurate and fast. After that, I was given a question card and I just picked one question out of two to write on a piece of paper. If you can pass these tests, then you can proceed to the interview session. If you fail here, then you have to go home cry.gif . As for the interview, I was asked general questions like 'why choose audit', 'why KPMG' and those stuff. Nothing technical there. So good luck to you bro thumbup.gif.


QUOTE(debbieyss @ Nov 3 2009, 08:04 PM)
Received a call from one of the Big 4....
Still wondering if I should pursue this vacancy...
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Which Big Four?
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post Nov 3 2009, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Nov 3 2009, 09:05 PM)
Deloitte
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I am not sure about Deloitte but you should keep your options open for the other Big Three even after you went for the Deloitte interview. I did went for the IMGLAD interview which is conducted by Deloitte using the assessment designed by Thomas International, which is Deloitte's learning arm. Their test is a bit different but the objective is the same which is to see you answer an amount of questions within a time limit. The tests are quite simple in nature but because of the time constraint, you have to be fast and accurate. The tests are like matching the letter 'R' and rotated 'R' and choosing the furthest number from the middle number when you are given three numbers (also got for alphabet). I think the test for audit post should be much tougher but it would go along these lines.

Whether you want to work in a Big Four audit firm is entirely down to what you want actually. Be prepared for long hours and a pressured-cooker environment. A lot of forumers here say to me that its a highly-pressured job and you may have to sacrifice your social life in order to pursue your career goals. However, you do learn a lot and the exposure level will be higher than a normal audit firm. A quote from T Eker here, 'If you are willing to do only what’s easy, life will be hard. But if you’re willing to do what’s hard, life will be easy'. So think wisely about what you really want and good luck thumbup.gif .
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post Nov 3 2009, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Nov 3 2009, 09:30 PM)
Actually is the test designed for all positions? 'Cos I'm not applying for any auditor position, but PR.
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That I do not know. Sorry for assuming that you applied for an audit position. Well, if it is PR you are looking for, then I can understand that you may want to look at other options first. Perhaps any good Samaritan from Deloitte here willing to give some advice in regards to debbieyss's question? Anyway, all the best though for the interview if you decide to go for it.

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post Nov 3 2009, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(Jeremycool @ Nov 3 2009, 10:20 PM)
oh god rclxub.gif
its look scary!!!

i had confidence with the numerial test but really no idea bout the eassy...
and...i had lack of confidence of my english shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
hopefully i can pass the test and get in to the interview...
thx man!!!

u're so kind cool.gif
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Well, its not a technical a topic. The title can range from yourself to maybe your experience in handling certain things. I did the question of describing my career goals within 3 years time. The other one is about an experience of persuading someone to change their mind about something. Make sure you tembak the last few questions if you can't make it in time laugh.gif cuz you can see the timer one and you can see which questions you have not answered. Just read the instruction carefully, no time will be accounted for that. And thanks cuz I got some advice too from senior lyn forumers here b4 my interview. So a little giveback here from me wink.gif
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post Nov 3 2009, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(romeolee @ Nov 3 2009, 11:14 PM)
waoh.. Itu_Dia_Man seems pro giler.. haha.. always see u active in big 4 post.. u shud become big 4 advisor.. hahaha.. btw.. how did ur second day go? hows the test?
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.... shakehead.gif apa pro pro ni. That compliment should be reserved for lyn's finest smile.gif . Well, the second day is all about doing the e-training then e-test and this will go on until Thursday/Friday cuz there is a lot to read up. So just sit in the room and stare at your laptop whole day yawn.gif . Training will continue until the end of next week and then the real deal begins after that.

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post Nov 4 2009, 06:25 AM

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QUOTE(skycom @ Nov 4 2009, 01:53 AM)
Hi, wanna ask bout is it the longer they take to reply u = the chances are lower? how long u have waited for the reply ?


Not really. Sometimes it depends on the HR department and how busy they are. Normally they should reply you within two weeks. If not, I suggest you called them up and check your application status. The reply from KPMG was about 1 week after I applied. But don't wait for 5-6 months for a reply like romeolee la. That's over the top tongue.gif

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If failed means cant proceed for the interview? is that true?
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Yup. I was with another guy during my interview. He was applying for an intern position. After the assessment, he went inside a room with the person who invited him. About 4-5 minutes later, they came out from the room and he told me that his interview session is now concluded because he failed to meet the requirements in the test. That's how I know that they will send you packing if you don't cut it at the assessment stage.
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post Nov 4 2009, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(skycom @ Nov 4 2009, 01:06 PM)
No, I mean how long they took to offer you after your interview?

Actually the final selection is decided by the interviewer(manager)? or the partner?
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They offered me the job two days after my interview. I just know that my interviewer pass her evaluation of me to the HR department and then the HR department will process it and if my application is given the ok there, then only they ask the partner to sign the letter of offer.
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post Nov 27 2009, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(soul_project @ Nov 27 2009, 05:49 PM)
no ak .. kpmg still pays 2.45k for new joiners .. if ur results are above average though
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How about promotion increment? I heard that usually promotion in KPMG is done on a half-year basis but for some reason, the promotion was withhold during this mid-year.
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post Nov 27 2009, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(soul_project @ Nov 27 2009, 06:31 PM)
yeah .. promotion is done on an annual basis this year .. tat sux n it resulted in alot staff resigning .. hopefully it will make them realise n reinstate the half-yearly basis promotion again ..
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So there will not be mid-year promotion anymore? I heard that promotions are not withheld in other Big Fours and many in KPMG got frustrated at being underpaid for doing their seniors job. Is it really important that promotion comes in line with the amount of responsibilities given to you? Because of the withholding, those who join later than those actually due to be promoted, will now be promoted at the same time as them for the year end. So there is the timing reason as well in there.

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post Nov 27 2009, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(soul_project @ Nov 27 2009, 11:44 PM)
but the point is still "what if" those that stay back hoping to be promoted earlier due to lack of personnel doesn't get promoted? then they have to wait another 1 year .. that's y they left lo .. dowan to take the risk since there are other opportunities out there ..
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I see, then they have lose their trust in the firm. I think it must be frustrating for those guys having to deal with all of these uncertainties. Could be our turn next to worry once we have reach the promotion period. Sad to see some seniors go before the peak, kind of demotivating actually sleep.gif

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