Both Walcott and Campbell lack of real match practice for me ...couldn't blame them much ... They don't really got enough minutes yet ...he's still a great talent for me

I really don't get the hype about Campbell. He has been ordinary every time I've seen him.

Each time we don't play well AST people will be grilling Arsene for not playing Campbell. I doubt he would've made much difference.

The hype is only from people from AST that is...

This post has been edited by sigheart: Jan 5 2015, 03:13 AM

Thanks Sanchez you can take a rest now. Soup Campbell very ambitious in atk but shooting so soft how come lar.

Those kind of weak shots is very prone to counter atks

And coq keep slide tackle with both feet still dare ask ppl to shut the xxxx up hahha

This post has been edited by Vinci777: Jan 5 2015, 03:17 AM

shiiittt,]...hope the ox is nt injured....his been really good!

Probably only the arsenal fans know about him. rest would have forgotten about him after the world cup..

Or he just isn't as good as the select few people on here think.

I certainly am not convinced he will be a starter for us in the near future. Good and decent player but chances are he will be moved on like the rest who were just like him before this.

I would give him more game time before making judgements about him. He only has like 2 or 3 appearances so far? Far too little to tell if a player is capable or at best ordinary..

Tbh, those subs that AW made previously where he brings on players like Sanogo, Maitlnand-Niles/Akpom or when he could sub Chamberlain(instead of making Chamberlain play the whole match and end up being worn out) or also when he takes Sanchez off, he usually brings on Monreal/Gibbs instead,
I would very much prefer those chances to be given to Campbell. At least let him play more games, and for a developing player, consistency is key and consistency comes with more game time.

Then at least we can finally see what Campbell's qualities are. Right now for me, I can't tell if Campbell is good or bad because I don't even see him play at all. Campbell should be given more game time. If he really is not up to standard then well, the bench is for him..

This post has been edited by LordDenning: Jan 5 2015, 03:40 AM

Sanogo and Akpom were brought on when we were chasing games. They are strikers and the position they play itself compared to Campbell is a no brainer that they bring more goal threat than Campbell.

Monreal/Gibbs/Coquelin were brought on when we were protecting one or two goal leads. Next thing we know if he goes on and brings Campbell and we concede you will be blaming Arsene for not bringing on a defender to protect the leads.

Maitland Niles? Since when was Maitland Niles preferred to Campbell? Maitland Niles came on for Ramsey at half time vs Galatasaray but Campbell played a full 90 that game. Maitland Niles came on against Newcastle in the 91st min. lol. I guess if Campbell came on he would able to impress with a couple mins left? You can say he could've brought Campbell in earlier for that game but 3-1 up until 88 mins only we scored the fourth with 3 points at stake and gamble on an unknown entity like Campbell? No thank you. I'd rather not take the risk.

Sometimes the situation in games plays a part in whether a player gets playing time or not and probably its a bit unfortunate for Campbell that we have been pretty sh*t lately thus limiting his chances of picking up game time here and there.

I have seen Campbell in the WC playing for Costa Rica and when he was playing regularly for Olympiakos in the UCL as well. Credit to him he has some well taken goals but nothing much else apart from that. Even less impressive in an Arsenal shirt. He had 90 mins against Galatasaray and he had another 90 mins today. All I see is just a decent player who is not better than any of the players around him he is fighting for a place in the first 11.

This post has been edited by sigheart: Jan 5 2015, 04:16 AM

I know the situation was called for the choices of the subs that were made. I am not criticising those subs that Wenger made btw. He's the manager, I am not.

But in some games as you mentioned, we went defensive but we still conceded. In fact I noticed this season that we became worst when we changed to a defensive set up to protect our 1 goal or so lead (because our defending has been ridiculous esp in the closing stages of the game). When we went defensive, we couldn't push up front at all, we were constantly barraged at our goal. So my thought was if we brought on Campbell, the worse that could happen would have happen any way.

and as for Sanogo, I will take Campbell any day. I just cant stand Sanogo. IF Campbell was on, I would push Alexis or some one else to be the striker.
On that note, who would you prefer? Sanogo or Campbell? hmm.

and Campbell did pretty well against Galatasaray what. But it's also true that Galatasaray was absolute rubbish, but I'm not going to take credit away from him.

