Full Fixtures & Results for season 2013/14:- MATCH[ ]DD/MM/YY[ ]HOME TEAM v. AWAY TEAM[ ]RESULTS EPL 17/08/2013 Arsenal 1-3 Aston Villa | Giroud 6' (assist by Chamberlain) UCL 22/08/2013 Fenerbahce 0-3 Arsenal | Gibbs 51' (assist by Walcott), Ramsey 64' (assist by Wilshere), Giroud 77'(P) EPL 24/08/2013 Fulham 1-3 Arsenal | Giroud 14' (assist by Ramsey), Podolski 41', Podolski 68' (assist by Cazorla) UCL 27/08/2013 Arsenal 2-0 Fenerbahce | Ramsey 25', Ramsey 72' (assist by Gibbs)
EPL 01/09/2013 Arsenal 1-0 Tottenham Hotspur | Giroud 23' (assist by Walcott) EPL 14/09/2013 Sunderland 1-3 Arsenal | Giroud 11' (assist by Ozil), Ramsey 67' (assist by Jenkinson), Ramsey 76' (assist by Giroud) UCL 19/09/2013 Olympique Marseille 1-2 Arsenal | Walcott 65', Ramsey 84' (assist by Gibbs) EPL 22/09/2013 Arsenal 3-1 Stoke City | Ramsey 5', Mertesacker 36' (assist by Ozil), Sagna 72' (assist by Ozil) COC 26/09/2013 West Bromwich Albion 1-1 Arsenal | PEN 4-3 | Eisfeld 62' (assist by Bendtner) EPL 28/09/2013 Swansea 1-4 Arsenal | Gnabry 58' (assist by Ramsey), Ramsey 62' (assist by Giroud)
UCL 02/10/2013 Arsenal 2-0 Napoli | Ozil 8' (assist by Ramsey), Giroud 15' (assist by Ozil) EPL 06/10/2013 West Bromwich Albion 1-1 Arsenal | Wilshere 63' (assist by Rosicky) EPL 19/10/2013 Arsenal 4-1 Norwich City | Wilshere 18'(assist by Giroud), Ozil 58'(assist by Giroud), 88' (assist by Ramsey), Ramsey 83' UCL 22/10/2013 Arsenal 1-2 Borussia Dortmund | Giroud 41' (assist by Sagna) EPL 26/10/2013 Arsenal 2-0 Crystal Palace | Arteta 47' (penalty, assist by Gnarby), Giroud 87' (assist by Ramsey) COC 29/10/2013 Arsenal 0-2 Chelsea
EPL 02/11/2013 Arsenal 2-0 Liverpool | S.Cazorla 19' (assist by S.Cazorla), Ramsey 59' (assist by Ozil) UCL 6/11/2013 Arsenal 1-0 Borussia Dortmund | Ramsey 62' (assist by Giroud) EPL 10/11/2013 Manchester United 1-0 Arsenal EPL 23/11/2013 Arsenal 2-0 Southampton | Giroud 22' (assist by Boruc), Giroud 86' (pen) UCL 27/11/2013 Arsenal 2-0 Olympique Marseille | Wilshere 1', Wilshere 65' (assist by Ozil) EPL 30/11/2013 Cardiff City 0-3 Arsenal | Ramsey 29' (assist by Ozil), Flamini 86' (assist by Ozil), Ramsey 90' (assist by Walcott)
EPL 04/12/2013 Arsenal 2-0 Hull City | Bendtner 2' (assist by Jenkinson), Ozil 47' (assist by Ramsey) EPL 07/12/2013 Arsenal 1-1 Everton | Ozil 80' (assist by Walcott) UCL 11/12/2013 Napoli 2-0 Arsenal EPL 14/12/2013 Manchester City 6-3 Arsenal | Walcott 31' (assist by Ozil), 63' (assist by Ramsey), Mertesacker 90' (assist by Ozil) EPL 21/12/2013 Arsenal 0-0 Chelsea EPL 26/12/2013 West Ham United 1-3 Arsenal | Walcott 68', 71 (assist by Podolski), Podolski 79' (assist by Giroud) EPL 28/12/2013 Newcastle United 0-1 Arsenal | Giroud 65' (assist by Walcott)
EPL 01/01/2014 Arsenal 2-0 Cardiff City | Bendtner 89', Walcott 90' (assist by Wilshere) FA 04/01/2014 Round 3 Arsenal 2-0 Tottenham Hotspur | Cazorla 32' (assist by Gnabry), Rosicky 62' EPL 11/01/2014 Aston Villa 1-2 Arsenal | Wilshere 34' (assist by Monreal) , Giroud 35' (assist by Wilshere) EPL 18/01/2014 Arsenal 2-0 Fulham | Cazorla 58' (assist by Wilshere) , 62' FA 25/01/2014 Round 4 Arsenal 4-0 Conventry | Podolski 15' (assist by Ozil), 27' (assist by Per), Giroud 84' (assist by Gibbs), Cazorla 89' EPL 28/01/2014 Southampton 2-2 Arsenal | Giroud 48' (assist by Sagna) , Cazorla 52'
EPL 01/02/2014 Arsenal 2-0 Crystal Palace | Oxlade-Chamberlain 47' (assist by Cazorla), 73' EPl 08/02/2014 Liverpool 5-1 Arsenal | Arteta 69' (assist by Chamberlain) EPL 11/02/2014 Arsenal 0-0 Manchester United | FA 15/02/2014 Round 5 Arsenal 2-1 Liverpool | Oxlade-Chamberlain 17', Podolski 47' (assist by Chamberlain) UCL 19/02/2014 Round of 16 1LRound of 16 Arsenal 0-2 Bayern Munich EPL 22/02/2014 Sunderland 1-4 Arsenal | Giroud 5', 32', Rosicky 43' (assist by Giroud), Koscielny 57'
EPL 01/03/2014 Stoke City 1-0 Arsenal FA 08/03/2014 Quarter Final Arsenal 4-1 Everton | Ozil 7' (assist by Cazorla), Arteta 69'(pen), Giroud 83' (assist by Sagna), 86' (assist by Rosicky) UCL 11/03/2014 Round of 16 2L Bayern Munich 1-1 Arsenal | Podolski 57' EPl 15/03/2014 Tottenham Hotspur 0-1 Arsenal | Rosicky 2' (assist by Chamberlain) EPL 22/03/2014 Chelsea 6-0 Arsenal EPL 08/03/2014 Arsenal 2-2 Swansea | Podolski 73' (assist by Gibbs), Giroud 74' (assist by Podolski) EPL 29/03/2014 Arsenal 1-1 Manchester City | Flamini 52' (assist by Podolski)
EPL 05/04/2014 Everton 3-0 Arsenal FA 12/04/2014 Semi Final Arsenal 1-1 | Mertesacker 81' (assist by Chamberlain) EPL 12/04/2014 Arsenal 3-1 West Ham United | Podoldki 44' (assist by Cazorla), 78' (assist by Ramsey), Giroud 55' (assist by Vermaelen) EPL 19/04/2014 Hull City 0-3 Arsenal | Ramsey 31' (assist by Cazorla), Podolski 45', 54' EPL 26/04/2014 Arsenal 3-0 Newcastle United | Koscielny 26' (Assist by Cazorla), Ozil 41', Giroud 67' (assist by Ozil)
EPL 03/05/2014 Arsenal 1-0 West Bromwich Albion | Giroud 14' (assist by Cazorla) EPL 11/05/2014 Norwich City 0-2 Arsenal | Ramsey 53' (assist by Giroud), Jenkinson 62' FA 17/05/2014 Final Arsenal 3-2 Hull City | Cazorla 17', Koscielny 72', Ramsey 109' (assist by Giroud)
'A meeting in coarse cotton, sixpence for leather and laces. Factory hardened arms mix oil and mud. A century and a quarter forward, Gunners together; battles ahead. From those first heavy steps; Men will become gods.'
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Arsenal Football Club was originally founded in 1886 by employees of the the Dial Square workshop at the Royal Arsenal, which was an armaments factory in South-East London, in a district named Woolwich. Consequently, they were first named ‘Dial Square’ A Scotsman, David Danskin is the man said to have bought the first football for the club. Among the first players for the club was former Nottingham Forest goalkeeper, Fred Beardsley who would be the one to obtain a set of red kits, the colour the Arsenal still wear today. The first match for the new club took place on December 11, 1886 in an open field in the Isle of Dogs (another London district) against a club known as the Eastern Wanderers in which the club won 6-0. What is interesting is that other than the date of this match, everything else written so far may possibly be a myth.
