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 Arsenal Street Talk - 2013/14 FA Cup Winner, ARS 2-1 WHU | S.Cazorla & D.Welbeck

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Casanova88
post Dec 8 2014, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(raizo7 @ Dec 8 2014, 02:08 PM)
And now because of some idiots, the entire fanbase became a laughing stock.
For all what he has done to the club, I can't even think what makes him deserve to get such abuses. Ffs some so called supporters, tak tau bersyukur lgsung.
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Forget about the past. It's history.

Now tell us what joy is he going to give to the club & fans in the next 1 year? Are you confident the team will win trophy this season?
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post Dec 8 2014, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(ohhisee @ Dec 8 2014, 09:52 AM)
you will regret..in the end of the season if arsenal achieve something we will forget about 'wengerout'..same thing every season..i think if wenger buy one or two good player this january 'wengerout' movement will faded quickly..hehehe
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i'm with the WengerOUT. Actually it's already been 2 years and when we actually won the FA i think that is the best time for Wenger to leave.

He needs new motivation. He have no clue what he wants to do now, let alone manage the team. His choices is poor and his tactical getting worse year by year.

Most of the match last season is won by pure luck, and I bet Welbeck will be another Bendtner without correct guidance. He seriously needs to stop shifting player from their favored position.

Our young player lacks mental strength. It was acceptable few years back, when we lack older player. But now we have a few, its time to use their experience to lead the team on the field. Not leaving the young one looking for what to do as starting eleven.

Look what Man U accomplished when Giggs and Scholes still playing. Now that their core is gone, actually this year is a good time for Arsenal to shine. With strong additional like Sanchez. But no, mr Wenger wants to keep his philosophy. I really think it's time for him to go.

All the memories and achievement is sweet. But it is time. Nothing can be accomplished if he did not change. We all know he wont change his philosophy. Keep on passing till the end of the day. Keep the scorers warming the bench.
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post Dec 8 2014, 02:39 PM

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korang hebat kan?

maka pegi lah apply kat arsenal.com jadi manyzer...

wakakakakakakaka
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post Dec 8 2014, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ Dec 8 2014, 02:19 PM)
Forget about the past. It's history.

Now tell us what joy is he going to give to the club & fans in the next 1 year? Are you confident the team will win trophy this season?
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Aiya, don't start with all these bullshit so called healthy discussion please. Every season you predicted we will end up out of top 4 or relegated.

FA Cup last season? I bet you didn't saw that coming.

Stay out of it and enjoy your only prediction once a week. TBH, I'm starting to enjoy your prediction when you say Arsenal is going to lose. Keep up the good job.
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post Dec 8 2014, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(CeDhhVss @ Dec 8 2014, 02:39 PM)
korang hebat kan?

maka pegi lah apply kat arsenal.com jadi manyzer...

wakakakakakakaka
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post Dec 8 2014, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(maraippo @ Dec 8 2014, 02:32 PM)
i'm with the WengerOUT. Actually it's already been 2 years and when we actually won the FA i think that is the best time for Wenger to leave.

He needs new motivation. He have no clue what he wants to do now, let alone manage the team. His choices is poor and his tactical getting worse year by year.

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agreed..his selection of players really bad..the result show everything but he still use same formation and tactics..wenger can blame injuries but its like every season arsenal have this problem..
flamini got fouled and we get penalty but i don't like our CM(wenger said he don't need DM) spend much time in D section..so i think we have very bad midfield this season that can't create a chances and can't stop the opponent attack.


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post Dec 8 2014, 03:50 PM

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someone should make a poll somewhere;

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post Dec 8 2014, 04:03 PM

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i'm choose A..huhuhu
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post Dec 8 2014, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(Casanova88 @ Dec 8 2014, 02:19 PM)
Forget about the past. It's history.

Now tell us what joy is he going to give to the club & fans in the next 1 year? Are you confident the team will win trophy this season?
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What?! How about our FA Cup success just 7 months ago? Is that considered as a history already?
You must have a very short-term memory then.

QUOTE(maraippo @ Dec 8 2014, 02:32 PM)
i'm with the WengerOUT. Actually it's already been 2 years and when we actually won the FA i think that is the best time for Wenger to leave.

He needs new motivation. He have no clue what he wants to do now, let alone manage the team. His choices is poor and his tactical getting worse year by year.

Most of the match last season is won by pure luck, and I bet Welbeck will be another Bendtner without correct guidance. He seriously needs to stop shifting player from their favored position.

Our young player lacks mental strength. It was acceptable few years back, when we lack older player. But now we have a few, its time to use their experience to lead the team on the field. Not leaving the young one looking for what to do as starting eleven.

Look what Man U accomplished when Giggs and Scholes still playing. Now that their core is gone, actually this year is a good time for Arsenal to shine. With strong additional like Sanchez. But no, mr Wenger wants to keep his philosophy. I really think it's time for him to go.