What I would take note of as well is that, remember at the start of this season when Cazorla wasn't played often in the centre he was so very terrible? Many here was putting Cazorla on the chopping board. But as he played more and more with the injury to Ozil and Wilshere, he found back his form from previous seasons.
Hence which brings me to what I said earlier, I hope that Campbell gets more game time. Only when he is given the chance to play more games would I dare rate him as an Arsenal player.

This post has been edited by LordDenning: Jan 5 2015, 04:50 AM

lol thats the same as saying what is the point of installing air bags in cars because when you get into an accident that bad in the first place the worse that could happen (in this case the driver dies) would've happen anyway since air bags won't save you also from really terrible accidents.

If we are chasing games with little time left when the opponent is sitting back and packing the box I would prefer Sanogo solely because he has the height to win headers. Bringing Campbell on and shifting Sanchez as striker is definitely an option but tippy tappy and smart movement IMO will be less effective than going Route 1 with the amount of bodies in the box. Not saying it wouldn't work but most of the time it has to be eye of the needle stuff especially the passing, low crosses and through balls which is really tough.

Yeap but look at how many points has his poor finishing, mistimed passes, loose balls have cost us? I can't quite recall which game but there were a couple of his misplaced passes and lost balls in dangerous areas that cost us goals hence points. I'll need to to look back and find out which game already. Can't remember exactly which matches.

Main question here is, are you willing to sacrifice more points just for the sake of seeing whether Campbell will cut it or not in the BPL?

Don't forget Santi is a proven international and we know what he is capable of. Hence the saying form is temporary but class is permanent. The same can't be said for Campbell.

This post has been edited by sigheart: Jan 5 2015, 05:10 AM

I know. I watched the same games as you. That's why I said a lot here were too quick to call for Santi's head at that time. For me, I knew Santi would bounce back because it would take time to familiarise back playing in the centre.

My example on Santi was meant to be taken at face value. Of course comparing Campbell to Santi who is a proven class player would be absurd. Just giving an example of how a player when given more games to play helps that player's performances.

and to answer your question, right now given our current situation since we are struggling to even get 4th spot, no. But in games that we are winning comfortably I definitely would prefer Campbell to come on, which never happen so far. But heck, even Podolski doesn't even get the chance to come on when we were winning comfortably so for Campbell it would take a miracle.

but that comparison is two different things. I don't think its appropriate to use the car accident example. But I do get your point though.

Maybe something more appropriate to compare is say, going all out attacking when we are losing. We are losing already any way, so might as well go full attacking and not bothering if we are going to concede more goals because of that, since regardless if we do or don't do that, we would lose the game.
But of course what I said above there is a fine line. It depends on situations as well. If we are winning 1-0 but we are also pressuring the other team a lot (it is from this perspective that I meant to bring Campbell into the picture, there have been a few games we were in this position; mostly earlier this season, but instead a defensive player was brought on to protect that lead) VS we are winning 1-0 but the other team is pressuring us instead.

If you get what I mean? Not giving the best of examples to explain because I am quite sleepy so yeah, I hope you also get what I am trying to say.

This post has been edited by LordDenning: Jan 5 2015, 05:47 AM

There you have answered your own questions on how you cannot brain Campbell not being given more game time.

But just to clear things up I am in no way saying Campbell is a sh*t player. I quite like him TBH, looks decent, gets into good positions and has the knack of scoring some well taken goals, just that at the moment he represents a gamble which we cannot afford to fail and so far in his limited appearances, not one worth taking IMO.

Haha Poldi is another matter. A real conundrum that one which probably only Arsene himself knows the answer.

Moyes wins against Barca! WOhoo created a new record some more.

I just learned that Szczesny was fine by AW for poor behaviour after Southampton match. Huge fine I read. And he probably not gonna play again this season which I really doubt. Hahaha let's see!

This post has been edited by ahaksz28: Jan 5 2015, 05:54 AM

This guys reminds me of Pro Wenger Arsenal fans in this forum. LOL

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