By Christmas however, they had changed the name of their club to Royal Arsenal. They originally played on Plumstead Common before moving to Manor Ground in 1888. Royal Arsenal would move away and then return to Manor Ground as Invicta Ground proved too costly for them. Playing in the amateur leagues proved fruitful for Royal Arsenal as they won a couple of trophies and largely outclassed the other amateur clubs from London. But it wasn’t all rosy for them as the professional clubs attempted to sign their players and they were subsequently banned for amateur football for being too professional, which relegated them to only playing friendlies and in the FA Cup. So 1893 in a bid to gain access into the Football League, Royal Arsenal changed their name to Woolwich Arsenal and became a limited liability company, and attempted to buy the Manor Ground. This ended up working and Woolwich Arsenal began life in the Second Division, where they would spend eleven years, generally finishing mid-table every year. Under the guidance of manager Harry Bradshaw, Woolwich Arsenal would gain promotion to the First Division, where they would lose their manager before the season started to Fulham. They would never come close to challenging for the League title due to financial concerns. Their playing grounds were on the South side of London where most clubs in the division were on the North side, and so to stay afloat they were forced into selling their top players, which resulted in smaller attendances for home matches. In 1910 Woolwich Arsenal went into voluntary liquidation as they were on the verge of bankruptcy when Sir Henry Norris, the chairman of Fulham FC, and other businessmen bought the club. Norris was well aware of the financial difficulties of the location of Woolwich Arsenal and so attempted to merge the club with Fulham, and when that failed, attempted to have them play on alternating Saturdays, which also failed. And so Norris focused on finding a new location for the club, eventually setting his sights on Highbury, in North London, which was met with opposition from the fans and the residents of Highbury. Norris forced it through and spent 125,000 pounds on a new Stadium (9.5 million in 2010 prices) Having been relegated back to the Second Division, Woolwich Arsenal would move to Highbury in 1913, and change their name from ‘Woolwich Arsenal’ to ‘The Arsenal. After four years of no competitive football due to World War 1, The Arsenal would gain promotion into the First Division in a dubious way. In the final season of football in 1914, Arsenal had finished in 6th place, but the First Division was expanding from 20 clubs to 22 and two clubs were to be given the extra two places in the division. Chelsea was given the one place, despite being relegated in the previous season. The other club that had been relegated was none other than Tottenham Hotspur, and they were in the running for the extra place along with Barnsley and Wolves, who had finished ahead of Arsenal. Despite all this, Norris argued that The Arsenal should obtain promotion due to their “long service to league football” and the League board agreed, voting 18-8 to promote The Arsenal. It was alleged that they only managed this promotion due to bribery by Norris with his good friend and chairman of Liverpool, John McKenna, and has fueled the long-standing intense rivalry with Tottenham every since. It has also been argued that Norris was aware of match fixing before the war by Liverpool and Manchester United and used it as a tool to be promoted. Whatever the case, The Arsenal gained entrance into the First Division in 1919 and have never left since, holding the record for the longest unbroken stretch of top-flight football.
After some very poor showing and narrowly avoiding relegation, Norris had enough of his manager Leslie Knighton and hired Herbert Chapman in 1925. Chapman would put his stamp on The Arsenal, changing the way the club did things. Chapman changed the training philosophy and physiotherapy regimes and added numbers to the players shirts, a practice that is now common-place across the footballing world. He also altered the kit, adding white sleeves in 1933, and insisted The Arsenal be known as just ‘Arsenal’ so they would be the first club in alphabetical order every time. He even managed to change the name of the nearby tube station from Gillespie Road to Arsenal, which now has a 52 metre mural to commemorate the team’s move from Highbury in 2006. Chapman also changed the way the game was played on the pitch with the new formation now called ‘WM‘ which can also be described as a 3-2-5 or a 3-2-2-3. It proved so successful that by the late 1930s, most clubs had adopted this formation In Hebert Chapman’s first season in charge, Arsenal made their best finish ever in the league by placing second, but the next few seasons had them stay mid-table. Norris allowed Chapman to spend large sums of money however, and nearly won their first ever trip to the FA Cup final, losing 1-0 to Cardiff City. Three years later, and after buying Arsenal greats Cliff Bastin, David Jack and Alex James, Arsenal made the FA Cup final once more, this time defeating Chapman’s old club Huddersfield Town 2-0 and earning the clubs first ever major trophy. They then won the League title for the first time in 1931, recording their best ever win against Grimsby Town, 9-1, which still stands. In 1932 Arsenal lost the FA Cup Final to Newcastle 2-1 after they had a goal that was wrongly awarded as a goal kick. The 1932-33 season would see Arsenal win their 2nd league title. In January 1934, Herbert Chapman would suddenly pass away from pneumonia, but that would not stop the winning ways as they would win the League again that season, as well as 1934-35 and 1937-38 and another FA Cup in 1936. Arsenal were such a strong club that in 1934, England had seven Arsenal players start a match and defeated the then, World Champions Italy 3-2, and is still a record for most players from a single club starting a match for England. On March 9, 1935 Arsenal saw it’s largest ever attendance for a match versus Sunderland, counting 73,295 fans at Highbury. The Second World War would suspend all competitive football for the 1939-40 season, and Highbury was used as an ARP station (Air Raid Precautions), and had a bomb destroy the North Bank roof and setting fire to the terrace. With Highbury taken Arsenal played their home matches at White Hart Lane while football still continued, although the matches do not count in official statistics as star players would play as ‘guests’ for various clubs when not in the armed forces. The war claimed nine first team Arsenal players, the most of any club in the top flight. Arsenal were also afflicted with a heavy financial burden of repairing their war damaged stadium, and consequently struggled when regular club football began once again in 1946, finishing 13th. Tom Whittaker took over as manager and won the League title in the 1947-48 season. They would then win the FA Cup in 1949-50, a 2-0 win over Liverpool. After nearly winning the Double in the 51-52 season, but failing in both competitions, Arsenal won their 7th League title the following year in what was one
of the closest title races ever, narrowly beating Preston North End only on goal average. The title would ultimately prove to be Arsenal’s last trophy for seventeen long years. Tom Whittaker would pass away in 1956, and Arsenal would try and fail with Jack Crayston, George Swindin and Billy Wright as managers, generally finishing mid-table, and having to endure Tottenham winning the double in 1961. On May 5, 1966 Highbury would see it’s lowest ever attendance be recorded with 4,554 in the stands, and having only one player in England’s 1966 World Cup winning squad, a far cry from the successful and prosperous times under Chapman and Whittaker. Wright, then the manager, was fired and the Arsenal board made the odd appointment of their club physiotherapist Bertie Mee to replace him. The appointment of Bertie Mee was so surprising that he himself requested to return to his old role if he proved unsuccessful after one year. Alongside assistant Dave Sexton, Mee promoted players from the youth team, boys who would become household names in Charlie George, John Radford, and Ray Kennedy. Alongside Frank McLintock and Peter Shorey, they reached the League Cup in 1968 and 1969, but losing each one. They managed to make it into Europe for the 1970 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup however, winning it and ending their long trophy drought. The 1970-71 campaign then came, in which Arsenal recorded their first double winning campaign where they won the FA Cup and the League title, winning the league by defeating Tottenham at White Hart Lane on the last day, and defeating Liverpool 2-1 in extra time at Wembley. (And *we* complain about six years. Try 17 and then let’s talk crisis) Sadly the double winning side was broken up shortly after this, and after finishing 16th and 17, Bertie Mee gave his resignation.
Terry Neill would be appointed manager, and his time at the helm witnessed the strong emergence of an Irish core of Liam Brady, Pat Rice, Frank Stapleton, Pat Jennings, and David O’Leary which gave Arsenal a still-strong following amongst the Irish. While Neill’s time at the club was in the midst of the Liverpool dominance, he still managed to direct the club to three FA Cup finals in 1978, 79, 80 but only winning it in 79, when Alan Sunderland won the match in injury time to record a now-famous win. The 1979-80 season saw Arsenal play a record breaking 70 matches and reaching two finals, the FA Cup loss to West Ham and losing the finals in Europe to Valencia on penalties. The summer of 1980 saw Liam Brady leave for Juventus and apart from 1982-83, Arsenal continued to make the top four, but never looked like winning anything. The lost both Cup semi-finals that year and and Terry Neill struggled to manage the club, arguing with key players as a drinking culture immersed itself at Arsenal. After losing to Third Division Walsall in the League Cup, Neill was fired in Decemeber 1983 and replaced with Don Howe, under whom Arsenal would fare no better. And when Howe heard the board had approached Terry Venables (then at Barcelona) he resigned and Steve Burtenshaw was named caretaker while the club searched for a replacement. Alex Ferguson, then at Aberdeen in Scotland, was approached, but he rejected Arsenal and six month later would find himself at Manchester United.
In May 1986 former Arsenal player, George Graham was appointed manager of Arsenal. Graham would slowly sell off older players and promote from the youth team and was able to dictate a stronger sense of discipline at the club, something the previous managers had attempted and failed at. In Graham’s debut season, Arsenal was able to with the League Cup, coming from behind in the final against Liverpool with a double by Charlie Nichols. This was in the midst of a UEFA English ban for European competitions in relation to the Heysel disaster, and so Arsenal missed out on the 87-88 UEFA Cup.
The 87-88 campaign saw Arsenal lose the League Cup final to Luton Town, but Graham was building a squad that would continue to improve with their young defense coming together under captain Tony Adams, Lee Dixon, Steve Bould and Nigel Winterburn. This, buoyed by the terrific midfield of David Rocastle, Michael Thomas and Paul Merson and goal-scoring sensation Alan Smith, in 1989 Arsenal would finally win their first League title since 1971, and would do so in stunning fashion. Arsenal led the league since Christmas, but allowed Liverpool, who were going for the Double, to overtake them by losing to Derby County and drawing at home to Wimbeldon. The final match of the season was at Anfield and Arsenal were required to win by two goals in order to win the title. With 90 minutes gone, Arsenal were up 1-0 when this happened:
And Arsenal were League Champions. Arsenal would have to wait until the 1990-91 season to find success again, and had to do so despite losing two points after a on-field brawl with Manchester United at Old Trafford, and losing Tony Adams for four months when he was sent to prison for drunk driving in December that year. However, they only lost one league match the entire year, and won the title by seven points. After signing Ian Wright from Crystal Palace in 1991 and losing David Rocastle to Leeds United the year after, Arsenal became known as ‘Boring, boring Arsenal’ depending on their stout defense and the goal-scoring prowess of Wright to win games. The FA Premier League was then created for the 1992-93 season, in which Arsenal were one of the founding members, and became the first club to win the FA Cup and League Cup double. The following year Arsenal won their second European trophy, defeating Parma 1-0 in the Cup Winner’s Cup final in Copenhagen.