All the memories and achievement is sweet. But it is time. Nothing can be accomplished if he did not change. We all know he wont change his philosophy. Keep on passing till the end of the day. Keep the scorers warming the bench.
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This is what's wrong with fans nowadays.
Every win for them is a fluke, a pure luck. While every lost is a crisis. Getting really tired of this.

Winning the FA cup should be seen as a stepping stone for the club. Not as an ideal time for the manager to fcuk off.
I don't want him to leave just after our club about to enter a new era. An era where we finally have the financial power to compete with the big boys.

Don't you think the man who responsible for putting our club to where it is today, deserves a chance to spend the money, to build his team?
The first year where he actually got money to burn, he brought us Ozil. And in that year we eventually ended our trophy drought.
And this season, we have Sanchez. And we already see his class.

Even Casa's beloved manager, Mourinho, also said that he need 2 year to build a team that is capable to win the BPL.
And that for a club with unlimited fund, mind you.

I'm not saying Wenger is untouchable, as some of his actions are questionable and merit a critic.
But what I'm trying to say is why don't we give him a chance. Let him honor his contract. Let him spend the money to get the players he wants.
The day of wanting Hazard but getting Gervinho, waiting a year just to get Chamakh for a free, and playing Silvestre as CB, has past.

And I have problem to comprehend your last 2 points - about Scholes and Giggs, and about the scorer on the bench.
If you have time, please elaborate.

QUOTE(IsoZ @ Dec 8 2014, 02:44 PM)
Aiya, don't start with all these bullshit so called healthy discussion please. Every season you predicted we will end up out of top 4 or relegated.

FA Cup last season? I bet you didn't saw that coming.

Stay out of it and enjoy your only prediction once a week. TBH, I'm starting to enjoy your prediction when you say Arsenal is going to lose. Keep up the good job.
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For most of them, that FA cup win is never happen.
Or maybe they're just to arrogant to admit that Wenger has finally winning something with his clueless tactics.



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post Dec 8 2014, 04:41 PM

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Oh la la ~

It's that time of the year again.
Where all the long posts flooding the thread...


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post Dec 8 2014, 04:43 PM

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Haish.. my Arsenal FM team pun start losing.. burnley pun kalah
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post Dec 8 2014, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(IsoZ @ Dec 8 2014, 02:44 PM)
Aiya, don't start with all these bullshit so called healthy discussion please. Every season you predicted we will end up out of top 4 or relegated.

FA Cup last season? I bet you didn't saw that coming.

Stay out of it and enjoy your only prediction once a week. TBH, I'm starting to enjoy your prediction when you say Arsenal is going to lose. Keep up the good job.
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Fans are celebrating for the wrong things:

- 4th place
- Consecutive qualification for CL
- Balanced books
- Beating Spurs
- Qualifying always for the round of 16

Now while those records are good to have it cant mask the fact that the club has failed to progress past the above checkpoints for years now. Now now, I know Arsenal won the FA cup last season, but i see that as a one off. If one can remember, Arsenal struggled to even see off an opponent that hardly scream top opponent in that cup final. Fans should always remember. You support the club and want whats best for the club and not a certain individual. 10 years ago Arsene was good for Arsenal now unfortunately he is not. Yes, football is a cruel business. The fact that he is given so so so many years to change his ways, learn from his mistakes is already a reward for his past glories. Fans have already shown alot of gratitude and appreciation for him by always sticking by his side during those dark years. But in everything, there is a limit. Just like a rose, no matter how red it is.. it will fade away one day and sadly to say the same can be said of Wenger now.

Hold on, just because a few losses and you people are turning against Wenger? Well, its not a few losses. Its who you lost to and how you lost and this has been happening not just for a few weeks or months but for years already. After losses were there improvements or changes or mistakes being corrected? Well, not exactly. An odd one or two win against Dortmund or Villa for all that matter does not count. You need continuity and consistency and not just the odd one or two games where the team performed and then its back to the same old nonsense.

Fans should always remember, you support Arsenal and not Arsene Wenger. You want whats best for the club and Arsene unfortunately is no longer good for Arsenal. Changing a new manager will not improve the situation or might make things worse some say? Well, you never change you never know. Changing to a new manager the club at least stand some chance to move forward. With Arsene still around, there will be zero chance. You do the math. sweat.gif

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post Dec 8 2014, 04:58 PM

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older player can guide player la bro. see scholes n giggs last time still playing, the man u player can play as a team although they all are just decent players.

we on the other hand, all seniors have left. leaving rosicky and flamini. wenger should just blend flamini, rosicky and podolski in the mix to build up the creativity and push forward.

the teams also full of passers instead of scorers. the more the better. in the past, our midfield is full of creative players. center, left and right.

nowadays we only have cazorla, rosicky and ozil who always play out of their favored position becos wenger told them to. we have player who are natural at left and right, but wenger chose to experiment with his players because he is a "professor" and he is a "genius".