Arsenal were forced to sack George Graham February 1995 when it was found he had taken an illegal payment of a player. Bruce Rioch took over at Arsenal, who guided Arsenal to the Cup Winner’s Cup Final, but lost to Real Zaragoza from a 40 yarder in the 120 minute; a howler by David Seaman. The summer of 1995 saw him Rioch sign Dutchman Dennis Bergkamp, breaking the English transfer recorded at the time. He was sacked just before the 1996 season over a dispute about the transfer funds. Arsenal then made the audacious and obscure decision to hire Frenchman Arsene Wenger from Nagoya Grampus Eight in Japan to manage their club. Wenger changed the club, completely eliminating the drinking culture that was prevalent at the time, changing the diets and training methods of the players, and brought about a change in tactics. Wenger brought in unknown players such as Patrick Vieira, Nicolas Anelka, Emmanuel Petit and Marc Overmars in 1997 and with George Graham’s noturious defense, Wenger became the first foreign manager to win the 1997-98 League title. Arsenal won the Double that year, winning the FA Cup. Ian Wright left that summer, having broken Cliff Bastin’s goalscoring record, his tally at Arsenal ending at 185 goals. The next few years were trophy-barren at Arsenal, despite signing Freddie Ljungberg and Thierry Henry. The rivalry with Manchester United fired up 1998-99 however as Arsenal finished 2nd in the League to United, and lost the FA Cup semi-final replay in extra time to them as well. The next season Arsenal again finished second best to Manchester United, this time by 18 points, and lost the EUFA Cup final in 0-0 game that went to penalties in Copenhagen to Galatasaray. The 2000-01 season saw Arsenal finish 2nd yet again to Manchester United, and lost in the FA Cup to Liverpool; as well as losing on the ‘away goals rule’ in the Champions league quarter-finals to eventual finalist Valencia.
The 2001-02 season became memorable as Arsenal’s furious attacking side lead by Thierry Henry won the Double for a record-tying third time. Arsenal were the only club to score in every game of the League that season, and went unbeaten away from home. They defeated Manchester United in the FA Cup, before also beating Chelsea in the finals. The 2002-03 was notable when Arsenal became the first club in over 20 years to retain the FA Cup title when they defeated Southampton in the final, but lost out on the League title to United losing their final game of the season at home to Leeds. That Last match day defeat to Leeds would become Arsenal’s last loss for over a year, and the 2003-04 season saw the rise of the ‘Invincibles’ where they won 26 and drew 12 matches, finishing 11 points clear of Chelsea in second place. Preston North End in 1888-89 is the only other team to have ever completed such a feat.
The following season Arsenal extended their unbeaten run to 49 consecutive League matches, an English league football record, when they finally lost to Manchester United. They failed to win the title that year as the newly cash rich Chelsea finished 12 points ahead, but managed to win the FA Cup for their 3rd time in four years. The 2005-06 season was largely disappointing, and Arsenal barely managed to obtain fourth place and their Champions League spot when St. Totteringham’s day came on the very last match day when Sp*rs lost to West Ham and Arsenal won their last ever match at Highbury stadium over Wigan. In the Champions League however, Arsenal made it the Finals against Barcelona, but a silly red card to keeper Jens Lehmann early in the match had Arsenal desperately defend a 1-0 lead for most of the game, before two late goals by Barca took the title away. Arsenal completed the move from historic Highbury to the Emirates stadium July 2006. Highbury was limited to only 38,500 seats after standing was banned in English football, and with the club unable to expand the stadium and needing to increase revenue streams to compete with money-giant clubs like Chelsea and Manchester United, a move down the road to Ashburton Grove was made. To facilitate the move in a manner that did not destroy the club financially, Arsene Wenger was forced to sell off highly paid stars and transition the club with youngsters, while still managing to be highly competitive and keep the fans into the massive 60,000+ stadium. Since the move Arsenal have stayed in the Champions League, qualifying for the competition for 14 years in a row, and have remained competitive in the Premier league, but ultimately collapsing the final months of the campaigns. December 11, 2011 saw Arsenal play at home and marked Arsenal’s 125 year in existence, and Arsenal celebrated the occasion the only way they know how; with style and class. The great-great-grandson of Fred Beardsley, the man who sourced the Arsenal original kit, assisted Vic Akers with the club’s kits and was brought onto the pitch in the pre-game ceremony. Supporters’ Stories were installed on benches outside the Armoury. A sixpence was thrown by referee Howard Webb at kick-off. Inside the players’ tunnel, celebrations of the 5-3 over Chelsea, and Henri Lansbury Sp*rs goal have been included on the walls. Arsenal had the Royal Artillery and Orchestra playing outside the stadium. The 1970s greats Bob Wilson, Charlie George, Frank McLintock, John Radford and Terry Neill were all introduced onto the Emirates pitch, followed by David O’Leary, Paul Davis, George Graham, Alan Smith, Anders Limpar and Ian Wright. Members of the Invincibles then took to the pitch, Ray Parlour, Robert Pires, Jens Lehmann, Lee Dixon, Lauren and Thierry Henry showed up. The great-grandchildren of founder David Danskin carried the matchball to begin the game. They even ensured there was a cannon alongside side the pitch.
Perhaps the best part of the weekend was the Friday prior, when Arsenal unveiled the statues of Herbert Chapman, Tony Adams and Thierry Henry outside the Stadium. So many greats could have been chosen, but it’s difficult to argue with the man who revolutionized football in the 1930s, the winning-est club captain, and the Arsenal’s record goal-scorer.
May there be more greatness to come for the beloved and storied club.
FA Cup Winners (10) 1930 Beat Huddersfield Town 2-0 1936 Beat Sheffield United 1-0 1950 Beat Liverpool 2-0 1971 Beat Liverpool 2-1 1979 Beat Manchester United 3-2 1993 Beat Sheffield Wednesday 2-1 1998 Beat Newcastle United 2-0 2002 Beat Chelsea 2-0 2003 Beat Southampton 1-0 2005 Beat Manchester Utd 5-4 on penalties (after 0-0 draw) 2014 Beat Hull City 3-1 (After Extra Time 2-2)
League Cup Winners (2) 1987 Beat Liverpool 2-1 1993 Beat Sheffield Wednesday 2-1
European Nights 1970 European Fairs Cup winners beating Anderlecht of Belgium 4-3 on aggregate. 1980 Cup Winners� Cup finalists losing on penalties to Valencia of Spain in Brussels. 1994 Cup Winners� Cup winners beating Parma of Italy 1-0 in the final in Copenhagen. 1995 Cup Winners� Cup finalists losing 2-1 to Real Zaragoza of Spain after extra time in Paris. 2000 UEFA Cup finalists losing 4-1 on penalties to Galatasaray after a 0-0 draw and extra time in Copenhagen. 2006 UEFA Champions League finalists losing 2-1 to Barcelona of Spain in Paris.
Arsenal Ladies' Honours
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UEFA Women' Cup Winners 2007
National Premier League 1992/93, 1994/95, 1996/97, 2000/01, 2001/02, 2003/04, 2004/05, 2006/07
National League Cup 1992, 1993, 1994, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2005, 2007
WFA Cup 1993, 1995, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2004, 2007
FA Womens' Community Shield Winners (3+1 shared) 2000 (shared with Charlton Athletic), 2001, 2005, 2006
London County FA Women's Cup Winners (6) 1995, 1996, 1997, 2000, 2004, 2007 Beat Millwall 2-0
National League South 1991/92
London Senior Cup 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2004
Youth Honours
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FA Premier Youth League 1997/98
FA National Academy PLAY-OFF Final Under-17s: 1999/00 Under-19s: 2001/02
Btw, are we seriously gonna renew ABOU 'glassbody' DIABY's contract??
Suddenly this year , I feel it's time we let him go
He's been around too long doing nothing
Usually I will want him to stay thinking he will be playing again
But after seeing that he couldn't even sustain fitness after such a long time out due treatment , I'm starting to think that he's not worth the keep anymore
Suddenly this year , I feel it's time we let him go
He's been around too long doing nothing
Usually I will want him to stay thinking he will be playing again
But after seeing that he couldn't even sustain fitness after such a long time out due treatment , I'm starting to think that he's not worth the keep anymore
His salary not exactly cheap
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If he is fit, why not?
...... I think we all know the answer to the question.. He is never fit... I can't believe we've been paying his wages all these while...
He's been in Arsenal since 05/06 btw.
10 years in Arsenal and only managed to cap 180 appearances for Arsenal...
2011/12 = 5 appearances 2012/13 = 15 appearances 2013/14 = 1 appearances 2014/15 = 1 apperances so far. And likely to remain at that for a number more months..
In the past 4 seasons alone he only managed 22 appearances in all competitions and with only 1 assist contribution... That is just mind blowing that we still accommodate him at Arsenal..
I honestly wish we just let him go, even if he managed to recover in time for the remaining of this season, he is so fragile that he might/will pick up another injury not long after.. Won't be surprising as well since he is also 28 years old already and only getting older.
We are better off offering that position in the squad to someone else more deserving. Perhaps slot in a proper CDM with his vacancy?
This post has been edited by LordDenning: Dec 5 2014, 10:57 PM
Nacho Monreal may be out for several weeks having torn ankle ligaments and Arsenal are very low on numbers at the back. Kieran Gibbs is nursing a hip injury and Laurent Koscielny requires caution as he manages his inflamed achilles
Nacho Monreal may be out for several weeks having torn ankle ligaments and Arsenal are very low on numbers at the back. Kieran Gibbs is nursing a hip injury and Laurent Koscielny requires caution as he manages his inflamed achilles
Won't be surprised if suddenly Flamini in LB , Diaby in CB , Campbell in GK , Podolski ST
Nacho Monreal may be out for several weeks having torn ankle ligaments and Arsenal are very low on numbers at the back. Kieran Gibbs is nursing a hip injury and Laurent Koscielny requires caution as he manages his inflamed achilles
Flamini can be a utility lb. Debuchy is coming back so Chambers can move into CDM position. All good bruh. and then in the transfer window we can get schneiderlin, cramer or lars bender and also 1 decent CB as a backup to kosc-mert
agreed. he's been our favourite manU fan so far. very dedicated to posting in our thread. not sure about his main account tho. used to be a pertamax king now all of a suddent MIA since he got found out.
Wenger dont want to rotate, that is the problem.... ozil should not be pushed so hard after world cup. Alexis should be substituted on 70min, if we are leading. I am sure ox or Campbell is hard-working enough to do the defensive job.
Flamini can be a utility lb. Debuchy is coming back so Chambers can move into CDM position. All good bruh. and then in the transfer window we can get schneiderlin, cramer or lars bender and also 1 decent CB as a backup to kosc-mert
schneiderlin's team is at 3rd place atm oh... do u think he will switch club? o.O
schneiderlin's team is at 3rd place atm oh... do u think he will switch club? o.O
Ozil from R.Madrid, more prestige club in CL than us; Sanchez from Barca, also CL top elites than us. So, y not? Soton 3rd spot just 3 pts differ to us, and their current position is merely a false one, they been defeated against 3 out of last season top 4; Liv 1-2, M City 0-3 and us 0-1. Still have Chelsea waiting and season still long way, and now they been hit with injuries to their core players, they gonna stumble at ended of season like last season, like Everton, Spurs did over few last seasons.
Schneiderlin want CL, we have CL eventho it might be only 2 matches (last 16) b4 bow out this season like we always did. But we have better chances n resources than Soton. Even if Soton get CL next year, they dont have enough depth n financial to prepare seriously for that. They'll suffer both European n domestic, just like Liv this season.
Ozil from R.Madrid, more prestige club in CL than us; Sanchez from Barca, also CL top elites than us. So, y not? Soton 3rd spot just 3 pts differ to us, and their current position is merely a false one, they been defeated against 3 out of last season top 4; Liv 1-2, M City 0-3 and us 0-1. Still have Chelsea waiting and season still long way, and now they been hit with injuries to their core players, they gonna stumble at ended of season like last season, like Everton, Spurs did over few last seasons.
Schneiderlin want CL, we have CL eventho it might be only 2 matches (last 16) b4 bow out this season like we always did. But we have better chances n resources than Soton. Even if Soton get CL next year, they dont have enough depth n financial to prepare seriously for that. They'll suffer both European n domestic, just like Liv this season.
Actually, if u think about it, we've beaten none of Everton Tottenham manu man city and chelsea
Alexis opened the scoring early on then Crouch equalized with a beastly header. As you can see Ramsey won the game late in the match.
Highlights of the game including Koscielny and Chambers making important interceptions, Santi hitting the post twice and hitting the ball inches wide with the goal open, Giroud hitting the cross bar with a long range effort, and Shawcross getting a yellow card for a rough tackle on Santi.
Actually, if u think about it, we've beaten none of Everton Tottenham manu man city and chelsea
Still we r only 3pts below them. Not that bad anyway. Quater end of season we shldn't doubt Wenger's quality to turn d team for CL spot. Its proven for almost 2 decades now. If its were bout title battle then different story.
Alexis opened the scoring early on then Crouch equalized with a beastly header. As you can see Ramsey won the game late in the match.
Highlights of the game including Koscielny and Chambers making important interceptions, Santi hitting the post twice and hitting the ball inches wide with the goal open, Giroud hitting the cross bar with a long range effort, and Shawcross getting a yellow card for a rough tackle on Santi.
Alexis opened the scoring early on then Crouch equalized with a beastly header. As you can see Ramsey won the game late in the match.
Highlights of the game including Koscielny and Chambers making important interceptions, Santi hitting the post twice and hitting the ball inches wide with the goal open, Giroud hitting the cross bar with a long range effort, and Shawcross getting a yellow card for a rough tackle on Santi.
But can Alexis do it on a cold rainy night in Stoke? You bet he can! haha
This post has been edited by LordDenning: Dec 6 2014, 05:17 PM
Alexis opened the scoring early on then Crouch equalized with a beastly header. As you can see Ramsey won the game late in the match.
Highlights of the game including Koscielny and Chambers making important interceptions, Santi hitting the post twice and hitting the ball inches wide with the goal open, Giroud hitting the cross bar with a long range effort, and Shawcross getting a yellow card for a rough tackle on Santi.
I demand that u do this simulation and match analysis every match lol.
90 min +5: Ivanovic has a rake from 30 yards. The ball flies roughly 30 yards over the bar, and wide left to boot. Alnwick takes an age over his goal kick. Mourinho really isn’t happy with this carry-on. He’s audacious, you’ve got to give him that
They suffocated our midfield. Center area damn pack. Not easy to start uli2 usap2. With our players like to slow2 build attack, less chance to open up space n their defense.
main dgn team yg physical play, boleh try hold ball + let them come near challenge.. sure loss footing + epl ref standard buat bodo.. mmg bodo..3 dah..
main dgn team yg physical play, boleh try hold ball + let them come near challenge.. sure loss footing + epl ref standard buat bodo.. mmg bodo..3 dah..
Ah, i waited but nothing happens. Its okay bro, I guess just watch in my ipad.
Its really is a pain to watch right now. But I kinda hope there is some magic in the second half for Gunners. Its like they can't do any worse edy...so hopefully they'll just do something different.
I think we gunners are too damn forgiving. they loose one game and then win one game back..build the damn hype again about forms....then start loosing like this again.
who to blame? you have the fans to be blamed as we are too forgiving
this isnt bout refereeing to arsenal game only. its bout generalize bout epl ref standard, in all matches. If in La Liga or UCL, all this kind epl matches gonna generate lots of yellows n reds every match.
Plastic arsenal fans bodo. Wenger bring so much changes to the club you wanna kick him out? Bite the hand that feeds you?!? Diam la bukan cam London-born pon!
Even the most positive arsenal fans can't even defend the manager in this kind of situation I think. We are clueless all over the pitch. This is just a fcking stoke ffs
Even the most positive arsenal fans can't even defend the manager in this kind of situation I think. We are clueless all over the pitch. This is just a fcking stoke ffs
this is bpl la. not bundesliga.
and stoke at brittania has been arsenal's boogey team since 3 years ago? cmon.
This post has been edited by roti-terbakar: Dec 7 2014, 12:04 AM
Well, it was a good comeback. But alas, our team aren't good enough to fight for the league. Feels like there is some sort of malaise infecting our players.
The comeback was on its way with the goal disallowed, the penalty, the second goal... until Chambers got sent off. That derailed the momentum and Arsenal was made to pay for the lack of coherent fight in the first half.
...that is, if you ignore the first half when Arsenal was outplayed by Stoke. Don't let the "fightback" cloud your eyes, Arsenal's problems are shown in first 45 minutes.
Is it any consolation that Ramsey scored an awesome goal from a difficult angle? I do hope our players will improve after this game. Can't say much about our beloved manager. Its not like we the fans can do anything to remove him. Today our team are streched thin with a lot of missing players. But even with our best 11 on the pitch, Stoke came to us with a plan of their own. They aren't even the old Stoke we used to hate. But still losing to them does open up more of our weakness, especially our strategy.
Alexis needs a holy hell good rest. He works hard but tonight the whole Stoke team was taking him down and shooting down non stop every time he touched the ball.
Is it any consolation that Ramsey scored an awesome goal from a difficult angle? I do hope our players will improve after this game. Can't say much about our beloved manager. Its not like we the fans can do anything to remove him. Today our team are streched thin with a lot of missing players. But even with our best 11 on the pitch, Stoke came to us with a plan of their own. They aren't even the old Stoke we used to hate. But still losing to them does open up more of our weakness, especially our strategy.
if we have an option, if one requirement to remove AW is to sacrify next year champion league, i believe a lot of us will do thatl.
...that is, if you ignore the first half when Arsenal was outplayed by Stoke. Don't let the "fightback" cloud your eyes, Arsenal's problems are shown in first 45 minutes.
1st minute.. the top 10 fastest goal in this season. shame
if we have an option, if one requirement to remove AW is to sacrify next year champion league, i believe a lot of us will do thatl.
Yea, I know how you feel.
I don't think us fans have any space in the Arsenal Annual General Meeting. Maybe fans can voice such issue at the Arsenal Supporters' Trust. http://www.arsenaltrust.org/
Positives: -Santi took the ball from Sanchez during penalty. He has something to prove, which is good to see. Keep the fighting spirit. -Ramsey scored with a good goal as well. A goal is bound to happen if you keep trying to shoot like that, but decision making has to be good. Know when to do it, when not to; which needs improvement. But overall decent performance today, esp in that deep holding role.. -Ox, outstanding as usual, those runs he make into the box with his pace & strength. -Sanchez, god damn Sanchez. Even if his play was sloppy today but still, that amount of effort put in every match you can't even fault him. -Welbeck when came on, we played with better tempo.
Negatives: Apart from select players above, the whole team was rubbish. Particularly, Giroud and Per. Giroud kept losing the ball & sloppy passes despite him being so good at that. Not his day maybe.. Per oh Per. No Koscielny to cover his ass, and his weakness is for all to see. too many more to list down, scared cant control and rage smash pc.