Its ok when in the past he plays using kids, and experimenting is good for their development. but playing with established players, it is plug n play. Play them where they play best. not switching them around.

and you talking about chances...we are the most patience fan among others. We understand the situation when the club have no money. But when we do and wenger don't want to spend, it really frustrating. Some of fan favourite went to other club for cheap.

if only wenger accepted fabregas just like he is willing to accept flamini, half of current arsenal problem might've been solved. he is proven, experienced, and just like flamini - plug n play. he'll suite right in.
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post Dec 8 2014, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(theprobe @ Dec 8 2014, 04:47 PM)
Fans are celebrating for the wrong things:

- 4th place
- Consecutive qualification for CL
- Balanced books
- Beating Spurs
- Qualifying always for the round of 16

Now while those records are good to have it cant mask the fact that the club has failed to progress past the above checkpoints for years now. Now now, I know Arsenal won the FA cup last season, but i see that as a one off. If one can remember, Arsenal struggled to even see off an opponent that hardly scream top opponent in that cup final. Fans should always remember. You support the club and want whats best for the club and not a certain individual. 10 years ago Arsene was good for Arsenal now unfortunately he is not. Yes, football is a cruel business. The fact that he is given so so so many years to change his ways, learn from his mistakes is already a reward for his past glories. Fans have already shown alot of gratitude and appreciation for him by always sticking by his side during those dark years. But in everything, there is a limit. Just like a rose, no matter how red it is.. it will fade away one day and sadly to say the same can be said of Wenger now. 

Hold on, just because a few losses and you people are turning against Wenger? Well, its not a few losses. Its who you lost to and how you lost and this has been happening not just for a few weeks or months but for years already. After losses were there improvements or changes or mistakes being corrected? Well, not exactly. An odd one or two win against Dortmund or Villa for all that matter does not count. You need continuity and consistency and not just the odd one or two games where the team performed and then its back to the same old nonsense.

Fans should always remember, you support Arsenal and not Arsene Wenger. You want whats best for the club and Arsene unfortunately is no longer good for Arsenal. Changing a new manager will not improve the situation or might make things worse some say? Well, you never change you never know. Changing to a new manager the club at least stand some chance to move forward. With Arsene still around, there will be zero chance. You do the math.  sweat.gif
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I'll just leave this here. I wouldn't be able to say it better myself. Hats off to you.
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2 Plug and play players that could solve most of our problems right now. Song and Cesc.

Oh well... nevertheless both are doing well at Chelsea and WestHam.
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Waaaaa.

All become Champion Manager already. Giving all the good points and saying this to someone that really have done wonders for the club.

My advice, just hold it all in till the end of the season. Then when we are still shitty or worse come the end of the season, vent everything out. There can only be 1 champion every year people! Everyone acting like they own the club. Jersey Ori pon x sure beli ke tak.

I am in the WengerIn camp. For him to just build the team(and club mind you) and his legacy and leave it after it starts to reap benefits? Who in their right mind will do that!

And to those moaning and b****ing about him not buying ex players, just move on already! It has been half a season already!

And quoting Raizo7

Oh la la ~

It's that time of the year again.
Where all the long posts flooding the thread...

TSrifasha
post Dec 8 2014, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(syafri88 @ Dec 8 2014, 06:17 PM)
Waaaaa.

All become Champion Manager already. Giving all the good points and saying this to someone that really have done wonders for the club.

My advice, just hold it all in till the end of the season. Then when we are still shitty or worse come the end of the season, vent everything out. There can only be 1 champion every year people! Everyone acting like they own the club. Jersey Ori pon x sure beli ke tak.

I am in the WengerIn camp. For him to just build the team(and club mind you) and his legacy and leave it after it starts to reap benefits? Who in their right mind will do that!

And to those moaning and b****ing about him not buying ex players, just move on already! It has been half a season already!

And quoting Raizo7

Oh la la ~

It's that time of the year again.
Where all the long posts flooding the thread...
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yeah! flex.gif
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post Dec 8 2014, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(raizo7 @ Dec 8 2014, 04:41 PM)
Oh la la ~

It's that time of the year again.
Where all the long posts flooding the thread...
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Ya Lo ya lo... Long posts are back again.. Scary!

You know shxt happen will you see long post.
TSrifasha
post Dec 8 2014, 06:56 PM

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Relax, later is FA Cup draw.
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QUOTE(rifasha @ Dec 8 2014, 06:56 PM)
Relax, later is FA Cup draw.
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i want chelsea, mu or stoke against arsenal. everyone knows wht the outcome will be.

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