But most importantly, just fk off already Wenger. It's a disgrace the level the club is at right now (and countless seasons before this). Waiting for those InWengerWeTrust fellas to see what they will come up with next to defend him.
This post has been edited by LordDenning: Dec 7 2014, 01:23 AM
Actually kalau not for the fourth goal disallowed for no reason, kita takkan ada chance nak fight back pun
Second half we still conceded a goal altho it didn't count
This team is so crappy at the moment
Yes we don't have our best player back cow they injured
But come on man, u don't go and play like the way Ur team play as if the best player is there
If best player is not there, at least change some gameplay and avoid weaknesses exposed la
Sigh. Same old arsenal.
And to be fair, I believe red on chambers was fair. He tugged bojan. On another day we would have asked for a card if our player Kena like that. But I believe shameful challenge by adam is a straight red. It's a disgrace to play such rugby-like foul. It's not even a professional foul.
We are now officially same level as Tottenham, Everton, liverpool
Not a champion material at all
This post has been edited by tkh_1001: Dec 7 2014, 01:20 AM
Ok sure because you really need it for long term. Btw u have a funnytone. Hehe
Its ok, I still sayang my team. Coaches and players come and go right?
QUOTE(ray123 @ Dec 7 2014, 01:18 AM)
Well, if you guys can't remove Wenger then at least get new defensive coach.
I remember last time Steve Bould joined us, he was hailed as the best.
QUOTE(LordDenning @ Dec 7 2014, 01:18 AM)
*clears mind from all the bullshit seen today*
Positives: -Santi took the ball from Sanchez during penalty. He has something to prove, which is good to see. Keep the fighting spirit. -Ramsey scored with a good goal as well. A goal is bound to happen if you keep trying to shoot like that, but decision making has to be good. Know when to do it, when not to; which needs improvement. But overall decent performance today, esp in that deep holding role.. -Ox, outstanding as usual, those runs he make into the box with his pace & strength. -Sanchez, god damn Sanchez. Even if his play was sloppy today but still, that amount of effort put in every match you can't even fault him. -Welbeck when came on, we played with better tempo.
Negatives: Apart from select players above, the whole team was rubbish. Particularly, Giroud and Per. Giroud kept losing the ball & sloppy passes despite him being so good at that. Not his day maybe.. Per oh Per. No Koscielny to cover his ass, and his weakness is for all to see. too many more to list down, scared cant control and rage smash pc.
But most importantly, just fk off already Wenger. It's a disgrace the level the club is at right now (and countless seasons before this). Waiting for those InWengerWeTrust fellas to see what they will come up with next to defend him.
From d textbook, referee is meant to keep it in fairness. But as football competitions has move on from being sporting venue to a business model of entertainment product, ref need to play part of it to "protect" the sales. EPL is top popular product d whole world watching, with many legal n illegal betting companies/syndicates around. They said its clean. I dont buy it, its probably being "cleaned".
But tonite its not solely on ref. The team were "schoolboy"ed in 1st half. Injuries n short of depth available r just an excuse. Wenger is so stubborn with his primitive tactics and his players not using the brain, like it was d 1st time playing against "elbow team". Those 1st half approaches while having d ball was like "hey, come near me n give me ur elbow".
Rubbish performance. Let Stoke outplayed us during first half. It was Danny who made the difference when he came on. Charlie Adam should have been booked a straight red for his foul against Sanchez. Come on man, no way that is a yellow. Season after seasons, Wenger still cannot find a solution against Stoke in Britannia. Team with no proper physical challenge in EPL is never good.
How come Utd can control them so good and we were controlled by them. Bojan was man of the match I felt. Should have joined Arsenal, that's the missing left wing we have been missed so far.
Match observation, Alexis chemistry with the team is not there, he likes to first touch pass which most of them miss his team mates. Santi tried hard, but again wasted a lot of chances.
Overall issues from the match, noticed players din really know how to run their positions to attract Stoke defenders resulting all of them using man wall in penalty box.
The Chambers red card is the softest red card i seen in the EPL in a very long time. Don't know why it had to happen to us??? Definitely would have gotten a draw with 11 players...
Overall issues from the match, noticed players din really know how to run their positions to attract Stoke defenders resulting all of them using man wall in penalty box.
I find this quite true. Has been quite often in a lot of matches i see two players running/occupying the same place
From d textbook, referee is meant to keep it in fairness. But as football competitions has move on from being sporting venue to a business model of entertainment product, ref need to play part of it to "protect" the sales. EPL is top popular product d whole world watching, with many legal n illegal betting companies/syndicates around. They said its clean. I dont buy it, its probably being "cleaned".
But tonite its not solely on ref. The team were "schoolboy"ed in 1st half. Injuries n short of depth available r just an excuse. Wenger is so stubborn with his primitive tactics and his players not using the brain, like it was d 1st time playing against "elbow team". Those 1st half approaches while having d ball was like "hey, come near me n give me ur elbow".
actually I didnt mean to blame the ref. my remarks just because our history with him were not so good. Tbh Chambers deserved to be sent off. No question. He proved that he is inexperience despite all the good things we saw from him. He always do that. It is no coincidence that he collected the most yellow card in our team. Even beat Flamini
What I hate most about our team defensively is how they allow the cross into the box. The cross for the second goal shouldn't be allowed. Gibbs was so close to Winters but he didn't pressure the guy. He just let him cross. Not even tried to stop the cross with his leg. This happened so many times even before the current season. The job were always half done when preventing a cross.
I don't get how people are still saying wenger out in the middle of the season. so you want wenger to leave in december and then what ? have an interim manager? get behind the team lah dulu, pastu wait until the end of the season and judge, kalau masih buruk baru wenger out lah. then we can find a new manager (but highly unlikely). but i hope this wengerout movement is going to make him change his tactics and not be so naive.
I don't get how people are still saying wenger out in the middle of the season. so you want wenger to leave in december and then what ? have an interim manager? get behind the team lah dulu, pastu wait until the end of the season and judge, kalau masih buruk baru wenger out lah. then we can find a new manager (but highly unlikely). but i hope this wengerout movement is going to make him change his tactics and not be so naive.
I am in the WengerOut camp, BUT I want him to leave at the end of the season, not now. Enough is enough, time to say our goodbyes and part ways, Mr. Wenger. Of course I will never ever forget what he has brought and done for our club all these years.
I wanted him to leave since winning the FA cup last season because IMO it was the only rational thing to do, bring glory to the club one last time and retire with pride. But no, instead he got a 3 year contract extension and now the club is in such state, him leaving would only put a bad taste in AFC's glorious history. But sooner or later, it has to be done. Since I don't see a way or any way Wenger could adapt and change his philosophies on football, so I don't think another 2 seasons with him will bring any/much benefits to us, Arsenal Football Club.
Btw, before the start of this season, Wenger said our aim was to challenge for the title this season. and now, he said our aim is to secure top 4 in the league. See that? Same old, same old.
I am in the WengerOut camp, BUT I want him to leave at the end of the season, not now. Enough is enough, time to say our goodbyes and part ways, Mr. Wenger. Of course I will never ever forget what he has brought and done for our club all these years.
I wanted him to leave since winning the FA cup last season because IMO it was the only rational thing to do, bring glory to the club one last time and retire with pride. But no, instead he got a 3 year contract extension and now the club is in such state, him leaving would only put a bad taste in AFC's glorious history. But sooner or later, it has to be done. Since I don't see a way or any way Wenger could adapt and change his philosophies on football, so I don't think another 2 seasons with him will bring any/much benefits to us, Arsenal Football Club.
Btw, before the start of this season, Wenger said our aim was to challenge for the title this season. and now, he said our aim is to secure top 4 in the league. See that? Same old, same old.
I absolutely agree with your sentiments but please, timing is key. We have to get behind the team while the season is going on and that includes Wenger.
I have a question to ask you, do you have the solution to what we should do once we've gotten rid of wenger ?
I absolutely agree with your sentiments but please, timing is key. We have to get behind the team while the season is going on and that includes Wenger.
I have a question to ask you, do you have the solution to what we should do once we've gotten rid of wenger ?
It depends on who's available and willing to come to Arsenal as well. If Klopp, Pep or whoever else is interested for the job, I would say why not? But of course, it all depends if a good manager wants to come in the first place. That is why its best to wait till the season ends before doing a change in management. At least get to see if there is any proven managers in the market at the end of the season.
I wouldn't call it a solution, because no one can be sure if the next appointed manager after Wenger could solve the problems. (Moyes at MU) but at least, we would see a change. Is the change necessarily good? Nobody knows until we actually go through the changes first. But what is certain is, it isn't necessarily bad. Changes would have to occur sooner or later anyway in order for our club to progress, so why not now than later.(by now, I mean when the season ends of course)
Let me ask you back a question then. Are you not tired of the same old thing that has been going on for almost 10 years now with whatever Wenger's policies is at the club?
-start of every new season, aim to challenge for the title. By the middle of the season, objectives changed to trying to secure a top4 spot in the league. -reluctance to spend $ to improve key departments within the squad, primarily the defensive roles. Come on, we only have 2 CORE CB's in our club and the rest are just wannabes. Chambers came in as a RB, but is moved to play as a CB, albeit him being better there as evident in games but still lack the necessary experience to command the defence appropriately. Monreal a LB has been slotting in multiple times as a CB? Seriously? Is this the works of a 'top club'? -zonal marking during set pieces, enough said. -further to top that, we lack a specialist CDM or someone who can boss and command the midfield area to protect our already vulnerable CB's. -the inability to retain top top players, while not solely Wenger's fault, but as a manager, surely he has to do a better job than to just allow them to leave. -his tactics and strategy is just very stale and old to me. (starting 11 choices, substitution choices, poor timing of substitutions and players he bring on/take off) -a general reluctance to change and adapt to current footballing ways. Still sticking to his philosophies of what he deems 'beautiful football' or 'the way football should be played', which just doesnt work any more these days.
I am in the WengerOut camp, BUT I want him to leave at the end of the season, not now.
you will regret..in the end of the season if arsenal achieve something we will forget about 'wengerout'..same thing every season..i think if wenger buy one or two good player this january 'wengerout' movement will faded quickly..hehehe
I absolutely agree with your sentiments but please, timing is key. We have to get behind the team while the season is going on and that includes Wenger.
I have a question to ask you, do you have the solution to what we should do once we've gotten rid of wenger ?
tbh, that question should be answered by the club. the power is not in the hand of the fans.
you will regret..in the end of the season if arsenal achieve something we will forget about 'wengerout'..same thing every season..i think if wenger buy one or two good player this january 'wengerout' movement will faded quickly..hehehe
When we won the FA Cup, I (and many more felt the same way) wanted Wenger to retire with his pride in tact. At least on a good memory after serving the club for so long.
So, NO. Not everyone will be WengerIN even if we win something or buy some big players.
When we won the FA Cup, I (and many more felt the same way) wanted Wenger to retire with his pride in tact. At least on a good memory after serving the club for so long.
So, NO. Not everyone will be WengerIN even if we win something or buy some big players.
arsenal board definitely WengerIN..not much pressure from the board except comment from usmanov..but i agreed he should retire or maybe move to other position in arsenal management and choose his successor..
tbh, that question should be answered by the club. the power is not in the hand of the fans.
but the fans will have a say in deciding manager's fate in a club. imagine an empty stadium on a match day for example.
QUOTE(LordDenning @ Dec 8 2014, 09:55 AM)
When we won the FA Cup, I (and many more felt the same way) wanted Wenger to retire with his pride in tact. At least on a good memory after serving the club for so long.
So, NO. Not everyone will be WengerIN even if we win something or buy some big players.
This. AW shuda chose to retire for good after that facup victory. he's been here for quite some time now, and now he said to give him 3 more years to win the bpl trophy by 2017? so wat has he been doing between the last time ur team won the bpl trophy until today?
but the fans will have a say in deciding manager's fate in a club. imagine an empty stadium on a match day for example. This. AW shuda chose to retire for good after that facup victory. he's been here for quite some time now, and now he said to give him 3 more years to win the bpl trophy by 2017? so wat has he been doing between the last time ur team won the bpl trophy until today?
wenger still has it in him to win the league, dont forget we were top of the league for the longest time last season, until we got ravaged by injuries. problem is he seems to not care that we will almost never have a fully fit squad, will run players down to the ground due to no rotation. i mean why do we even have podolski rosicky and campbell if he's not going to give them as rotation players?
i'm not sure i want him out, he can still win the league, but something's gotta change with the transfers and injuries.
really bad performance from BFG..he was nowhere near his position when stoke score 1st goal..just watching crossing to krkic for stoke 2nd goal..not marking crouch when krkic take a corner kick and walter got his goal..
really bad performance from BFG..he was nowhere near his position when stoke score 1st goal..just watching crossing to krkic for stoke 2nd goal..not marking crouch when krkic take a corner kick and walter got his goal..
BFG without Koscielny is like he lost his left leg or something.
And Arsenal without Bosscielny is basically no defense
BFG without Koscielny is like he lost his left leg or something.
And Arsenal without Bosscielny is basically no defense
Giroud without welbeck also not looking good, when welbeck and giroud both in the pitch, someone is going front, so giroud got som one to pass his ball upfront, when welbeck not in all the player are behind giroud. SO as well as welbeck he need someone like giroud to be infront to hold or pass ball to him, thats why our attack is better when giroud and welbeck are both in the pitch.
the players are like they are born together. Chemistry ~? looking forward next match~COYG~!!
This post has been edited by Ah KeaT: Dec 8 2014, 12:50 PM
And now because of some idiots, the entire fanbase became a laughing stock. For all what he has done to the club, I can't even think what makes him deserve to get such abuses. Ffs some so called supporters, tak tau bersyukur lgsung.
And now because of some idiots, the entire fanbase became a laughing stock. For all what he has done to the club, I can't even think what makes him deserve to get such abuses. Ffs some so called supporters, tak tau bersyukur lgsung.
Forget about the past. It's history.
Now tell us what joy is he going to give to the club & fans in the next 1 year? Are you confident the team will win trophy this season?
you will regret..in the end of the season if arsenal achieve something we will forget about 'wengerout'..same thing every season..i think if wenger buy one or two good player this january 'wengerout' movement will faded quickly..hehehe
i'm with the WengerOUT. Actually it's already been 2 years and when we actually won the FA i think that is the best time for Wenger to leave.
He needs new motivation. He have no clue what he wants to do now, let alone manage the team. His choices is poor and his tactical getting worse year by year.
Most of the match last season is won by pure luck, and I bet Welbeck will be another Bendtner without correct guidance. He seriously needs to stop shifting player from their favored position.
Our young player lacks mental strength. It was acceptable few years back, when we lack older player. But now we have a few, its time to use their experience to lead the team on the field. Not leaving the young one looking for what to do as starting eleven.
Look what Man U accomplished when Giggs and Scholes still playing. Now that their core is gone, actually this year is a good time for Arsenal to shine. With strong additional like Sanchez. But no, mr Wenger wants to keep his philosophy. I really think it's time for him to go.
All the memories and achievement is sweet. But it is time. Nothing can be accomplished if he did not change. We all know he wont change his philosophy. Keep on passing till the end of the day. Keep the scorers warming the bench.
Now tell us what joy is he going to give to the club & fans in the next 1 year? Are you confident the team will win trophy this season?
Aiya, don't start with all these bullshit so called healthy discussion please. Every season you predicted we will end up out of top 4 or relegated.
FA Cup last season? I bet you didn't saw that coming.
Stay out of it and enjoy your only prediction once a week. TBH, I'm starting to enjoy your prediction when you say Arsenal is going to lose. Keep up the good job.
i'm with the WengerOUT. Actually it's already been 2 years and when we actually won the FA i think that is the best time for Wenger to leave.
He needs new motivation. He have no clue what he wants to do now, let alone manage the team. His choices is poor and his tactical getting worse year by year.
agreed..his selection of players really bad..the result show everything but he still use same formation and tactics..wenger can blame injuries but its like every season arsenal have this problem.. flamini got fouled and we get penalty but i don't like our CM(wenger said he don't need DM) spend much time in D section..so i think we have very bad midfield this season that can't create a chances and can't stop the opponent attack.
Now tell us what joy is he going to give to the club & fans in the next 1 year? Are you confident the team will win trophy this season?
What?! How about our FA Cup success just 7 months ago? Is that considered as a history already? You must have a very short-term memory then.
QUOTE(maraippo @ Dec 8 2014, 02:32 PM)
i'm with the WengerOUT. Actually it's already been 2 years and when we actually won the FA i think that is the best time for Wenger to leave.
He needs new motivation. He have no clue what he wants to do now, let alone manage the team. His choices is poor and his tactical getting worse year by year.
Most of the match last season is won by pure luck, and I bet Welbeck will be another Bendtner without correct guidance. He seriously needs to stop shifting player from their favored position.
Our young player lacks mental strength. It was acceptable few years back, when we lack older player. But now we have a few, its time to use their experience to lead the team on the field. Not leaving the young one looking for what to do as starting eleven.
Look what Man U accomplished when Giggs and Scholes still playing. Now that their core is gone, actually this year is a good time for Arsenal to shine. With strong additional like Sanchez. But no, mr Wenger wants to keep his philosophy. I really think it's time for him to go.
All the memories and achievement is sweet. But it is time. Nothing can be accomplished if he did not change. We all know he wont change his philosophy. Keep on passing till the end of the day. Keep the scorers warming the bench.
This is what's wrong with fans nowadays. Every win for them is a fluke, a pure luck. While every lost is a crisis. Getting really tired of this.
Winning the FA cup should be seen as a stepping stone for the club. Not as an ideal time for the manager to fcuk off. I don't want him to leave just after our club about to enter a new era. An era where we finally have the financial power to compete with the big boys.
Don't you think the man who responsible for putting our club to where it is today, deserves a chance to spend the money, to build his team? The first year where he actually got money to burn, he brought us Ozil. And in that year we eventually ended our trophy drought. And this season, we have Sanchez. And we already see his class.
Even Casa's beloved manager, Mourinho, also said that he need 2 year to build a team that is capable to win the BPL. And that for a club with unlimited fund, mind you.
I'm not saying Wenger is untouchable, as some of his actions are questionable and merit a critic. But what I'm trying to say is why don't we give him a chance. Let him honor his contract. Let him spend the money to get the players he wants. The day of wanting Hazard but getting Gervinho, waiting a year just to get Chamakh for a free, and playing Silvestre as CB, has past.
And I have problem to comprehend your last 2 points - about Scholes and Giggs, and about the scorer on the bench. If you have time, please elaborate.
QUOTE(IsoZ @ Dec 8 2014, 02:44 PM)
Aiya, don't start with all these bullshit so called healthy discussion please. Every season you predicted we will end up out of top 4 or relegated.
FA Cup last season? I bet you didn't saw that coming.
Stay out of it and enjoy your only prediction once a week. TBH, I'm starting to enjoy your prediction when you say Arsenal is going to lose. Keep up the good job.
For most of them, that FA cup win is never happen. Or maybe they're just to arrogant to admit that Wenger has finally winning something with his clueless tactics.
Aiya, don't start with all these bullshit so called healthy discussion please. Every season you predicted we will end up out of top 4 or relegated.
FA Cup last season? I bet you didn't saw that coming.
Stay out of it and enjoy your only prediction once a week. TBH, I'm starting to enjoy your prediction when you say Arsenal is going to lose. Keep up the good job.
Fans are celebrating for the wrong things:
- 4th place - Consecutive qualification for CL - Balanced books - Beating Spurs - Qualifying always for the round of 16
Now while those records are good to have it cant mask the fact that the club has failed to progress past the above checkpoints for years now. Now now, I know Arsenal won the FA cup last season, but i see that as a one off. If one can remember, Arsenal struggled to even see off an opponent that hardly scream top opponent in that cup final. Fans should always remember. You support the club and want whats best for the club and not a certain individual. 10 years ago Arsene was good for Arsenal now unfortunately he is not. Yes, football is a cruel business. The fact that he is given so so so many years to change his ways, learn from his mistakes is already a reward for his past glories. Fans have already shown alot of gratitude and appreciation for him by always sticking by his side during those dark years. But in everything, there is a limit. Just like a rose, no matter how red it is.. it will fade away one day and sadly to say the same can be said of Wenger now.
Hold on, just because a few losses and you people are turning against Wenger? Well, its not a few losses. Its who you lost to and how you lost and this has been happening not just for a few weeks or months but for years already. After losses were there improvements or changes or mistakes being corrected? Well, not exactly. An odd one or two win against Dortmund or Villa for all that matter does not count. You need continuity and consistency and not just the odd one or two games where the team performed and then its back to the same old nonsense.
Fans should always remember, you support Arsenal and not Arsene Wenger. You want whats best for the club and Arsene unfortunately is no longer good for Arsenal. Changing a new manager will not improve the situation or might make things worse some say? Well, you never change you never know. Changing to a new manager the club at least stand some chance to move forward. With Arsene still around, there will be zero chance. You do the math.
This post has been edited by theprobe: Dec 8 2014, 04:52 PM
older player can guide player la bro. see scholes n giggs last time still playing, the man u player can play as a team although they all are just decent players.
we on the other hand, all seniors have left. leaving rosicky and flamini. wenger should just blend flamini, rosicky and podolski in the mix to build up the creativity and push forward.
the teams also full of passers instead of scorers. the more the better. in the past, our midfield is full of creative players. center, left and right.
nowadays we only have cazorla, rosicky and ozil who always play out of their favored position becos wenger told them to. we have player who are natural at left and right, but wenger chose to experiment with his players because he is a "professor" and he is a "genius".
Its ok when in the past he plays using kids, and experimenting is good for their development. but playing with established players, it is plug n play. Play them where they play best. not switching them around.
and you talking about chances...we are the most patience fan among others. We understand the situation when the club have no money. But when we do and wenger don't want to spend, it really frustrating. Some of fan favourite went to other club for cheap.
if only wenger accepted fabregas just like he is willing to accept flamini, half of current arsenal problem might've been solved. he is proven, experienced, and just like flamini - plug n play. he'll suite right in.
- 4th place - Consecutive qualification for CL - Balanced books - Beating Spurs - Qualifying always for the round of 16
Now while those records are good to have it cant mask the fact that the club has failed to progress past the above checkpoints for years now. Now now, I know Arsenal won the FA cup last season, but i see that as a one off. If one can remember, Arsenal struggled to even see off an opponent that hardly scream top opponent in that cup final. Fans should always remember. You support the club and want whats best for the club and not a certain individual. 10 years ago Arsene was good for Arsenal now unfortunately he is not. Yes, football is a cruel business. The fact that he is given so so so many years to change his ways, learn from his mistakes is already a reward for his past glories. Fans have already shown alot of gratitude and appreciation for him by always sticking by his side during those dark years. But in everything, there is a limit. Just like a rose, no matter how red it is.. it will fade away one day and sadly to say the same can be said of Wenger now.
Hold on, just because a few losses and you people are turning against Wenger? Well, its not a few losses. Its who you lost to and how you lost and this has been happening not just for a few weeks or months but for years already. After losses were there improvements or changes or mistakes being corrected? Well, not exactly. An odd one or two win against Dortmund or Villa for all that matter does not count. You need continuity and consistency and not just the odd one or two games where the team performed and then its back to the same old nonsense.
Fans should always remember, you support Arsenal and not Arsene Wenger. You want whats best for the club and Arsene unfortunately is no longer good for Arsenal. Changing a new manager will not improve the situation or might make things worse some say? Well, you never change you never know. Changing to a new manager the club at least stand some chance to move forward. With Arsene still around, there will be zero chance. You do the math.
I'll just leave this here. I wouldn't be able to say it better myself. Hats off to you.
All become Champion Manager already. Giving all the good points and saying this to someone that really have done wonders for the club.
My advice, just hold it all in till the end of the season. Then when we are still shitty or worse come the end of the season, vent everything out. There can only be 1 champion every year people! Everyone acting like they own the club. Jersey Ori pon x sure beli ke tak.
I am in the WengerIn camp. For him to just build the team(and club mind you) and his legacy and leave it after it starts to reap benefits? Who in their right mind will do that!
And to those moaning and b****ing about him not buying ex players, just move on already! It has been half a season already!
And quoting Raizo7
Oh la la ~
It's that time of the year again. Where all the long posts flooding the thread...
All become Champion Manager already. Giving all the good points and saying this to someone that really have done wonders for the club.
My advice, just hold it all in till the end of the season. Then when we are still shitty or worse come the end of the season, vent everything out. There can only be 1 champion every year people! Everyone acting like they own the club. Jersey Ori pon x sure beli ke tak.
I am in the WengerIn camp. For him to just build the team(and club mind you) and his legacy and leave it after it starts to reap benefits? Who in their right mind will do that!
And to those moaning and b****ing about him not buying ex players, just move on already! It has been half a season already!
And quoting Raizo7
Oh la la ~
It's that time of the year again. Where all the long posts flooding the thread...
All become Champion Manager already. Giving all the good points and saying this to someone that really have done wonders for the club.
My advice, just hold it all in till the end of the season. Then when we are still shitty or worse come the end of the season, vent everything out. There can only be 1 champion every year people! Everyone acting like they own the club. Jersey Ori pon x sure beli ke tak.
I am in the WengerIn camp. For him to just build the team(and club mind you) and his legacy and leave it after it starts to reap benefits? Who in their right mind will do that!
And to those moaning and b****ing about him not buying ex players, just move on already! It has been half a season already!
And quoting Raizo7
Oh la la ~
It's that time of the year again. Where all the long posts flooding the thread...
Yes done wonders. Hats off to him but that was before EPL flooded with oil money and become more competitive. He's had good philosophy but stubborn at certain areas as well. He no longer suitable to bring arsenal to the next level. He should move to manage other areas of the club instead or retire in glory (probably due to what he had done for the club. Not glory based on results. It's forgotten long ago)
Hold it for another season to witness his stubbornness? Which song are you referring. There a lot of repeating there. Anyway, he had signed 3 years contract so all we can do is sulked up/hope for the best/pray other teams have more injury problemsetc. I'm don't have shares in afc but I have jerseys from 2004 till 2013. Didn't get them this year .... Yet. Probably u had more since u asked.
He built his legacy long ago and shud be reaping the benefits years ago. But nope. Key players at key positions leaving season after season and mediocre players come in/or none to replace. Probably he didn't c the problem with his stubbornness yet because if he do, he'll be deemed selfish.
It's the whole season we are taking about and it's a fact he didn't capitalize on key ex players wanting to come back again due to what? Ego? Stubbornness? Better not say tactics because its obvious he screw it so hard currently and had to admit in other ways. We analyze the performance by season and not month to month but maybe Malaysians shud do what Malaysians do best... We Cepat lupa... Simply moved on and the fella gets away.
Sorry for the short post.
This post has been edited by Vinci777: Dec 8 2014, 09:27 PM
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"Perhaps those who have lost the faith need a reminder of what Wenger has brought to Arsenal since his arrival as a relative unknown, hired by vice-chairman David Dein in 1996.
Usually playing sweet football, Wenger has delivered three Premier League titles including the remarkable "Invicibles" season of 2003-04 (ask Jose Mourinho and Chelsea how hard it is to stay unbeaten). The 65-year-old Frenchman has also won the FA Cup five times, taken his team to a Champions League final in 2006 and reached the knockout stage of that competition in every one of the last 15 seasons (ask Manchester City if you think that is a formality.).
Arsenal have never finished outside the top four during Wenger's reign."
What?! How about our FA Cup success just 7 months ago? Is that considered as a history already? You must have a very short-term memory then. This is what's wrong with fans nowadays. Every win for them is a fluke, a pure luck. While every lost is a crisis. Getting really tired of this.
Winning the FA cup should be seen as a stepping stone for the club. Not as an ideal time for the manager to fcuk off. I don't want him to leave just after our club about to enter a new era. An era where we finally have the financial power to compete with the big boys.
Don't you think the man who responsible for putting our club to where it is today, deserves a chance to spend the money, to build his team? The first year where he actually got money to burn, he brought us Ozil. And in that year we eventually ended our trophy drought. And this season, we have Sanchez. And we already see his class.
Even Casa's beloved manager, Mourinho, also said that he need 2 year to build a team that is capable to win the BPL. And that for a club with unlimited fund, mind you.
I'm not saying Wenger is untouchable, as some of his actions are questionable and merit a critic. But what I'm trying to say is why don't we give him a chance. Let him honor his contract. Let him spend the money to get the players he wants. The day of wanting Hazard but getting Gervinho, waiting a year just to get Chamakh for a free, and playing Silvestre as CB, has past.
And I have problem to comprehend your last 2 points - about Scholes and Giggs, and about the scorer on the bench. If you have time, please elaborate. For most of them, that FA cup win is never happen. Or maybe they're just to arrogant to admit that Wenger has finally winning something with his clueless tactics.
My deluded thinking:Arsenal win the league this seasom Realistic Thinking:Arsenal get 3rd or 4th this season again
I think its better to be realistic,compare to the rich loaded club of Manchester city and Chelsea,its not possible Arsenal compete for the title this season
I am hopeful that 3-5 years later,another Saudi rich ******* buy Arsenal,then maybe we could compete for the title...but 3rd or 4th is already a good position to be in as BPL is one of the top league in the world
"Perhaps those who have lost the faith need a reminder of what Wenger has brought to Arsenal since his arrival as a relative unknown, hired by vice-chairman David Dein in 1996.
Usually playing sweet football, Wenger has delivered three Premier League titles including the remarkable "Invicibles" season of 2003-04 (ask Jose Mourinho and Chelsea how hard it is to stay unbeaten). The 65-year-old Frenchman has also won the FA Cup five times, taken his team to a Champions League final in 2006 and reached the knockout stage of that competition in every one of the last 15 seasons (ask Manchester City if you think that is a formality.).
Arsenal have never finished outside the top four during Wenger's reign."
Sometimes I feel ashamed a club of this stature have to keep posting (fb posts) about wins we had against manu or chelsea that dates back to many years ago on match day
My deluded thinking:Arsenal win the league this seasom Realistic Thinking:Arsenal get 3rd or 4th this season again
I think its better to be realistic,compare to the rich loaded club of Manchester city and Chelsea,its not possible Arsenal compete for the title this season
I am hopeful that 3-5 years later,another Saudi rich ******* buy Arsenal,then maybe we could compete for the title...but 3rd or 4th is already a good position to be in as BPL is one of the top league in the world
By then AW might be sacked after a poor run of results. Wenger fans will rage.
I just hope Aw try to change his tactics for a bit and really get players this January on the position we really need. Not another atking player. That will only be a bonus.
I don't see much cameo time for Campbell and Rosicky. Are they really that bad during training? Or Aw only plannd to have have the same subs every single game.
My deluded thinking:Arsenal win the league this seasom Realistic Thinking:Arsenal get 3rd or 4th this season again
My personal opinion, 3-4 placing is very much achievable this season. Given that they have to capitalise then others drop points. Otherwise, can say bye bye to Champions League next season. Oredi lose hope of Arsenal menang liga this season.
My deluded thinking:Arsenal win the league this seasom Realistic Thinking:Arsenal get 3rd or 4th this season again
I think its better to be realistic,compare to the rich loaded club of Manchester city and Chelsea,its not possible Arsenal compete for the title this season
I am hopeful that 3-5 years later,another Saudi rich ******* buy Arsenal,then maybe we could compete for the title...but 3rd or 4th is already a good position to be in as BPL is one of the top league in the world
a group of middle-easterners have been pestering Kroenke to sell Arsenal since 2011. he is still holding on but if we finish below 4th, things might change quickly.
ade bdk bodoh ni time arsenal kalah dia masuk sini, time mengyu menang dia pun masuk sini
it is sad to see AW get the stick tho. if the players do it right on what AW tell them to do, u guys will really enjoy the game.. well, not my opinion matter pun.
I think 4th place still achievable this season lol ( really hurt that each season this is the topic we will discuss)
2 horse race gonna be chelsea and city. And whether you like it or not, man u starts to show results now ( well, after that win against us which is really mindfucuk) And i heard they got another 150m to be spend this jan, so 3rd place might be theirs.
Well, thanks to unconsistent liverpool, and hoping they also not find their form back, 4th place is open for grab. But we need to worry about west ham which really good this season (but with our current play, i think we need to worry about all teams lol).
What AW really need to do is buy defensive players this jan, tweak a bit his tactics and finding ways how to minimize the unbeliavable injuries. And also not afraid to get rid of players such as diaby and making slots for more deserving players.
What AW really need to do is buy defensive players this jan, tweak a bit his tactics and finding ways how to minimize the unbeliavable injuries. And also not afraid to get rid of players such as diaby and making slots for more deserving players.
the bolded part, i thot AW gonna give him a new contract if proven fit, no?
Pardon him. He either just woke up from a coma due to a heart break after the UCL final or didn't bother to watch any or follow Arsenal matches until last year.
I think 4th place still achievable this season lol ( really hurt that each season this is the topic we will discuss)
2 horse race gonna be chelsea and city. And whether you like it or not, man u starts to show results now ( well, after that win against us which is really mindfucuk) And i heard they got another 150m to be spend this jan, so 3rd place might be theirs.
Well, thanks to unconsistent liverpool, and hoping they also not find their form back, 4th place is open for grab. But we need to worry about west ham which really good this season (but with our current play, i think we need to worry about all teams lol).
What AW really need to do is buy defensive players this jan, tweak a bit his tactics and finding ways how to minimize the unbeliavable injuries. And also not afraid to get rid of players such as diaby and making slots for more deserving players.
Aguero is injured. Probably this would reduce their atking power and contribute more bad results for them. I dont care bout Chelsea anymore. They are at the league of their own. They had improved a little but other team had been performing poorly this season.
The third paragraph is the hardest to deal with. Its AW EGO we're facing. Diaby is lucky Ms Ego loves him. I just hope Diaby recover only after his contract expire and try his fortune elsewhere.
I think 4th place still achievable this season lol ( really hurt that each season this is the topic we will discuss)
2 horse race gonna be chelsea and city. And whether you like it or not, man u starts to show results now ( well, after that win against us which is really mindfucuk) And i heard they got another 150m to be spend this jan, so 3rd place might be theirs.
Well, thanks to unconsistent liverpool, and hoping they also not find their form back, 4th place is open for grab. But we need to worry about west ham which really good this season (but with our current play, i think we need to worry about all teams lol).
What AW really need to do is buy defensive players this jan, tweak a bit his tactics and finding ways how to minimize the unbeliavable injuries. And also not afraid to get rid of players such as diaby and making slots for more deserving players.
Not gonna be an easy fight for the 4th spot. West Ham,Arsenal,Soton,Newcastle are fighting for it..
QUOTE(cainconan @ Dec 9 2014, 10:49 AM)
whatever it is.. next BPL match against Newcastle, we have to win COYG
Have fun against Newcastle.Papiss Cisse may now haunt Arsenal after haunting Chelsea..
In an unusual move, Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has named his side to play Galatasaray in the Champions League tomorrow.
Wenger has chosen to leave a number of experienced players at home, with the Gunners having already qualified for the last 16 of the competition.
And the Frenchman has named his team, which is: Wojciech Szczesny, Mathieu Debuchy, Calum Chambers, Per Mertesacker, Hector Bellerin, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Aaron Ramsey, Mathieu Flamini, Lukas Podolski, Yaya Sanogo and Joel Campbell.
Wenger said via his club's site: "To make it as simple as possible, I have 11 experienced players and six young players on the bench. That means I have nothing to hide.
debubu.. still not impress with him but its good to have 1st choice RB back to the team..
The most brokenheart game for Arsenal is against Manchester United,Arsenal played so well for the whole game yet lose to Man Utd,although the defense were not very good that game if we had to pick a weakness but the defense still snatch back most ball that we had to get back,so really heartbreaking to not even get a point
This post has been edited by mobc1990: Dec 9 2014, 11:07 AM
debubu.. still not impress with him but its good to have 1st choice RB back to the team..
What about welbeck or giroud??we can still snatch 1st place if BVB lose,If draw this game,maybe we could face Real Madrid,Barcelona or bayern and it's probably gonna be very very tough
Well since Campbell and Podolski to start, i wish they both take this chance to prove their worth to the team. Mana tau tiba2 Costa Rican Saiyan Mode meletus.
The most brokenheart game for Arsenal is against Manchester United,Arsenal played so well for the whole game yet lose to Man Utd,although the defense were not very good that game if we had to pick a weakness but the defense still snatch back most ball that we had to get back,so really heartbreaking to not even get a point
agreed..they have defensive problem and put youngsters there but still we can't beat them..so 'attacking is the best defence' not working well with us but with them..
agreed..they have defensive problem and put youngsters there but still we can't beat them..so 'attacking is the best defence' not working well with us but with them..
The way Arsenal defended in the final 10-15 mins was so risky.Defending like that again,then a big chance of conceding a goal due to counter attack. Our young lads are ready..
Pardon him. He either just woke up from a coma due to a heart break after the UCL final or didn't bother to watch any or follow Arsenal matches until last year.
I think the original poster is talking about manu fans
Pardon him. He either just woke up from a coma due to a heart break after the UCL final or didn't bother to watch any or follow Arsenal matches until last year.
please read my post carefully, i am talking about manu not arsenal.
tonite's game already qualified, so i think no need for me to stay up.. just check the result in the morning to see whether group winner or runner up.
all the best to whoever starting tonite. good luck
Ya agree not worth watching,3am,since AFC already qualified,hope tomorrow wake up see BVB lose and arsenal win,then Arsenal would aviod top team,then had very high chance reaching quarter final
This post has been edited by mobc1990: Dec 9 2014, 01:51 PM
Now that we are slowly back to have our best eleven hopefully we can overturn 2nd half of the season with tremendous performances like we did season after season.
Now that we are slowly back to have our best eleven hopefully we can overturn 2nd half of the season with tremendous performances like we did season after season.